<p>Can’t one pick one’s husband? Or divorce him?</p>
<p><a href=“%5Burl=http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1060213380-post152.html]#152[/url]”>quote</a> Didn’t it bother anybody that Hilary claimed that raising the payroll taxes would hurt the teachers and firefighters in PA? If that’s true I want to be a teacher in Pennsylvania. Payroll taxes, at least the social security portion, stop at $97,00 this year and are rising every year. I realise she’s not an accountant but, she should at least have a clue how the system works before she criticizes the other candidate.
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<p>Many teachers often work summers and firefighters work overtime which can put them over the $97K limits.</p>
<p>Increasing the payroll tax will continue to prop-up the biggest pyramid scheme in history. Via a [Rand</a> Corporation study](<a href=“http://rand.org/publications/randreview/issues/RRR.winter95.6.aging/ss_reform.html]Rand”>http://rand.org/publications/randreview/issues/RRR.winter95.6.aging/ss_reform.html):</p>
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<p>Considering that Social Security benefits can also be [taxed</a> based on your income level](<a href=“http://taxes.about.com/b/2005/02/23/taxing-social-security-benefits.htm]taxed”>Taxes), raising payroll taxes doubles the impact on high income earners…they pay more, get less out of it and then are taxed for the privilege of getting proportionately less benefits.</p>
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<p>That’s going to leave a mark! :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Well, we don’t live in Afghanistan or Pakistan where we can be married off at 12 to men old enough to be our grandfathers. Does Hillary claim that 1. she did not pick Bill or 2. he’s not “family?” :(</p>
<p>It’s all noise. Clinton will pick up a total of 3 delegates more than Obama in PA, maybe even fewer if the Philly suburb turnout is high. She’ll lose by 10 delegates or more in North Carolina. She’ll lose by one or two in Indiana, even if she wins the popular vote there. She’ll lose in South Dakota. She’ll lose in Oregon.</p>
<p>Folks, it really IS over.</p>
<p>^ Guys, it’s a little easier going to a different church after your pastor spouts something you don’t agree with than trying to divorce yourself over something your husband did/said.</p>
<p>If you are going to a church where you agree with everything the pastor says, chances are he isn’t doing his job. (or you are sleeping alot ;))</p>
<p>So did anyone pick up that Obama got the ss tax income celling wrong? It’s 102,000 for 2008, not 97,000. And no, I don’t see how it would hurt your “average folks” to raise or eliminate the ceiling. That’s a bit of a stretch.
Thought Charlie and George were horrible. Focusing on ticky-tack things designed to divide the candidates. I couldn’t believe the flag pin on the lapel question. So does Hillary wear one? Insulting really…</p>
<p>I heard some of those speeches were given by the Rev. on Christmas and the Sunday after 9/11…kind of big days for missing church if you ask me.</p>
<p>I tuned in to the debate but switched it off in disgust after 45 minutes. I can’t believe it, they spent 45 minutes going on and on and on about these stupid manufactured “controversies”, whether they were about the flag pin, or the Bosnia lie. Thanks a lot, Charlie and George, for asking the really important questions up front. It’s not like the country is at war, or the planet is in jeopardy from climate change, or the economy is plunging, or health care costs are skyrocketing, or social security and medicare are in trouble or that we have a budget deficit. Nope, the people really need to know one more time whether there really were snipers in Bosnia or exactly which sermons of his pastor Obama had been aware of. </p>
<p>Peter Jennings (RIP) would have asked more meaningful questions, I think.</p>
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<p>Ouch! Good advice for someone (me) who really needs to be doing some church shopping.</p>
<p>As far as missing church on Sundays - when our kids were little, we were never in our home church for the holidays; we were always traveling to be with family, and attended their church.</p>
<p>the something her husband did occurred multiple times pretty much during the same span of time Obama attended Trinity Church. Is divorce not being that easy the only impediment to walking out on a louse? I thought that was in Victorian times, when many women could not pick whom they married, either.</p>
<p>Don’t forget about the lapel pin, vicariousparent. I almost turned it off when that question made it into a national debate.</p>
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<p>You listen to Rush Limbaugh? Holy Cow, that explains a of your political comments and observations…:rolleyes: Have you experienced the thrill of calling in and saying, “Ditto, Rush!” yet?</p>
<p>Poetsheart,
I believe the expected greeting to the Rush Limbaugh show is:
“Major ditto’s Rush!”</p>
<p>If you call in to the Sean Hannity show it’s common to greet him with:
“You’re a great American Sean!”</p>
<p>Actually poet, I only started tuning in a few days ago to see how he was handling this. If you must know, I’ve been listening to News and Notes on NPR for the last 45 minutes.</p>
<p>I listen to NPR, watch PBS, donate money to both our local affiliates, subscribe to The New Yorker and Newsweek. Plus I’m for gun control. My eldest D’s best friend is a black girl from Tanzania. Anything else you want to know? Oh yeah, I’m for gay marriage. But I’m also pro life. Gee, I must be a terrible person.</p>
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<p>I believe that Hillary stayed with her husband for personal political gain. Her association with her husband has not really damaged her in Democrat eyes since a lot of Democrats look upon the Clinton Administration years with great fondness.</p>
<p>Obama’s association, on the other hand, calls into question his character judgement and political beliefs. Due to Obama’s comparatively lighter political record, this association is being judged more harshly.</p>
<p>Another thing, poet, not that it’s really any of your business, but my other D just changed her voter registration to Democrat and is voting for Obama in the Pa primary. She has also spent the last two years working with a volunteer organization that helps Somali refugees in Pittsburgh. I’m sorry you had a bad experience in college, really I am, but that’s no reason to jump to conclusions about people who don’t like your political candidate.</p>
<p>Toneranger: but it was 97,000 for 2007. And we know what Clinton was insinuating: That Obama wanting to raise the cap on Social Security would hurt the working class. </p>
<p>—Guys, it’s a little easier going to a different church after your pastor spouts something you don’t agree with than trying to divorce yourself over something your husband did/said.—</p>
<p>Something your husband did/said? That’s an understatement. Why bother staying married to a man who obviously doesn’t believe in marriage?</p>
<p>I have been married for 31 years. It hasn’t always been easy and I firmly believe in marriage. But that’s because I’m married to a man who has the same beliefs. Should he be unfaithful, that would say to me that he isn’t the man I thought he was. It would be over. I can, however, listen to a pastor whose beliefs are different because I don’t have to live with him.</p>
<p>I just read a news item with the following quote from Obama this afternoon:</p>
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<p>Disclaimer: My previous post #170 was not plagiarized from his statement. I am assuming he (or his speechwriter) didn’t plagiarize my post either!</p>