<p>Just went on Dr Phil message boards, which I am sure Nadya and her attorney also looked at. Again, it is overwhelmingly against her. When is she going to get the clue that she needs to stop this media circus defending herself in lame ways? The sooner she gets that the sooner she will realize that America might come around and start to believe that she is putting the children first.</p>
<p>You don’t go shopping to the GAP instead of sitting at home with the newborns or being at the hospital. I keep thinking she is doing the GAP b/c J&K+8 always have their boys in GAP apparel.</p>
<p>"Linda West Comforti, a registered nurse and founder of Angels in Waiting, told [Early Show co-anchor] Chen the environment in the home in the Los Angeles suburb of La Habra is "chaotic, and that’s an understatement. Her older children have no bedtime schedule, no schoolwork schedule. They’re up till two o’clock in the morning, running around the house. I literally, myself, had to get one out of the backyard around 1:30 in the morning, because he was outside playing. He somehow escaped the nanny that was supposedly watching the older children, and he was outside playing. And I asked him to come in. </p>
<p>“And that was literally minutes before we had an intruder in the backyard at Nadya Suleman’s house because there is no security that has been provided for her, the nurses or the babies that are in the nursery.” </p>
<p>Comforti says she “rarely saw Nadya Suleman. She was either out shopping or up in her bedroom or just not available, not available to me and not available to her children.” </p>
<p>Suleman told Radaronline.com one reason she kicked Angels in Waiting out was that Comforti kept saying Comforti feared that the children would probably be abducted. Suleman told the Web site hearing that over and over made her feel “almost nauseous” because she “harped on it.” </p>
<p>I agree with Pima. Most likely, the tub was not leaking, but some inner pipes were. They could have been fixed without replacing the tub, and it would have been cheaper that way, too. Also, on the show someone said (the attorney?) that the shower in her bathroom was leaking too, so they had to replace that. It is probable that the supposed shower leak was from the same pipe leak as the tub. But she wanted a new tub and a new shower, so she got them.</p>
<p>It is clear to me from what I have seen and heard that she isn’t really very interested in the babies and kids, but is quite interested in herself. Even if she were super-capable, she wouldn’t be able to handle her brood on her own. I wonder how well she would care for even just one child, especially the one with autism.</p>
<p>My widowed sister’s life is consumed with the care of just one autistic child. He had horrible colic for months as an infant, and the problems just got worse and worse. Even now at age 16, when he is going into residential near her home, she must take him home every other weekend, and whenever he is sick, and for 2 weeks at Christmas and in the summer. She might be able to get a job, finally.</p>
<p>I spent an hour this week with a friend, and grown daughter and her daughter’s autistic 6-year-old. That little girl took all of our attention. She also got frightened into hysterics by the friend’s large, friendly dog. I learned that the girl’s mother had had to give away the family cat because the girl kept trying to strangle the animal.</p>
<p>I can’t imagine the energy it takes to keep track of that autistic boy – particularly in such a chaotic household. I also wonder how safe the octuplets and other little ones are around him.</p>
<p>I find it appalling that the “Angels” nurses are speaking publicly about what went on in Nadya’s house. If they believe that the children are in danger, then they should give their information to CPS. Even if everything they said is true, I don’t think it is nearly enough for CPS to remove the children from the house. </p>
<p>The situation is awful. We all know that Nadya is not capable of caring adequately for all those children. We are all much more capable than she is, but none of us could do it, either. But I don’t see them being placed anywhere else, unfortunately. It’s frustrating to know that every one of those children could be quickly placed with loving, devoted parents if they were free for adoption.</p>
<p>"“Nadya only fed her babies … when a film crew was in her house,” West-Conforti said. “That’s the only time that woman ever volunteered to feed a child. And I tell you what happened: During one episode she was done feeding … she picked up the child [and] gave it to me on my chest. She didn’t burp it; she didn’t change the diaper; [she] walked out of that room and [didn’t see] her for another 12 hours.” </p>
<p>While Suleman was not on the talk show to answer back – she phoned in early to discuss why she fired the AIW nannies – her attorney Jeff Czech denied all the allegations. </p>
<p>“Nadya is a very good mother and a very caring mother. The bottom line is the shoe just never fit,” he said of the short-lived arrangement with Angels in Waiting. </p>
<p>Did anyone besides me see and hear this – and also find it outrageous?
In my opinion, you really had to see her face and hear her voice to appreciate how offensive this was… to me at least.</p>
<p>And I think I must not have been the only one, because Gloria immediately made a point of making some comment about valuing hispanic childcare workers.</p>
<p>I will admit I didn’t see the expression or hear the tone, but I think I get what is meant by “hispanic speaking ladies”. I would understand that to mean Spanish speaking ladies, and that there was a legitimate concern of proper understanding of all care instructions. In the hugely chaotic situation of that household, adding a language gap to the problems could actually lead to a death.</p>
<p>The same would be true is the helpers spoke German, Portugese, or Italian in an English speaking household.</p>
<p>alh, that comment about the Hispanic speaking ladies was indeed out of line…having hired nannies myself for my kids, I understand the need to have someone fluent in English, but I found that comment offensive too</p>
<p>^^if this was how she talked in a TV interview, I can’t imagine what she was saying in the home in the hearing of impressionable young children. That, in itself, would have been enough for me to show her the door.</p>
<p>“Hispanic-speaking ladies” as offensive to my sensibilities as when I hear someone talk about that “Oriental” man/woman. Makes me crazy. But I hate anything that smacks of racism.</p>
<p>This case really has become a media frenzy. I don’t know why Nadya says she was caught off guard by the media when she brought the first two babies home. While she can’t help some of the media attention, she ALSO has brought more on of her own volition as she keeps doing interviews and having film crews and public journals, etc., which has to take up a lot of time that one would think she would need just to manage the child care and her home right now. She is feeding the existing frenzy.</p>
<p>Remember right after the babies were born, when the obstetrician and the neonatologist were interviewed? They were (justifiably) quite proud of how well the eight babies were doing, and they said the mother wanted to remain anonymous. What a crock.</p>