<p>At the end of the Los Angeles Times article this morning, is this from the grandmother:</p>
<p>"Nadya Suleman has always loved children, her mother said. Then she sighed. ‘I wish she would have become a kindergarten teacher.’ "</p>
<p>I wonder how much she loves children when they are no longer young. Unfortunately, there are many people who love only babies and small children, and don’t like being around youths, teens, and adult offspring.</p>
<p>Disgusting.
It’s one thing for a single woman living with her mom to want to have 12 children (OK, she overshot a little). But to be assisted every step of the way by a fertility doctor is obscene.</p>
<p>A few paragraphs from the middle of a long AP article</p>
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<p>I suppose fewer than eight could have been implanted, if the octuplets include any twins. Still, I feel that this large scale implantation was unethical on the part of the treating physician. What was he thinking?</p>
<p>[The</a> Associated Press: Grandma: Octuplets mom obsessed with having kids](<a href=“http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ilIx-PXnXPpwF1a_nlRYF00fzBIQD96261B81]The”>http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ilIx-PXnXPpwF1a_nlRYF00fzBIQD96261B81)</p>
<p>This is what I think will happen. California’s version of DCFS is hot on this unfolding story. There is no way they will allow those babies to be brought home to a situation where children are neglected. And let’s face it, unless some sugar daddy steps forward and offers to provide the funds for hired caregivers (even if the grandmother doesn’t leave), there’s no way this mom can adequately care for all those children. I’ll bet you anything most of those children will be removed from the home, but what happens to them, I don’t know. Will there be an attempt to keep the octuplets and twins together? Not being in the social work field, I have no idea what their options are.</p>
<p>"She said she warned her daughter that when she gets home from the hospital, “I’m going to be gone.”</p>
<p>I bet social services is watching all of this carefully as it become clearer and clearer that those children are prime candidates for neglect, abuse, etc. It’s simply impossible for the single mom (even if her mom stayed) to take care of 14 young children including 8 infants.</p>
<p>I wonder how old the grandmother is. Taking care of 6 kids under 8 including 2-year-old twins would be difficult for anyone. She and the grandfather have been caring for the kids for, I think, a couple of months while the mother was hospitalized on bed rest awaiting delivery.</p>
<p>“Will there be an attempt to keep the octuplets and twins together? Not being in the social work field, I have no idea what their options are.”</p>
<p>I can’t imagine finding a foster home for 8 infants. Just wouldn’t exist due to the amount of adult caretakers who’d be needed.</p>
<p>This is a horrible situation. Obviously, the mother will not agree to give up any of the children. I have no idea whether the state can take them, or how long it will take if they can. There are plenty of prospective adoptive parents for healthy single infants, not so many for older children, multiples, or children with special needs. Very, very sad.</p>
<p>All of her frozen embryos were implanted–WHO did this? Should the fertility specialist be sanctioned, at the very least?</p>
<p>My sister takes care of her 1 granddaughter 5 days a week. I would consider my sister
( age 56 ) to be a very energetic woman, but she does get tired ,taking care of a busy one year old …
I cannot even fathom adding a 7,6,5,3 twin 2 and eight needy newborns to that equation.
It seems this woman is mentally unstable, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see the children removed from her care. As controversial as that would be, it would be best for the children… I wonder if she had her tubes tied…I am betting not and that she still wants to add to her collection of children</p>
<p>I think the fertility specialist should be forced to take care of all 14 children, single-handedly, round-the-clock, for an entire month. ;)</p>
<p>Who is that fertility doctor? A friend of the family? The specialist clearly violated all guidelines, and I’d love to see his or her license suspended for good.</p>
<p>VeryHappy - great solution. ;)</p>
<p>The media needs to spend some time digging a little deeper into the Fertility Specialist and background of the practice. If this was done for this woman, how many others have used this same specialist and could we be expecting more multiple births in the near future? Somehow the media seems to be ignoring this info–surely they could find it–as they(the media) seem to be finding the time to “glamorize” this situation of the births of all of these children. It is a very difficult subject to discuss–ethics of it all–but I sure hope that we don’t start seeing more of these types of situations because of reckless practice. If it is not the media’s place to do this digging, then I sure hope some authority can become involved (medical ethics boards, state licensing boards, etc.) to reel in this specialist.</p>
<p>The newspaper this morning said that the sperm donor for all of the children was recently married and had asked her not to use his sperm again before she pregnant with the octuplets.</p>
<p>A minor point, but how can someone who has 6 children reasonably be described as “having trouble conceiving”? :rolleyes:</p>
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[quote[LOS ANGELES (AP) — The woman who gave birth to octuplets this week conceived all 14 of her children through in vitro fertilization, is not married and has been obsessed with having children since she was a teenager, her mother said.
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<p>from the AP story cited above. </p>
<p>Some doctor did this knowingly.</p>
<p>“I do agree about taking care of the children but what is “social cost of only children” supposed to mean?”</p>
<p>The latter half is meant for those complaining about these kids’ cost to society. Not only are we, as a society, responsible for these kids. So are we from all families and all kinds of costs. Not simply medical or economic, but also the emotionally or social that only and/or overprotected children can develop.</p>
<p>“All of her frozen embryos were implanted–WHO did this? Should the fertility specialist be sanctioned, at the very least?”</p>
<p>That’s the craziest part of the story. Who/why did someone agree to give a mother of 6, birthing twins just 2 years previously, fertility drugs? There doctor should have to assess the situation more than the family’s ability to pay.</p>
<p>[Grandma:</a> Octuplets mom obsessed with having kids - Yahoo! News](<a href=“http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090131/ap_on_re_us/octuplets]Grandma:”>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090131/ap_on_re_us/octuplets)</p>
<p>According to the neighbor who babysat for the “catwoman”, she was** paid **to undergo IVF:</p>
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<p>She had leftover embryos from earlier infertility treatment and wanted to use them rather than have them be destroyed. I don’t know if all 14 kids are from the same sperm donor (who according to the AP article specifically requested before this last pregnancy that she not use his sperm any more because he was getting married). The doctor didn’t agree to fertilize her eggs just to implant the remaining eight embryos.</p>