Off-Topic Discussion from "Colleges Crossed Off List or Moved Up After Visiting"

makes you soft. That’s what tweed is for.

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Supposedly they feel the same about underwear, but it is considered rude to peek.

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@Izzy74 Yeah, make the decision for them. Lob in an application. You can apply to 4 UK schools via UCAS for like $25. Trust me when I say attending “uni” at St. Andrews is an otherworldly experience. It would present an incredible option vs paying $60K+ for your garden variety LAC. It’s like going to college in Newport, R.I. if Salve Regina knew what they were doing. OH, another thing - the gender breakdown of the student population at St Andrews is reported as 41.5% men and 58.4% women, “And it really feels like it,” is the quote that I heard from someone over there.

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Salve catching strays up in here!

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My C23 got a lot of promotional material from Salve Regina, starting from when she went (as a 9th-grader fighting covid boredom) to a virtual college fair SR was at.

C23 wasn’t interested in going there, but the emails and postcards they sent the first couple years after that always got a really solid look, because the photos of campus were consistently so ethereally beautiful.

But then they seem to have changed their marketing approach and their promotional literature became much more bog-standard LAC, and that was so much less fun.

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Sort of reminds me - the UCSB (pretty sure it’s UCSB) portal recently changed to a dreamy photo of the beach.

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I think College of Charleston is 66-33. No joke.

Belmont, in Nashville, isn’t far off.

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Loads of schools are that way these days. D23 did keep track of which schools had very high percentages of females over males, and went to a pretty even split school. S25 doesn’t seem to care.

Notre Dame has a pretty good 50/50 balance of male/female because the dorms are single gender!

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More and more colleges are headed towards a strong female tilt. Amherst used to be 50/50 (with their applicants, it would seem they would be able to pick their gender balance), but the CDS for class of 2027 shows that they are about 57-43, and year by year, they continue to drop their male percentage. And that is with football and ice hockey. Without those athletic factors, Amherst would be even more uneven in gender split. And so it goes at college after college, with the exception of those that offer engineering, it seems.

I do wonder about the calculations that are going on in admissions office. It is clear that, nationwide, our boys are not performing at the levels of our girls. I am quite certain that there is already gender “affirmative action” going on at many schools attempting to keep some semblance of a balance. Historically, it looks like Amherst was trying to do this, but I suspect that the performance gap got too great to keep things at 50/50 (including less male applicants in their pool).

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None of these are entirely shocking, given that as of Fall 2022, 58% of all college students are women.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/08/magazine/men-college-enrollment.html

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Thanks for this article! For those who didn’t follow the link, I was surprised to see that private colleges and universities have a Title IX exemption allowing them to discriminate on the basis of gender!
"That Title IX exemption still stands, allowing private colleges and universities to privilege men during the admissions process. Marie Bigham, the executive director of ACCEPT, a group that works to improve equity in college admissions, said that until the pandemic, when many schools stopped requiring standardized tests, she considered the boost for being male to be about “equal to an extra 100 points on their SATs.” "

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You can look at the Common Data Set. And Charleston is off the charts. The freshman class is only 28 percent male, 72 female. It’s almost 3-1.

That’s reflected in the applications. Almost 19k female apps to less than 8k male.

No football team, a lot of majors more popular with girls.

There are certainly more girls than boys in colleges lately. But 72-28 is crazy.

My son is interested in the American College of the Building Arts in Charleston. Only like 100 kids, mostly dudes.

Not going to lie: College of Charleston is a huge draw for him, for this reason. That and the beaches.

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Without confirming or denying this was my S24 specifically, I have definitely heard such colleges described as “target rich environments”.

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Makes you wish you could go back and do it all over again!!

We had brochures and if I recall video tours - you could get a VHS.

No internet, Common Data Set, or gobs of real life data !!

There is definitely sizable LGBTQ community on campus - on the male side anyway - making the assumption from PDA I’ve seen.

Pretty sure USCB has always had the beach on their website/portal/marketing materials. At least they have since I attended 35 years ago!

Ten plus years ago UCSD did not. When they changed and started including the beach/ocean views, their number of applications shot up.

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I find that change funny. I mean, yes, I could lean out my window and see the ocean my frosh year (I suspect there are screens now, but apparently the 7th floor didn’t need them in the nineties), but there isn’t a nice beach you can just go hang out at like at UCSB–well, unless you want to go to the clothing optional Black’s Beach.

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For sure, but the specific pic itself was changed just recently in the portal.

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Northeastern had been 50/50 for a long time. Last year’s freshman class was 61% women. Freshmen engineering was also 60% women!

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