<p>^ They are probably waiting for the paint to dry and don’t want to expose the premies to VOCs. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>^^LOL. Good thing she stopped wearing the fake nails or she’d have to wait for that paint (well, technically resins, plasticizers and solvents??) to dry too…</p>
<p>Funny you mentioned the nails, b/c I remember when ANne Curry interviewed her she had the tips, but when she was with Dr. Phil you could see that she had them cut to the stub…I am thinking the hospital said You will not touch the babies with those nails!</p>
<p>I also remember watching her on Dr. Phil and would really ticked me off, is they left pics of the baby and when the woman from Angels in Waiting was speaking she kept her eyes focused on the big screen, instead of facing them. I remember thinking how rude…Dr. Phil tried to excuse her by saying you just can’t stop staring at them…hint…hint…give her respect they are helping you. I am pretty sure those volunteers are going to quit v quickly due to her inconsiderate attitude. I am sure she feels that she was forced into this situation and resents it. To her, she reaizes that they hold the purse strings and thta ticks her off! </p>
<p>I was ticked at Dr. Phil for having all of these goodies given to her, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized he wasn’t promoting her, but Angels in Waiting. I bet he was the mediator and said if you take their help I will get these companies to come in and help…you don’t and Gloria Allred is going to be going after you and can prove that she has a successful org. Take it or Leave it…and OBTW if you don’t I am not helping you anymore and will announce as an update why you didn’t.</p>
<p>In 6 mos. from now, I bet the update on the kids will be from Angels in Waiting with just little snippets from her.</p>
<p>Here’s a quick question…I wonder if the school system has Head Start, these preemies, probably will qualify…8 extra kids might overload their school</p>
<p>So, my coworker lives like 5 minutes away from her new house. They drove by over the weekend and said it was a circus. The house is on a cul de sac, which the neighbors have had to completely block off and there were news vans with lights everywhere. I feel really bad for the neighbors right now. Octomom is not going to be popular.</p>
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Would this represent a change from her current level of popularity, trojanchick?? I doubt it can get much lower!!</p>
<p>Just watched the opening bit of Dr. Phil today. Nayda did say that it was a slight cleft lip (she made no mention of a cleft palate). And looking at the video it is a very mild cleft compared to what I have seen.</p>
<p>House is still not ready.[Octuplets’</a>; house not ready today for babies’ release - Offbeat OC - OCRegister.com](<a href=“http://strangeoc.freedomblogging.com/2009/03/16/octuplets-house-not-ready-today-for-babies-release/10237/]Octuplets’”>http://strangeoc.freedomblogging.com/2009/03/16/octuplets-house-not-ready-today-for-babies-release/10237/)</p>
<p>Maybe 2 of the octuplets to come come Tues. And Nadya only took ONE child to Disney, her 6 yo, and was not home until 1am.[Octuplets’</a>; nursery gets ceiling mural; two due home Tuesday - Offbeat OC - OCRegister.com](<a href=“http://strangeoc.freedomblogging.com/2009/03/15/first-two-octuplets-now-due-home-tuesday/10149/]Octuplets’”>http://strangeoc.freedomblogging.com/2009/03/15/first-two-octuplets-now-due-home-tuesday/10149/)</p>
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<p>I don’t think the volunteers with Angels in Waiting are in it for the consideration. If you approach any volunteer work with that attitude, you will almost always be disappointed and get burned out. I suspect that there are very clear guidelines set up as far as what Angels in Waiting will do and will not do, and if Nadya violates any terms of the contract, the agency may choose to bail (and if they do, social services will be in there so quick, if you blink, you’ll miss it), but they do it for the love of the babies and their needs, not necessarily the moms.</p>
<p>I work for a non-profit health agency, and we have very clear guidelines for our patients. If they are not compliant with the contract as signed, we can revoke the services at any time. It’s not unusual to have families that are incredibly grateful, but push every stipulation to the limit; and it’s not unusual to have families that show no sense of gratitude, but obey the contract to every letter of the law. We don’t do it for the families; we are there for the ones who are sick and learn NOT to take personally, some of the attitudes of family members. If we did, we’d be discharging a lot of people from our agency.</p>
<p>And while it may seem different because I’m a paid employee, we do also use volunteers with our families, as I’m sure Angels in Waiting also has some paid employees up the line somewhere, who are ultimately responsible for the agency and its obligations.</p>
<p>“it’s not unusual to have families that show no sense of gratitude”</p>
<p>That’s true in every area of social services. Defend people against criminal charges, treat their cancer, rebuild their homes after a hurricane…some will be the nicest people you ever met, and some will be ungrateful jerks. Comes with the territory.</p>
<p>I watched Dr Phil today and the whole situation just still infuriates me. DP says he’s doing it for the babies not for Nadya. My concern is she is still so clueless. She’s talking today about going back to school next January and taking the kids with her…HELLO?? Like one lady commented, she would need a special drivers license to haul all the children and what vehicle?? She said, well, I have a 7 passenger van and I was just going to split up their doctor visits. Smile, grin, shrug of the shoulders…
What happens after 18 months when AIW has completed their work, who will take over the childrearing duties? So, so sad…</p>
<p>And then in continuation about the van (and also in answer to another question) she said that she would just continue to save her money. What money–she doesn’t have a job! And then, at the end she said she never realized that food stamps and WIC etc. was depending on the taxpayer. And she’s working on her Masters degree? She needs to take a remedial civics course! </p>
<p>I understand when DP was saying we can’t look back, we have to take care of the kids now, but I’m just not seeing the shift in awareness that she needs to have. I just don’t know what could make me feel better about this situation.</p>
<p>I feel even worse about Nadya after seeing her on Dr. Phil. She sounds more like a well-spoken 13 year old than an adult. I think she learned all the catch-phrases from her time in the mental health field. She uses all the right words, but has no understanding of what she’s actually saying, and proves this daily by her behavior.</p>
<p>No child deserves this. Dr. Phil asks what we would do, since the children are already here, why punish them? I guess my heartless answer is to give the 8 babies to families who would love them and take care of them. I just don’t see that being Nadya.</p>
<p>I agree–I feel worse about her every time I see her. Whenever Dr. Phil says something remotely supportive–like “any mother would be frantic” (regarding the 911 calls), she picks right up on it rather than explaining herself in her own words.
I also think she reminds me of a well-spoken 13-year-old who has picked up the buzz words, but can’t reason for herself. What she has done is honestly no different than the teenager who gets pregnant to have a baby to love and doesn’t realize the full consequences until after the baby arrives and the Grandparents have to step in. Except Nadya did it 6 times! (speaking of just her pregnancies) With all that education and supposed experience with children, it’s only sinking in now?? I’m curious as to what any of her classmates have to say.</p>
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<p>I agree. She echoes what others say and she spouts platitudes. It’s also apparent in her facial expressions. When Dr. Phil started talking about how some couples have a baby to help heal their marriage, so that baby is born with a “job,” she frowned and shook her head and interrupted him. She’s trying very hard to please and agree.</p>
<p>I am feeling unexpectedly distressed that preemies ready to be released from the hospital can’t go home because no home is yet safely available to them. Although I am tending to believe best case scenario is placing the babies in other permanent homes, that really is just not possible in a way that won’t damage them emotionally. Is it? Unless I am really uninformed, laws just don’t allow for infants to be removed forcibly from their unsuitable parents and given permanently to more suitable ones without years of chaos and conflict for the children. Do they?</p>
<p>Maybe it would be cheaper and more palatable in the end, for the state of CA and society in general, for some entity to figure out a way asap to buy the babies from Nadya (if she would agree) and then place them for adoption. I guess I might even contribute to a “buy the babies” website. hmmmm I guess that might be exactly legal either but may happen more often than we know.</p>
<p>Evidently Dr. Drew Pinsky (about whom I have more a few reservations) is peddling a new book and was on the View this morning. The book seems to be about how the general population, especially young people, are impacted by celebrity misbehaviors and react to celebrity images. Sadly (to me lol), he did not comment on Nadya but one thing he said that struck me was (and obviously a paraphrase) that when we talk to children about outrageous celebrity behaviors we should use these misbehaviors as teaching moments but at the same time discourage disdain and encourage empathy.</p>
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Much as I am appalled by this woman’s choices, that would set a horrible precedent. Where would we draw the line about deciding who is suitable to raise their own children? Scary thought.</p>
<p>I too feel even worse about Nadya after seeing her on Dr. Phil. There is something so wrong here. I nearly jumped out of my chair when she said she’s planning to go back to school in January. That her school is making special arrangements for the kids she will bring with her when she goes. What the ??? school is that? I almost threw up when she said she’d “intended” to go back in September until she discovered she was having 8 instead of 7 babies. WHAT??? Really??? In what world can someone go back to school with 7 or 8 infants??? And then to laugh while describing splitting up doctor’s appointments, etc. Really? And getting those babies into a van would happen how? </p>
<p>Ok, now, you 6 wait here while mommy puts these 2 in the van. Ok, now you 2 wait while mommy gets 2 more babies. Ok, now you 4 wait here while mommy puts these 2 in the van. Ok, now you 4 wait while mommy gets 2 more babies. Ok, now you 2 wait here while mommy puts these 2 in the van. Ok, now you 6 wait while mommy gets 2 more babies. Ok, here we go…Ok, now you 6 wait while mommy takes 2 babies into the doctor’s office. Ok, now you 2 wait here while mommy gets another 2 babies. Ok, now you 4 wait here while mommy takes 2 more babies into the doctor’s office. Ok, now you 4 wait here while mommy gets another 2 babies. Ok, now you 2 wait while mommy takes 2 more babies into the doctor’s office. Ok, now you 6 wait here while mommy gets another 2 babies…Ok, here we are. </p>
<p>I am so sorry to say this, but these babies need to be adopted out, and now, rather than later. There is just too much dysfunction to even begin to unravel.</p>
<p>It make me feel sick to my stomach. It really does.</p>
<p>What I find really frightening is that Nadya is so clueless despite being an experienced mother. I could more easily understand the unrealistic expectations (dragging all those children to school? What are they supposed to do while Nadya is listening to the lectures? Either of my two sons, as toddlers, could have disrupted an entire university on their own.) if she had not had children before. But she already has six young children, and should have some idea of what might be involved in taking them anywhere.</p>
<p>Isn’t Nadya going back to school to get her Masters in some type of social work/counseling? Who on earth is going to give this woman a job in that field knowing her background? Good grief! I will be crowned Queen of England before she gets a counseling job.</p>
<p>NYMomof2: I think the plan is to take them to daycare at her school. She’s not going to bring 14 kids into the classroom.</p>