<p>now she says she is going to use student loans to support her children, once she goes back to school in the fall …WHAT ???</p>
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<p>She can take out loans UP TO the cost of attendance at her school. If she uses the money for something OTHER than school, how will she pay her school bills? The cost of attendance is computed for ONE person, not 15.</p>
<p>Has anyone figured out what kind of health insurance she has and who is paying for it?</p>
<p>I believe that it is Kaiser and I think that is an HMO. Don’t know who is paying for it.</p>
<p>The state of California released the information that she does, in fact, receive food stamps and that three of the older children receive disability services.</p>
<p>bookworm, If you go to this site, and click on “About Dr. Kamrava,” you will see his bio:</p>
<p>[url=<a href=“http://www.wcivf.com/]WCIVF.COM[/url”>http://www.wcivf.com/]WCIVF.COM[/url</a>]</p>
<p>Very puffed-up. He even implies that he had something to do with the pump device - I’m sure that if you look up the patent, he is not on it.</p>
<p>I would bet that he gets mostly cases that no one else will take. Most patients these days are sophisticated enough to know how to check out a clinic. He probably takes all comers, and deals in false hope. When I was at the Jones Institute, the doctors were very frank, sometimes brutally frank, with patients. I remember one woman sobbing in the waiting room because she had been told that she had almost no chance of having a baby. The doctors there were extremely compassionate, but they felt that they were offering very expensive and invasive tecniques and they did not want to give anyone false hope. I suspect that Kamrava takes anyone who walks in the door with checkbook in hand.</p>
<p>Has there been anything else said about Suleman having financed her treatments by egg donation?</p>
<p>The doctor is clearly guilty of malpractice. Doctors in fields like reproductive medicine and plastic surgery are obligated to consider the mental status of their patients who are having non-essential medical care. How anyone could possibly justify fertility treatment for a young, single woman who has 6 children is beyond me.</p>
<p>I suspect that she lied to him about her marital status at the beginning. The “friend” who provided the sperm probably posed as her husband, at her request. </p>
<p>I think the malpractice came in with the transfer of at least 6 embryos. Deliberately creating a high-order multiple pregnancy is a real crime.</p>
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<p>I agree. Again, on her interview with Ann Curry, her facial expressions say something, just don’t know what they mean exactly, when she is asked about whether the doctor knew about her 6 kids, etc.</p>
<p>I like that his web site has not been updated since July 2004; I guess he has nothing to update!</p>
<p>I have a friend at BI in OB; I hope he can shed some light on this guy.</p>
<p>Last night on one of the news stations, I caught a blip of the grandma saying a few words. She’s obviously against the actions of her daughter, but feels that she needs to be there for the kids because the mom can’t do it. Unless I misunderstood her, she also mentioned that her daughter went back to her first doctor to have the eggs implanted but he refused so she went to another doctor. Did I hear this wrong because it doesn’t seem to be what the daughter is saying?</p>
<p>The news also mentioned that the grandma didn’t have any idea that the mom won a $165,000 settlement. She said that her daughter has not contributed to any of the living expenses for these kids–meaning the grandparents and the state have been feeding and sheltering them. Grandma said that the daughter seems to be more interested in things that show appearance or give an impression such as toys in the backyard. </p>
<p>The clip also mentioned that 3 of the first 6 have disabilities and she collects SS benefits for them. The grandma (retired school teacher) was running around like crazy trying to care for the kids. What the heck is going to happen when the other 8 babies come home?</p>
<p>nysmile do you think that the hospital will release these 8 babies to the mother? What kind of an environment does it take before a social services says, “can’t do”? I mean, 14 kids all under age 8, and several with known disabilities that require special care (I guess that is what the SSI is for).</p>
<p>I hope they don’t release the babies to her, but I don’t know what the law is regarding this situation. Unless they can prove abuse or neglect of the first 6 kids, how can they refuse to release the babies to her? Common sense says not to release them but what is the law?</p>
<p>I think that one ought to attempt to keep an open mind and take into account the possibility that the grandmother has issues also. It is certainly possible that both mother and daughter are embroidering the truth. In the D’s case, it seems certain, since we have definite evidence of her wackiness.</p>
<p>On the welfare thing, a lot of people think that there is a single payer called “welfare” that some other people get, not realizing that it is a cluster of programs that includes Food Stamps, WIC (she ought to be qualify for that!), AFDC (I believe) and other things.</p>
<p>Even if they release the babies to her, I bet social services will be involved in certain capacities including oversight of the situation.</p>
<p>Here is a local article that list the names of all her kids as well as some information from a previous interview from 2006.</p>
<p>[Octuplets</a>’ Mom Receiving Public Assistance](<a href=“404 - Page Not Found | KTLA”>404 - Page Not Found | KTLA)</p>
<p>I find it interesting that she gave the babies her boyfriends last name, but he wasn’t good enough to marry!</p>
<p>“Has anyone figured out what kind of health insurance she has and who is paying for it?”
She doesnt have insurance. Apparently Kaiser has applied for funds from the State of California (for the use of impoverished children)
She has money for nannies, IVF, lip injections,college, you name it—but not enough for insurance or food (she gets food stamps)</p>
<p>I just saw on Fox some Dr. who works for the state senator, and it wouldn’t surprise me that DYFS has been contacted. They are very upset to know that 3 of her 6 have medical issues, and she opted to have more. It will be ironic if this women had all of these kids for her need of a family lands up having none left to raise.</p>
<p>WHo wants to start placing odds by tomorrow the news will be the publicist she has hired has decided not to represent her anymore…they’ll probably say something like ethically we can no longer represent her since she lied to us about her life.</p>
<p>Other bet…by Friday the state of California will announce that DYFS is investigating whether to remove the children she has. Even if she gets a lucrative deal where she can financially afford to move and raise them, I hope they still remove the children, because she has never put those kids 1st…didn’t she say she will stop her life for them. Gee, I guess we can see that was true…NOT</p>
<p>I also wonder if 3 of the 6 have been diagnosed with medical issues, I wonder if the last 3 haven’t been yet, but might be in the process. 3 are under 3, it is not easy to diagnose ADD or autism at that young of age.</p>
<p>That old cliche becareful what you wish for is screaming in my head right now!</p>
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<p>She may have insurance, but the kids may not. That’s why Kaiser is only asking for government help with kids’ medical costs.</p>
<p>Dear Octuplets:</p>
<pre><code> Welcome! Grow up healthy and get jobs, help us pay for this stimulus plan!
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