<p>Being rich does not make you an elitist. Being condescending however, make you an elitist. </p>
<p>Thinking that you know better than the other group, and you can tell them what is good for them, and try to explain their way of life make you an elitist.</p>
<p>“made much less lucrative career choices,”</p>
<p>I believe he has started cashing in on his career choices now. The last time I checked his books are doing quite well.</p>
<p>Millionaire McCain and Cattle Trade Clinton are calling Obama an elitist. </p>
<p>This will blow over in like 24 hours and the only thing that will remain is Sean Hannity and Bill Clinton in the echo-chamber.</p>
<p>tega, Obama’s net worth is quite a bit less than the 5 million that Hillary loaned her own campaign (1.3 million, and much of that was from the sale of his book, The Audacity of Hope). He’s got a loooooong way to go before he even comes close to the Clinton’s kind of money. I bet there are more than a few posters here on CC who are worth more than the Obamas… Elitist my ***:rolleyes:</p>
<p>"Being rich does not make you an elitist. Being condescending however, make you an elitist. "</p>
<p>well said.</p>
<p>^ Very well said.</p>
<p>when in doubt throw some absurd quotation.</p>
<p>As a Pennsylvania resident I think it is kind of odd that people seem to think this entire state is depressed and in economic turmoil. Where I live I see a lot of corporate headquarters and businesses thriving, not a lot of industry dying and unemployment. It is a big state with a lot of different economic realities- what I have found disturbing is Obama’s repeated mistakes of making generalizations that can be offensive or just completely wrong.
I really didn’t like his comment about his grandmother being a “typical white person” as I don’t share her beliefs and I don’t believe that there are “typical” persons of any particular ethnic, geographic, economic, etc background. I am concerned with the way he seems to group people and how that could affect his ability to lead our country.
And just for the record I was very open to learning about him and perhaps voting for him before some of his recent comments - I am still listening but concerned.</p>
<p>Oh, now Obama is Superior? In what sense?</p>
<p>He might be superior Obama than his followers but he is definitely not superior than a lot of people in this country. </p>
<p>It is so funny that Obama is attacking someone’s record, given all his present votes on the tough issues in the Illinois state legislature, he should be the last person criticizing someone else’s record.</p>
<p>He is just like all the politicians he is chastising for promising so much but delivering so little. South side Chicago is still waiting on those promises he talked about when he was running for the state senate. Crime is still very high, schools are still bad, murder rate is still very high, people still live in dilapidated apartments controlled by his slumlord friend Rezko. Most of them wish they live in that nice house that the Obamas’ live, and they can go to that fine school that the Obama kids attend </p>
<p>His lack of oversight exacerbated the problems that this community already had. He was getting sweet heart deals from you buddy Rezko to help finance his ambitions to even worry about the common folks in south side Chicago. </p>
<p>What is his major accomplishment in the Senate? How many of his bi-partisan bills turned into laws? How many of the senators on the republican side did he bring together? How exactly is he going to bring people together given that he has voted more along party lines with his Ultra liberal friends Patrick Leahy, Ted Kennedy, and flip flopper John kerry. </p>
<p>Is this superior for you? </p>
<p>I feel the democratic party is being hijacked by the left wingers, the same way the neo-cons have hijack the republican party</p>
<p>Exactly right, Tega.
And I just heard something yesterday about how Obama CHANGED his vote numerous times in the Illinois Senate (or maybe it was U.S. Senate, I’m not sure). Anyway, it was purely political maneuvering to avoid having an unpopular record on certain hot-button issues. The guy is shrewd.</p>
<p>Add that to all of his “present” votes & anyone should be able to see what a farce his candidacy is.</p>
<p>I think he’s only gotten this far b/c half the democrats don’t like Hillary.</p>
<p>Just yesterday, I came across his campaign info for the primary in our state. I had saved it. The big slogan is, “Reaching for What is Possible”. It goes on to say, “A nation healed. A world reapired. An America that believes again”.</p>
<p>Snake Oil.</p>
<p>“I think he’s only gotten this far b/c half the democrats don’t like Hillary.”</p>
<p>I was going to post this very thing. My own unscientific research (i.e., conversation) tells me that there is a portion of the democratic electorate that just was not going to vote for Hillary and still won’t.</p>
<p>The battle in Pennsylvania is not a fight to get Senator Obama’s supporters to switch to Senator Clinton, or vice versa, it is a fight for the twelve (12%) percent of undecided registered Democratic voters.</p>
<p>Hillary leads by 20 in PA.</p>
<p>10% of democratic voters will never vote for Hillary.</p>
<p><a href=“http://americanresearchgroup.com/[/url]”>http://americanresearchgroup.com/</a></p>
<p>bz2010, "“A nation healed. A world reapired. An America that believes again”</p>
<p>I guess some of the people that he used to represent in south side Chicago could use a slice of that healing. They have lost the belief in the American dream and are frustrated with politicians that will say anything to get their votes but don’t deliver on those promises. The sad thing is that, most of these politicians are black.</p>
<p>I am worried about the low graduation rate of minorities in this country, the high HIV rate among minorities, bad housing options and schools available to minorities, poor people in appalachia with very limited options, etc.</p>
<p>We are slowly killing a lot of these people, and they will eventually be a burden on the state.</p>
<p>The most important thing we should be discussing is who has the best solutions for the things that we are worried about.</p>
<p>The level of public discourse has sunk so low, I don’t think I will ever trust the press again ( PBS is the only exception)</p>
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<p>If some could just quiet their blind hatred for 3 seconds, they should at least go and understand how t he Illinois State Senate works. Present votes are used as a procedural tactic for negotiation on the revision of bills.</p>
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<p>[Examining</a> Obama’s ‘Present’ Votes in Illinois : NPR](<a href=“Examining Obama's 'Present' Votes in Illinois : NPR”>Examining Obama's 'Present' Votes in Illinois : NPR)</p>
<p>Who knows, maybe Clinton will now attack Obama for supporting a woman’'s r ight to choose. She’s already started pretending to be Annie Oakley.</p>
<p>Oh yes I have examined his presents votes, you are picking and choosing the present vote that supports your cause. </p>
<p>Search on the chicago sun times and get a clear picture of his voting record. he was just playing the usual chicago politics.</p>
<p>Aren’t you from Chicago? The Sun-Times is tabloid sensationalism.</p>
<p>“This is what I have been talking about. People who think that they know better than the other group, and they feel the need to tell them what is better for them. I think they know what is good for them, and they don’t need anyone telling them what is good for them…Thinking that you know better than the other group, and you can tell them what is good for them, and try to explain their way of life make you an elitist.”</p>
<p>This from the same poster who had this to say about the blacks on the South Side of Chicago:</p>
<p>“This is why some black people are so behind in a lot of things. They listen to these people who are bitter with their life. Some blame the government for everything wrong with them, never willing to take any personal responsibility. Always bitter about every thing. Please get some help if you are bitter. Bitterness wont solve anything.”</p>
<p>How come it’s insulting for people to say that working-class whites don’t know what’s good for them, but it’s perfectly OK for you to take the exact same elitist attitude toward poor blacks?</p>
<p>"Obama was a state senator in Illinois representing south side Chicago, this area is on the top list of places that need a lot of fixing. The area has one of the highest crime rate, murder rate, poverty rate etc in the entire country…I think the people living in south side Chicago will really need someone watching out for their best interest given their economic situation. "</p>
<p>Yet another example of your hypocrisy. What’s the source of your expertise on the South Side and how to “fix” it? Both sides of my family have been living in Obama’s state senate district for 75+ years. People here love him, and we are very satisfied with how he has served us. Practice what you preach and don’t presume to lecture us about our own home. We’ve already chosen our elected representatives without any help from you.</p>
<p>Here’s an interesting tidbit from Simba’s American Research Group cite above:</p>
<p>“23% of likely Democratic primary voters say that excessive exposure to Obama’s advertising is causing them to support Clinton.”</p>
<p>This is from the Pa stats part of the cite. I think this is kind of hilarious as Obama tends to outspend Hillary like 5 to 1 most places.</p>
<p>Mercymom - that’s hardly surprising. Pretty much every post here on CC from the Clinton and McCain backers pushes me further into the Obama camp, and makes me more concerned about the other’s ability to lead the country.</p>
<p>Hilarious?</p>
<p>No, Kluge, only to be expected.</p>