<p>It just keeps getting worse and worse.</p>
<p>[Video</a> of Nadya Suleman giving birth to octuplets up for bidding, starting at $1 million - report](<a href=“http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2009/03/04/2009-03-04_video_of_nadya_suleman_giving_birth_to_o.html]Video”>http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2009/03/04/2009-03-04_video_of_nadya_suleman_giving_birth_to_o.html)</p>
<p>This is how she wants privacy?</p>
<p>Autism is rarely diagnosed before age two. Sometimes it’s diagnosed considerably later. Siblings of autistic people have a greatly increased chance of also having autism.</p>
<p>So, if the oldest child is diagnosed with autism, it’s likely that some of the younger ones will also turn out have autism.</p>
<p>I thought one of the news shows said it was her 3 yo son who is autistic. There are 2 y.o. twins below him. Hmmmmm…</p>
<p>It’s her oldest son – age 7 or 8-- who has been diagnosed as autistic. Two other kids have been identified as having problems, ADHD, I believe.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_audio/030309_911_multiple_1-2.mp3[/url]”>http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_audio/030309_911_multiple_1-2.mp3</a></p>
<p>You have to listen to her 911 call when her son was missing from the yard. She repeatedly says in front of her other kids–“I’m going to kill myself.” She can’t take care of these kids!</p>
<p>She has great difficulty making any sense on that call: Unable at first to provide basic info, and keeps repeating, “I’m going crazy…I’m going to die…I’m going to kill myself.” The 911 operator even has to tell her to stop saying, “I’m going to kill myself” in front of her other children.</p>
<p>I agree that she doesn’t seem capable of taking care of her children. She seems like a child herself.</p>
<p>When I was 5 and my brother was 4, my brother and a 4-year-old neighbor got lost in the woods behind our house. The police had to help search for them. I remember very well that my mother was not in hysterics during this though she was very worried particularly since there was a river behind our house.</p>
<p>[OctoMom</a> 911 – We Got the Calls! - TMZ.com](<a href=“Octomom 911 -- We Got the Calls!”>Octomom 911 -- We Got the Calls!)</p>
<p>Here’s the story behind the calls.</p>
<p>My thoughts…First, I can understand her feeling very panicked and I would be too. So, I can see that she would sound distraught and kinda hyperventilating. But by the same token, she should have had the wherewithall to give some basic information to HELP, rather than just fretting. She should have immediately given the location, the boy’s name, his appearance, her name, where she last saw him, etc. The operator kept probing for that information and she was NOT helpful. </p>
<p>Secondly, if I undertand it correctly, the kids were playing outside and did she say that the last time she had seen him was an hour ago? With very young children like that, they should not be playing outside without an adult watching over them every moment. If need be, she may need a fence if she was going in and out of the house. It is hard to keep an eye on six kids under age 7, and that is why even day care centers have ratios of adults to children that must be kept. Just because she may opt to bear umpteen children who are all very young, doesn’t mean she should be allowed to have such a ratio of care (14 to 1 under age 7, yikes). So, while these things happen, she wasn’t watching that carefully it seems. I realize she has her hands full. That is why she didn’t need MORE children, so close in age to the ones she already has (add in autism to boot). Even the most responsible and mature parent would have difficulty in this situation but here it seems we are talking about someone who doesn’t seem mature and responsible enough other than “loving her kids”, but her form of love is more like they are dolls that bring her joy and comfort, but she is lacking the responsibility that comes with parenting and that is part of what love really means.</p>
<p>“When the 911 operator called back, her six-year-old answered the phone and told the operator he was there with a babysitter – and said “my mom and dad went to like, a party.” Turns out this call was made on January 23 of this year – when Octo was in the hospital about to have her litter.”</p>
<p>The 6-year-old sounded remarkably mature. I am wondering how fast the older kids have had to grow up. That his mother was hospitalized due to her pregnancy, but the child thought his mother was at a party with his father makes me concerned about how the 6 older kids were prepared for their mom’s hospitalization and the birth of the octuplets. I imagine, however, that the grandmom had her hands full just keeping them clean, fed, safe, and getting the older kids to and from school.</p>
<p>Isn’t it rather odd that on the second 911 recording, the six year old tells the operator that he is home with a sitter because his mom and dad went to “like a party.” This call took place in Jan. when his mother was in the hospital. Perhaps he referred to his grandparents as “mom and dad” which is also rather strange (I don’t know about you, but my kids called their grandparents something other than mom and dad).</p>
<p>EDIT…I cross posted with NSM…thinking similarly!</p>
<p>PS…I also thought the six year old spoke maturely for his age.</p>
<p>Yes, the child said that his mother and father were at a party yet there is no father. The mom was in the hospital.</p>
<p>I am GUESSING that maybe the grandparents are a huge factor in raising these kids and maybe the boy referred to them as mom and dad even though that is a little odd.</p>
<p>If the grandparents are considered Mom and Dad, then what is Nadya?</p>
<p>Maybe the kids consider Nadya to be a playmate.</p>
<p>The reason I am guessing that the boy referred to the grandparents as mom and dad as I can’t find any other plausible reason because even if he didn’t understand where his mom was, there has been no dad in the picture his entire life and so who is dad? But maybe he calls his grandparents that or didn’t know how else to refer to them on the phone. </p>
<p>NSM…I don’t know if Nadya’s kids think of Nadya as their playmate but in many ways, I think SHE thinks of THEM as HER playmates (the ones she never had growing up).</p>
<p>It was realeased in the news that the police were called 8 times in one year to their house. Now I am questioning where CPS was during this time…shouldn’t there be some kind of follow up if the police are coming to your house basically every other month?</p>
<p>I just read the TMZ link and it said DFYS did come out to the house after a neighbor called saying the chilldren were dirty, but the report was unfounded…now I wonder what the housing regs are, because 8 people in a 1500 sqft home seems like they should have at least considered the housing conditions. This occurred in July…which would be right about the time she got pregnant with the 8 (figure they were born 10 weeks preemie). I wonder what that social worker is thinking now?</p>
<p>I listened to the tape 3 times and focused on the prank call to 911 at the end of the recording. It sounds as though the Grandmother got on the phone and said that it “must have been one of the grandchildren”. It sounds like she was there at the time. The kid said that his mom and dad were like at a party. It may have been an out and out lie on the kid’s part because he got caught by the other person on the line. To me, that seems a bit too much quick thinking on the part of a 6 or 7 year old child with autism. </p>
<p>I hope they don’t release those babies to this family.</p>
<p>We should start taxing any parents that have more than three children. Any more than that is ridiculous. I for one only intend to have one. Or two, if my future significant other is VERY convincing.</p>
<p>^^the best laid plans lol</p>