<p>febtober is right, not many get in with less than 2000, YayDartmuth got in with 1690, but he/she might have been one of the lucky ones, he/she has ethinicity on his/her side(a big plus) and plus YayDartmuth probably has a great personality that helped with the interview(congrads). but i still think gpa and scores nad awards are probably the most important</p>
<p>I think YayDartmuth is a ■■■■■…</p>
<p>I agree that we do need some sort of expectations in GPAs and SATs but i can guarantee you that about 80% plus of all people who apply to Dartmouth believe that they have a chance of getting in…thus they consider thier academic standing to be good enough for the school…so once you get past the numbers…this is where personal characteristics come into play. Out of the 12,000 ppl who apply to Dartmouth every year, considering that onyl about 1070 get in, there are bound to be those who were rejected with nearly perfect SAT scores and flawlss GPAs…i guess what im trying to say is that most who apply are quite equal in academic standing.(they have to be great or else they wouldnt apply to an ivy league school)…and at this point essays and life stories and personalities come into play…yes sats and gpas are crucial but all in all…they are merely responsible for even giving you the NOTION that you can get in…and since you mentioned ECs…i believe that those are undeniably an aspect of one’s personaility…volunteering…chess club…tennis…those are the things that reveal an applicants true characterisics.</p>
<p>well alina, you mentioned that ECs are a part of your personality. A lot of the people that posted told us their ECs. Therefore we also get to see their personalities. I don’t get while you’re getting annoyed at a thread “all about stats” if it includes personalities through ECs too.</p>
<p>im not getting annoyed in any form but i still do think that people are focusing a little too much on the stats…for example this is the original thread…where are the ECS…i guess people could list them under other but still…and im not trying to start a fight here or anything…but honestly since such threads go around…i recommend just a reformat…but i myself an not sure of what will go in there in order to truly encapsulate an applicant…i just wanted to make sure that ppl were aware of the other side of things :)</p>
<p>b]Stats:[ /b][ list]
[ *] SAT:
[ *] SAT IIs:
[ *] GPA:
[ *] Rank:
[ *] Other stats:
[ /list][ b]Subjective:[ /b][ list]
[ *] Essays:
[ *] Teacher Recs:
[ *] Counselor Rec:
[ *] Hook (if any):
[ /list][ b]Location/Person:[ /b][ list]
[ *] State or Country:
[ *] School Type:
[ *] Ethnicity:
[ *] Gender:
[ *] Intended Major:
[ *] major strength/weakness:
[ /list][ b]Other Factors:[ /b]</p>
<p>This one seemed a little better</p>
<p>ACCEPTED</p>
<p>[ *] SAT I (by section): 690, 690, 700
[ *] SAT IIs: US HIS 680, BIO 720
[ *] ACT:29
[ *] APs: so far 5 on bio and us his and 4 in lit
[ *] IBs:
[ *] GPA, Weighted and Unweighted: 4.0 unweighted
[ *] Rank:1/322
[ *] Senior Yr Courseload:hardest possible
[ *] Number of Apps from Your School: only me
[ *] Other stats:
[ /list][ b]Subjective:[ /b][ list]
[ *] ECs listed on app: ER volunteer, volunteer tutor, middle school youth group leader, Mama’s Hands (fed homeless), V tennis, V basketball, rec soccer, NHS pres, Key club secretary
[ *] Job/Work Experience: babysitting same family for 6 yrs 10hrs a week, tutoring
[ *] Essays (subject and responses): coming from russia, hating it here, adjusting, going back and realizing that I loved where i came from
[ *] Teacher Recs: didnt read them dont know but good i guess
[ *] Counselor Rec: hes a genius so good
[ *] Interview (feel and general location): AMAZING…i truly felt i nailed it
[ *] Hook (if any): only been in america for 10 yrs…did know any english before then
[ *] State or Country: WA
[ *] School Type, Average Stats of School (if available): public, not very good…our grauduation rate is like at 80%
[ *] Ethnicity: caucasian
[ *] Income Bracket: middle
[ *] Gender: Female
[ *] Strengths/Weaknesses: extremely motivated and determined, strong-willed, well rounded, weakness is my school
[ *] Why you think you were accepted/deferred/denied: interview helped reveal my personality, essay was good one teacher almost cried 
[ *] Other intersting/helpful factors: bilungual…almost tri
[ b]General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc: I am sooooo excited about this… anyways…hopefully this format is better</p>
<p>**Decision: ACCEPTED **
[ul]
[<em>] SAT I (by section): 730, 740, 750
[</em>] SAT IIs: 760 Bio, 710 Math II
[<em>] ACT:33
[</em>] APs: 4 on stat (10th grade), 5 on Bio and Calc last year
[<em>] IBs:
[</em>] GPA, Weighted and Unweighted: 4.02 unweighted
[<em>] Rank: no rank but somewhere in the top 5
[</em>] Senior Yr Course load: hardest possible
[<em>] Number of Apps from Your School: I was the only early kid
[</em>] Other stats:
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] ECs listed on app: synchro skating, ballet, volunteer work at my rink/other places, outside courses in languages/summer programs/study abroad programs
[</em>] Job/Work Experience:
[<em>] Essays (subject and responses): synchro was my EC essay, traveling was my regular essay (showed passion for learning/cultures/etc)
[</em>] Teacher Recs: I read one of them and it was very very good
[<em>] Counselor Rec: no idea but she does them at 11:30 at night when she’s really tired so I’m not too sure…
[</em>] Interview (feel and general location): great!
[<em>] Hook (if any): synchro is a very rare sport and my team is internationally competitive
[</em>] State or Country: MA
[<em>] School Type, Average Stats of School (if available): public, extremely competitive and very small
[</em>] Ethnicity: Caucasian
[<em>] Income Bracket: upper middle
[</em>] Gender: Female
[<em>] Strengths/Weaknesses: my commitment to things and my ability to be successful in them… I spend two school-days worth of time with my team each week and somehow still manage to live/my weakness is sadly foreign languages, which I love, and I thought that the fact that they are my interest but I’m better at everything else would hurt me, but I guess not. a lot of it is the teacher I have right now too… but oh well
[</em>] Why you think you were accepted/deferred/denied: I think I wrote about something different than most people with my essay, I think my interview was excellent, and probably my peer rec + the teacher rec that I saw at least
[li] Other interesting/helpful factors: I’ve visited the school a bunch of times and have had a lot of counselors who have gone there[/li]**General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc: I’m extremely happy to be part of the class of 2010![/ul]</p>
<p>with a fantastic observation like that, you should have applied to harvard. duh. i mean come on. first, who wants to go to college wtih a bunch of squares. next, who wants to be known as a college for a bunch of squares. you got to pick the people that will make your life enjoyable and interesting. then again, you got to pick the 2400’s that will balance out the average SAT. it’s all relative…</p>
<p>i know that its not a “discovery” but it just seemed that people didnt get it from the beginning…but anyways…yes its true colleges do accept both 2400s and some 1800s to balance it out…it is all relative…i agree</p>
<p>i know, i’m just breaking your balls, metaphorically speaking. i totally agree with you. there’s no way it’s just scores. and i think that’s probably the best thing that the ivy league has every come up with. college life is way more than just the school. unlike any other college though, we’re going rock out, and still have an ivy league education. go us.</p>
<p>its weird to hear how much of a party school Dartmouth is…kinda odd for an ivy but makes sense for the location…well see how it goes.</p>
<p>soo are we done here??</p>
<p>I’m late doing this, but I just found this website!</p>
<p>Decision:ACCEPTED</p>
<p>Stats:</p>
<pre><code>* SAT: 790 CR, 790 W, 790 M
- SAT IIs: 800 Math IIC, 800 US History
- GPA: 3.95 unweighted
- Rank: school doesn’t do it
</code></pre>
<p>Subjective:</p>
<pre><code>* Essays: good enough…what i want to learn from teaching sunday school
- Teacher Recs: ? (School policy, not allowed to know)
- Counselor Rec: ? (ditto)
- Peer Rec: ? (My sister wrote it, I expect it was good)
- Hook (if any): National Merit Semi-Finalist, All-State Tennis
</code></pre>
<p>Location/Person:</p>
<pre><code>* State or Country:Ohio
- School Type: Private
- Ethnicity: White
- Gender: F
- Intended Major: undecided
- major strength/weakness: tennis, student government, internship in archaeology, research placement in macromolecular chemical engineering… (BORING!!!)
</code></pre>
<p>looks like this kid knows her ****. unnfortunately, i noticed you were lacking a bit in your SAT I’s. it’s a miracle you got accepted.</p>
<p>kidding. you are an animal. fantastic work kid. unlike you, the sat’s took me to the rack and back. and i thank god every day that i don’t have to take them again.</p>
<p>Sorry it;s so late guys but I just found the site.</p>
<p>Decision:Accepted!</p>
<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>]SAT:2400
[</em>]SAT IIs:chem 800 latin 780 physics 760
[<em>]GPA: canadian marking system. but a 94%
[</em>]Rank: fifthish in a grade of about 100
[<em>]Other stats: AP Chem 5 AP Eng Lang 5 AP French 5 AP US History 4 AP Latin Virgil 3, National Merit SemiFinalist
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[</em>]Essays: good. about diversity and making friends from completely different worlds
[<em>]Teacher Recs: no idea
[</em>]Counselor Rec: no idea
[<em>]Hook (if any):
[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[</em>]State or Country: Toronto, Canada
[<em>]School Type: very competitive (12% acceptance rate) private high school
[</em>]Ethnicity: Asian
[<em>]Gender: F
[</em>]Intended Major: astronomy
[li]major strength/weakness: none. pretty averagely good ECs. although I did go to Harvard summer school this year and get straight As[/li][/ul]Other Factors:</p>
<p>I’m surprised you got in with a 3 on an AP exam, and I guess you r just lucky they only look at your 2 highest SAT IIs. :)</p>
<p>ChipSesh, did you see the subject where she posted a 3? Latin Virgil is absolutley brutal. She probably gets brownie points just for trying.</p>
<p>You look at that score in relation to her other standardized test scores and you get a feel for how tough it must be.</p>
<p>It’s late I know, but I just found out about this site.</p>
<p>**Decision: ACCEPTED! **</p>
<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>]SAT: CR:750 W:700 M:710
[</em>]SAT IIs: US:730 IC:700
[<em>]GPA: 3.95 uw
[</em>]Rank: school doesn’t rank
[<em>]Other stats:
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[</em>]Essays: wrote about science research partner, pretty good i’m guessing
[<em>]Teacher Recs: very good
[</em>]Counselor Rec: very good
[<em>]Hook (if any): research? not many asians applying that i know of?
[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[</em>]State or Country: LI, NY
[<em>]School Type: competitive suburban public school
[</em>]Ethnicity: chinese
[<em>]Gender: female
[</em>]Intended Major: economics (business)
[li]Major strength/weakness: Siemens Westinghouse Regional Finalist/SAT score[/li][/ul]Other Factors: Spanish Honor Society President, Long Island Housing Partnership Committee Chair, science research as said before, varsity fencing</p>
<p>My apologies ChipSesh. </p>
<p>Sometimes it’s difficult for me to discern things such as sarcasim in cyber land.</p>
<p>I’m not sure why you needed to be so harsh about it - was I in any way offensive to you?</p>