Octuplets' mom already has 6 young kids at home.

<p>This story just gets more and more bizarre. Yikes. I feel for the older kids if they get to read or see any of this in the news. </p>

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<p>Should she accept the offer, this surely would keep DCFS on her tail!</p>

<p>Let alone…how would she even have the time???</p>

<p>I wonder if they are offering to pay for all the plastic surgery that would be necessary to return her body to an even somewhat normal state after carrying 8 babies! Uggghhhhh</p>

<p>A video from Yahoo. The Yahoo title is “Hospital may keep octuplets if mother can’t care for them”, but I do not have the sound on my computer, so I can’t summarize what it says:</p>

<p><a href=“http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=12210985&ch=4226713&src=news[/url]”>http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=12210985&ch=4226713&src=news&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Nadya’s on Dr. Phil right now. (At least, right now in my local market.)</p>

<p>I don’t like Dr. Phil, but he’s really nailing her to the wall with his questions. So far (in the three minutes I’ve seen), he hasn’t let her talk her way around anything.</p>

<p>And boy, does she talk – a lot.</p>

<p>I don’t usually watch TV. What network is Dr. Phil on? I don’t see it listed here.</p>

<p>Never mind…I just saw it listed at 5 PM here on CBS. I may just waste more time today! :)</p>

<p>Veryhappy, it’s been over 40 minutes since the last update from you!</p>

<p>Oh, honestly! Everyone has figured out how to get themselves a lot of free publicity. Just make Octomom an offer that she will refuse.</p>

<p>First a psychiatrist, then Gloria Allred, now a porn producer. Who’s next!</p>

<p>Ellemenope…that’s funny! Well, I can assure you that I am not next in line!</p>

<p>Though…I suppose I can offer her college admissions advice? Um…no, her family alone would fill my roster.</p>

<p>Well, I do believe he asked her the hard questions. As usual, she smiled, danced, and spoke over him very quickly, so it didn’t feel as if she was really listening or taking it seriously.</p>

<p>He did ask a good question: He pointed out that the babies were born at 30 weeks and that she thought during her pregnancy that there were seven of them. So why wasn’t she making plans during her pregnancy to care for a total of 13 children? </p>

<p>She didn’t really have an answer.</p>

<p>I did appreciate Dr. Phil talking to the audience and giving his opinion of how she doesnt’ show that she gets it. While I don’t care for Dr. Phil because he’s very superficial and arm-chair-ish (how can you really assess someone’s mental state during the time they are on your TV show?), I think in this case he points out to the audience where Nadya’s being unrealistic.</p>

<p>Anyone else’s opinion, please?</p>

<p>Good Lord–I could barely handle one! And he was an easy , no special needs kid. The mind-set here is to be proud of being able to handle the impossible. I’d rather handle the possible, but that’s just me.</p>

<p>BunsenBurner, in that video clip, it talks about Nadya threatening to sue the hospital if they don’t let her take the babies home. </p>

<p>I think even if one puts aside whether Nadya is a fit mother or not, it would be incredibly difficult for ANY parent to have to care for and provide for 14 kids where 8 were all preemies at one time and where all 14 are under age 7 and where several have special needs. Under the very very best circumstances, this would not be easily handled. So, it isn’t even just about Nadya. To release the kids, social services would want to know that here was space for the kids, adequate money and resources, and adults who could tend to them (one adult could never do all this). This is without adding on that Nadya appears to have some emotional or mental issues.</p>

<p>Only the long arm of the law would be able to keep her from taking those kids home from the hospital. After all, you can pull all the IVs out of your arm and walk out of the hospital against doctor’s advice. </p>

<p>Time for the law to get involved…</p>

<p>soozie, thanks. Here is the article from the Seattle Times talking about the hospital vs. Octomom:</p>

<p><a href=“http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2008783741_apoctupletsdrphil.html[/url]”>http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2008783741_apoctupletsdrphil.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Re # 972: “Only the long arm of the law would be able to keep her from taking those kids home from the hospital. After all, you can pull all the IVs out of your arm and walk out of the hospital against doctor’s advice.” </p>

<p>How in the world could she gather them all into her two arms and carry them out? The real purpose of her filing suit would probably be to force the state to support her and them. Train wreck!</p>

<p>What I’m waiting to see is, how do they do this, i.e., they will not all come home at once. I can’t imagine someone stepping in and saying she can’t bring the first one home, or the second one home, so it’s as if those babies who are the last to come home, will be the straw that breaks the camel’s back. At that point, will the ones that came home first be allowed to stay?</p>

<p>" I can’t imagine someone stepping in and saying she can’t bring the first one home, or the second one home, "</p>

<p>I can imagine someone saying she can’t bring any of those kids home. There already are 6 kids – 3 of whom are special needs – living in a 3-bedroom house that has only 2 adults as caretakers (Nadya and her 69-year-old mom). It may not be possible for Nadya to take care of another special needs child there.</p>

<p>Here’s my guess as to what will happen:</p>

<p>Dr. Phil will give them a home and take on guidance for their care. He will hire appropriate staff and supervise with a camera in every room. This is right up his alley and a sure thing to up his sagging ratings.</p>

<p>Hypothetical conversation between Nadya and the discharge planning team (totally ficticious, for purposes of illustration…)</p>

<p>Ms. Suleman- 4 of the babies are stable, have gained 18 oz and are developing adequate suckling skills, allowing us to remove their feeding tubes. They no longer meet criteria for continued inpatient care. They are to be discharged. Have you contacted Medicaid (medical) to arrange for insurance coverage for them? Oh, you were getting your nails done, I see. They will do best being fed on breast milk, supplemented with special formula. Have you been pumping and storing breast milk? Oh, you were on the Dr. Phil show… I see. They will require special cribs with appropriate cardiac monitors and oxygen saturation monitors as they are at risk for breathing issues, heart decelleration and SIDS. Have you arranged to rent the cribs? Oh, you haven’t contacted Medicaid yet. I see. Have you arranged to have your home checked out to assure adequate wiring and power supplies for the cribs, monitors, etc? Oh, you were at your lawyers all day. I see. Have you been trained on how to monitor their breathing, suckling, eye care and vision, hearing, G.I. development, expected weight gain, etc? Have you been trained on how to recognize symptoms of RSV or other emergency situations? Have you arranged for clothes, diapers, bottles, bottle warmers, carseats, eye and hand protection, etc. Oh, you were in wardrobe? I see. When will the special cribs be delivered? Do they fit in your home? What will you do if you and your mother have to bring one or more of the babies emergently to the hospital? Who will watch the other chidren? Oh, Gloria Allred is on your speed dial? I see.</p>

<p>Well, we happen to have a wonderful temporary foster care arrangement with state of the art preemie beds, monitors, trained staff, all approved by the state and covered under medicaid (medical). Oh, I forgot-- you haven’t set up their insurance yet. I see. Well, perhaps we can get an emergency approval, as they no longer meet criteria for inpatient care and need to be discharged. Were you aware that when you request disability services, they require a home visit to assess the needs and supplies? Oh you didnt know that? I see. Did you know they need a 1 week minimum time for scheduling? So you think that all the babies need is unconditional love? Oh, I see…</p>

<p>*** Oh I forgot-- their skin is delicate and they are still healing from removal of feeding tubes. Have you been trained in wound care? Oh, you will put a dab of your nail adhesive on the wound. I see…</p>

<p>Jym, you need to go into comedy writing!!! LOL.</p>

<p>It would be funny if it wasn’t so close to reality. Imagine what her french tip nails will do to those babies’ fragile skin. Ouch. The sad thing is that there is a real risk one of those babies could have an emergency and the outcome, if she is as out of touch with reality as she appears to be, could be tragic.</p>