Official Brown ED 2017 Results

<p>@highlyedumacated, no need to be bitter. Brown does review applicants holistically. Just because you were deferred, doesn’t mean that they do not. Many qualified applicants who deserve to get in do not, simply because of lack of space and/or a weak spot in an application. On average, 70% of Brown EDers are deferred; we can’t all get in.
A holistic process doesn’t guarantee that those who make up for weak spots (usually academics) using stronger parts of the application (a heartfelt essay or a great extracurricular experience) will get accepted. It’s not used in order to fill in gaps with other components. You were not deferred because your application was not viewed holistically. Chin up and try again RD round.</p>

<p>haha thanks for your sympathy. i left a lotta other stuff out of my quick “stats” that i posted but i guess im just really stunned that i didn’t even get deferred. I was REALLY expecting to get deferred and the reject just took me completely off guard. i guess it just wasnt meant to be brown…getting flat out denied from your dream school since 7th grade hurts yall. anybody reading this, dont let your love for one thing consume you. colleges are weird and weird things happen</p>

<p>Drjoe - Where else are you applying? You have great stats and will do very well.</p>

<p>Decision: Accepted</p>

<p>Objective:[ul]
[<em>] SAT I (breakdown): CR-720 M-720 W-690
[</em>] SAT II: US History-740, Literature-650, Math C1-650
[<em>] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 4.34
[</em>] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 4/174
[<em>] AP (place score in parenthesis):APUSH-5, AP English Language-5
[</em>] Senior Year Course Load: AP Calc, AP English Lit, AP Euro, Chorus, H Physics, H Biotech
[li] Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.):</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): 7 Honor Societies-- VP of National, P of Music, Historian for History. Chorus (4), Select Choir (2), Student Council (4), Class President (4), Student Advisers (3), Leadership Council (4), Theatre (4) with many leads in almost 25 shows
[</em>] Job/Work Experience: Election Official, Production Assistant at local theatre group, Desk job at summer camp
[<em>] Volunteer/Community service: I volunteered working at elections from sophomore year, but this past Presidential Election I was paid. I also volunteered at a local theatre for a year but was then hired
[</em>] Summer Activities: Advanced studies programs and musicals
[<em>] Essays: they were ok. I thought that I wouldnt get in because of them
[</em>] Teacher Recommendation: I only saw one, and it was stellar.
[<em>] Counselor Rec: Amazing, it almost brought tears to my eyes-- my guidance counselor said that I have done the most for the school in his 25 years there.
[</em>] Additional Rec: At an advanced studies program I was in a show and the director used to be the dept head of theatre at Brown and we became very close.
[li] Interview: Went really well.</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Other[ul]
[<em>] Applied for Financial Aid?: yes
[</em>] Intended Major: Linguistics
[<em>] State (if domestic applicant): MA
[</em>] School Type: Public
[<em>] Ethnicity: White
[</em>] Gender: Male
[li] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): none</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Reflection[list]
[li] Strengths: grades and ec’s</p>[/li]
<p>[li] What you tried to focus on in your application - any hooks you tried to make for yourself: my positive attitude as a driver for succeeding</p>[/li]
<p>[li] Weaknesses: my supplemental essays were not very inspired</p>[/li]
<p>[li] Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected: my recommendations.</p>[/li]
<p>[li] Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/rejected: nowhere! ugh such a relief to never have to look at the common app again</p>[/li]
<p>NEW QUESTION
Your “Brown” factor - the most unique thing in your application: my common app essay was about my hobby of reading tarot cards and applying what I learned from them to the world at large.</p>

<p>Decision: Deferred</p>

<p>Objective:[ul]
[<em>] SAT I (breakdown): 2190 (700R, 700M, 790W) Didn’t submit
[</em>] ACT: 33
[<em>] SAT II: 760 Math II, 800 Bio-M
[</em>] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 4.0
[<em>] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): N/A, but school is very competitive
[</em>] AP (place score in parenthesis): 5 AP Bio, 3 APUSH
[<em>] IB (place score in parenthesis): N/A
[</em>] Senior Year Course Load: Adv. Video Film, Track PE, AP English Literature, AP Calculus AB, AP Physics B, AP Government, AP Econ
[<em>] Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): National Merit Commended Student
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[</em>] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Key Club, American Red Cross Club (VP), JV Track & Field, Shadowed doctors at a local hospital
[<em>] Job/Work Experience: Worked at the local fair for two summers
[</em>] Volunteer/Community service: Key Club (170 Hours), American Red Cross Club (70 hours), Hospital Volunteer (40 hours), Volunteered at a surgery center (300+ hours)
[<em>] Summer Activities: Worked at the fair, SAT and ACT classes (didn’t write in app)
[</em>] Essays: Average. I’m a decent writer, but I didn’t have a lot of time so they didn’t turn out as good as they could have. Maybe a bit generic.
[<em>] Teacher Recommendation: (AP Bio Teacher) She likes me, but doesn’t really know me that personally, letter may have been generic. (Chemistry Teacher/Track Coach) She likes me, but same as above, and it was a bit rushed.
[</em>] Counselor Rec: Large class, but she likes me. I can’t imagine that it was spectacular, but I don’t think it was bad. Maybe generic.
[<em>] Additional Rec: N/A
[</em>] Interview: Went wonderfully. I really connected with my interviewer and we talked for about 1.5 hours about my passion for medicine, interest in film, and about my school/city as well.
[/ul]Other[ul]
[<em>] Applied for Financial Aid?: No
[</em>] Intended Major: Biology (PLME Applicant)
[<em>] State (if domestic applicant): CA
[</em>] Country (if international applicant):
[<em>] School Type: Public, but very competitive with a large Asian population
[</em>] Ethnicity: Asian (Chinese)
[<em>] Gender: Male
[</em>] Income Bracket: >250K
[li] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): my passion for medicine</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Reflection[ul]
[<em>] Strengths: A lot of volunteer experience, genuine concern for others, good test scores and grades.
[</em>] What you tried to focus on in your application - any hooks you tried to make for yourself: my passion for medicine and concern for others.
[<em>] Weaknesses: Nothing really too out of the ordinary; I talked to my interviewer about my passion for film as well, but I didn’t write about it in my application, so that might’ve helped had I done it :frowning: Essays were kind of rushed, so I didn’t really get to think of anything too inspirational.
[</em>] Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected: Application was probably too generic, essays weren’t that strong.
[li] Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/rejected: ED[/li][/ul]</p>

<p>NEW QUESTION[ul]
[li] Your “Brown” factor - the most unique thing in your application: I’d have to say that my concern for others really showed in my essay and volunteer experience. However, it may not have been special enough. [/li][/ul]</p>

<p>I honestly was expecting a rejection from Brown, so I was surprised when I saw my deferral. I’m a PLME applicant, so I was super unsure. Not sure how well my application will stand out among the RD applicants, but hoping for the best. Congratulations to all of you!</p>

<p>ACCEPTED !!! :slight_smile: </p>

<p>stats later if I feel like doing it…</p>

<p>@lacrossemom
I’ve been accepted to Tulane Honors with 100k scholarship, UT PLAN II Honors. I’m applying to USC, Dartmouth, Rice, and Upenn regular decision just to test my luck (from life experiences I’m quite bad at gambling haha). If anyone wants to see a bigger version of my resume let me know. Our counselor makes us cut it short to two pages so it only has the “significant” things but it should be more than enough for my overview.</p>

<p>I’m not trying to diss anyone here or come off as “that guy”, but I felt that I was at least comparable to the people who have posted deferred stats. I guess the biggest let down is why I didn’t even get an explanation for rejection.</p>

<p>Decision: Deferred</p>

<p>** Objective:** list]
[<em>] SAT I (breakdown): 2300 800 CR, 780 W, 720 M
[</em>] ACT: 34 (didn’t submit)
[<em>] SAT II: 790 English, 760 French, 690 Bio (didn’t submit)
[</em>] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.91
[<em>] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): School doesn’t rank, but probably near the top
[</em>] AP (place score in parenthesis): No APs offered
[<em>] IB (place score in parenthesis):
[</em>] Senior Year Course Load: Organic chemistry, Calc 2, French 5, English, architecture, journalism
[li] Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): National Merit semifinalist, big creative writing award at my school</p>[/li]
<p>[/list]** Subjective:**[ul]
[<em>] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Journalism (editor), Amnesty International chapter (founder and leader), Dance (14 years of classes- reached the highest level and am in a performing company), National French Honor Society, National Dance Honor Society, Junior Statesmen of America
[</em>] Job/Work Experience: just babysitting, but I didn’t put that
[<em>] Volunteer/Community service: teach dance at Ronald McDonald house, volunteered for a political campaign, tutor elementary school kids
[</em>] Summer Activities: MMLA French immersion program, volunteering
[<em>] Essays: everyone who read them loved them. I consider myself a very strong writer
[</em>] Teacher Recommendation: both very good (one math, one English)
[<em>] Counselor Rec: very good
[</em>] Additional Rec: None, but should I send one in from my Journalism adviser for the RD round?
[li] Interview: a little awkward on his end but overall, fine</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Other[ul]
[<em>] Applied for Financial Aid?: no
[</em>] Intended Major: English or sociology
[<em>] State (if domestic applicant): WA
[</em>] Country (if international applicant):
[<em>] School Type: small competitive private school
[</em>] Ethnicity: white
[<em>] Gender: female
[</em>] Income Bracket: upper middle class
[li] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): nope</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Reflection[list]
[<em>] Strengths: essays, reccomendations
[</em>] What you tried to focus on in your application - any hooks you tried to make for yourself: a writer and artist with a passion for human rights and political activism
[<em>] Weaknesses: Math SAT, GPA? I’m not sure
[</em>] Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected: I’m an upper middle class white girl-- not exactly a sought after demographic. But I thought I was well-rounded and highly qualified.
[li] Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/rejected: Nowhere yet, which sucks</p>[/li]
<p>NEW QUESTION
[li] Your “Brown” factor - the most unique thing in your application: I guess that I’m very humanities focused (dance, journalism), yet I’m taking by far the most advanced math offered at my school. But I guess I don’t have much of a hook other than being smart and accomplished, just like all the other applicants. </p>[/li]
<p>As a favor to all of us upset over a deferral/ rejection, please don’t say you were accepted because your essays were really honest or true to you. I know I really poured everything I had into my application, as I’m sure the majority of applicants do. It’s tough enough to write a very personal application and basically be told you’re not good enough without having those lucky enough to be accepted tell you that you just should’ve been more honest or whatever. Congrats to everyone who got in and good luck to everyone else deferred!</p>

<p>You’re supposed to take 2 SAT Subject Tests. :/</p>

<p>Decision: Deferred</p>

<p>Objective:[ul]
[<em>] SAT I (breakdown): 1970 CR680 W590 M700
[</em>] SAT II: Math2-680 Math1-640
[<em>] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0):3.78
[</em>] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable):unavailable
[<em>] AP (place score in parenthesis):no APs
[</em>] IB (place score in parenthesis):no IBs
[<em>] Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.):some small awards in China
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[</em>] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis):student government, swimteam, pianist for choir, church, charity projects, drawing, design, photography, founder of three clubs, archi prizes
[<em>] Job/Work Experience: intern in Uniqlo
[</em>] Volunteer/Community service:400+ hours
[<em>] Summer Activities:none
[</em>] Essays:about my charity project
[<em>] Teacher Recommendation: one was pretty good the other was plain
[</em>] Counselor Rec:pretty good
[<em>] Additional Rec:none
[</em>] Interview:went pretty good, we had a nice conversation, it was a phone interview.
[/ul]Other[ul]
[<em>] Applied for Financial Aid?:no
[</em>] Intended Major:Architecture
[<em>] Country (if international applicant): China
[</em>] School Type:public high school
[<em>] Ethnicity: half white half asian
[</em>] Gender: Female
[<em>] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): none
[/ul]Reflection[list]
[</em>] Strengths: my activities and my essay
[<em>] What you tried to focus on in your application - any hooks you tried to make for yourself: my charity project
[</em>] Weaknesses: TEST SCORES!!! I HATE THE SAT TEST… should have took the ACT instead…
[<em>] Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected: good activites but not bright enough, and low test scores.
[</em>] Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/rejected: was accepted USC, NYU, BostonU, NotreDame last year, I didn’t apply to Brown but I REALLY LOVE BROWN…so I’m doing the whole application process again for Brown, fingers crossed for all the deferred applicants… </p>

<p>NEW QUESTION
[*] Your “Brown” factor - the most unique thing in your application: my self reflection paragraph in my main essay?.. don’t really know</p>

<p>Deferred.
[ *] SAT I (breakdown): 2050 (690 CR, 710M, 650 W)
[ *] ACT: -
[ *] SAT II: 670 for Math 1 and 710 for Literature
[ *] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): My school doesn’t calculate this so I can’t say for sure, but if I use my I/GCSEs and AS level results, I get 3.79.
[ *] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): My school doesn’t do rankings
[ *] AP (place score in parenthesis):
[ *] IB (place score in parenthesis):
[ *] Senior Year Course Load: A-level English literature, A-level history, A-level economics and A-level Chinese
[ *] Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): None?</p>

<p>[ /list][ b]Subjective:[ /b][ list]
[ *] Extracurriculars
-released an album written by myself over the summer
-editor-in-chief of the school yearbook
-advice columnist for the school newspaper
-joint leader of the school’s film critique club
-vice-captain of the school netball team
-was in the school ball hockey team</p>

<p>[ *] Job/Work Experience: Interned at a marketing firm for a month</p>

<p>[ *] Volunteer/Community service:
-Spent a week at an orphanage in Nepal with the kids
-Spent a month teaching underprivileged kids English at a church</p>

<p>[ *] Summer Activities:
-Took a history course at one of the top universities in Hong Kong</p>

<p>[ *] Essays: Pretty good, I think? If anything, I think they were somewhat unusual (not boasting - this could also be interpreted in a negative light). I wrote about my own take on the concept of YOLO and in another one, explored the thoughts and feelings I had when I discovered that my friend was cheating on his girlfriend, who also was a friend of mine.</p>

<p>[ *] Teacher Recommendation: My economics teacher apparently wrote a really nice recommendation for me, but I’m not sure about my literature teacher…that really could have gone either way.</p>

<p>[ *] Counselor Rec: My history teacher probably wrote about how I don’t like to conform or something like that.</p>

<p>[ *] Additional Rec: -
[ *] Interview: Went very well, I think. </p>

<p>[ /list][ b]Other[ /b][ list]
[ *] Applied for Financial Aid?: Yes.
[ *] Intended Major: Business, Organisations and Entrepreneurs
[ *] State (if domestic applicant): -
[ *] Country (if international applicant): Hong Kong
[ *] School Type: Private
[ *] Ethnicity: Chinese
[ *] Gender: Female
[ *] Income Bracket: Can’t say for sure, really.
[ *] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): Didn’t know what a “hook” in this context meant until I went on this site yesterday…no idea. Both my parents went to university…</p>

<p>[ /list][ b]Reflection[ /b][ list]
[ *] Strengths: My writing and my interview
[ *] What you tried to focus on in your application - any hooks you tried to make for yourself: That the reason I considered Brown to be such a good match for me was because I am someone who likes being able to decide what I do, given the brevity of life, and that I am slightly eccentric.</p>

<p>[ *] Weaknesses: None of my academic/standardized test scores were brilliant
[ *] Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected: Because of that ^
[ *] Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/rejected: Don’t know yet.</p>

<p>NEW QUESTION
[ *] Your “Brown” factor - the most unique thing in your application: Doing my own things without caring about how other people perceive them and the philosophies behind, and doing them because I wanted to, not because I was particularly good at it.</p>

<p>Decision: Accepted</p>

<p>Objective:[ul]
[<em>] SAT I (breakdown): 2160 (CR 690, M 790, W 680)
[</em>] ACT: Didn’t take
[<em>] SAT II: Math 2 - 760, Physics 750
[</em>] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): School doesn’t give GPAs. 8As (5A<em>s) in O’ Levels. 3As in AS
[</em>] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): School doesn’t rank
[<em>] AP (place score in parenthesis): British school system
[</em>] IB (place score in parenthesis): O/A Levels, not IB
[<em>] Senior Year Course Load: A Level Math, Physics, Economics and Further Math
[</em>] Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): </p>

<p>[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Quite a lot of debates and Model UN. (VP of debating society). Short film producer. Tennis and cricket player.<br>
[</em>] Job/Work Experience: 1 month of work at family business
[<em>] Volunteer/Community service: Special Olympics
[</em>] Summer Activities: Summer@Brown '12. I took 2 college classes.
[li] Essays: Quite good. </p>[/li]
<p>[<em>] Teacher Recommendation: Did not see, but must have been very good
[</em>] Counselor Rec: Hard to say since I got a new gc this year and did not have too much interaction. But still the rec must have been quite good
[<em>] Additional Rec: None
[</em>] Interview: Awesome interview </p>

<p>[/ul]Other[ul]
[<em>] Applied for Financial Aid?: Did not apply
[</em>] Intended Major: Applied Math/Econ
[<em>] State (if domestic applicant): -
[</em>] Country (if international applicant): Pakistan
[<em>] School Type: Private school. ~100 kids per year
[</em>] Ethnicity: Asian (Pakistani)
[<em>] Gender: Male
[</em>] Income Bracket: -
[li] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): None (first cousin studying there) </p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Reflection[list]
[<em>] Strengths: summer program. Good essays. A challenging course load throughout high school.<br>
[</em>] What you tried to focus on in your application - any hooks you tried to make for yourself: My diversity and willingness to adapt to change?
[<em>] Weaknesses: Nothing stands out, but I didn’t have outstanding stats
[</em>] Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected: I demonstrated significant interest by attending S@B and I suppose everything else was in line
[li] Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/rejected: Nowhere else since ED </p>[/li]
<p>NEW QUESTION
[*] Your “Brown” factor - the most unique thing in your application: Not quite sure about that</p>

<p>DrJoe-
Did others from your high school apply?</p>

<p>@Nervousmom
One other student from my school applied he is cum laude and I’m not so I think they compared my app to his and trashed mine because of it. It’s the only real explanation I can think of as to why I was outright rejected</p>

<p>@drjoe92
Is it possible you were missing something in terms of standardized testing requirements? Brown requires either the SAT plus 2 subject tests or the ACT with writing. Maybe you just didn’t list everything, but in your stats you only have 1 subject test, and you don’t have a writing score for the ACT. (Even still, I would expect that you’d get deferred for something like that.)</p>

<p>Decision: Accepted</p>

<p>Objective:[ul]
[<em>] SAT I (breakdown): 2260 (R:720 W:750 M:790)
[</em>] ACT:
[<em>] SAT II: Biology 790, Math II 750, Chinese 800
[</em>] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0):
[<em>] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable):
[</em>] AP (place score in parenthesis):
[<em>] IB (place score in parenthesis): Predicted 43
[ *] Senior Year Course Load: HL Literature, HL Art, HL Economics, SL Math, SL Bio, SL Chinese Language and Literature
[</em>] Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): Hilary Munro Award, Academic Award, International Youth Awards
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Book A Book (founder, president), Unit-E Magazine (school representative), yearbook (editor), MUN, art club, basketball, dance
[</em>] Job/Work Experience: Tutor elementary school children on weekends. Interned at Harper’s BAZAAR.
[<em>] Volunteer/Community service: Mainly Book A Book, a charity project I founded, and some other stuff.
[</em>] Summer Activities: Summer@Brown, RISD Pre-college, internships
[<em>] Essays:
[</em>] Teacher Recommendation: Literature and bio teachers. Average and good.
[ <em>] Counselor Rec: Good
[ *] Additional Rec: Art teacher. Good-ish
[ ] Interview: Excellent, I’m a talky person
[/ul]Other[ul]
[</em>] Applied for Financial Aid?:
[<em>] Intended Major: Dual degree. English at Brown, Apparel design at RISD
[</em>] State (if domestic applicant):
[<em>] Country (if international applicant): CHINAAAAA <3
[</em>] School Type: International School
[<em>] Ethnicity:Asian
[</em>] Gender: F
[<em>] Income Bracket: >400,000
[</em>] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): Um… none
[/ul]Reflection[list]
[<em>] Strengths: NO IDEAAAA. My app was coherent, my art supplement?
[</em>] What you tried to focus on in your application - any hooks you tried to make for yourself:
[<em>] Weaknesses: Scores, lack of leadership roles, no hooks.
[</em>] Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected: I WANNA ASK YOU!
[li] Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/rejected: ED</p>[/li]
<p>NEW QUESTION
[
] Your “Brown” factor - the most unique thing in your application: I HAVE NO IDEAAAA IM STILL IN DISBELIEF!!! <3<3<3</p>

<p>Hey @LiveLaughLearn! I got into the PLME too! I guess we’ll eventually get to know each other in person!</p>

<p>If the other student at your school was accepted, that could have knocked you out. </p>

<p>You will find a wonderful college! Sounds like you have great options already.</p>

<p>Decision: Accepted + PLME</p>

<p>Objective:
• SAT I (breakdown): 2260 (R:740 W:750 M:770)
• ACT: 36 (English:36, Reading: 36, Science:36, Math: 35)
• SAT II: Chemistry 790, Math II 800
• Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 4.0
• Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 2
• AP (place score in parenthesis): None
• Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): Intel ISEF 3rd Place Microbiology, JSHS National Poster Presenter, Siemens SemiFinalist, National Prudential Spirit of Community Award winner, etc.
Subjective:
• Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Providence House Birthday Bash (Founder: Throw birthday parties every month for homeless kids), Music With Coffee and Donuts (Founder: Play violin for patients at the VA Hospital), National Caliber violinist, Varsity Tennis all 4 Years of Highschool (Captain), Magnet High Orchestra (Concertmaster) </p>

<p>• Job/Work Experience: Researcher in Microbiology Lab
Materials Management at Promise Hospital</p>

<p>• Volunteer/Community service: Projects listed above and many more hours for miscellaneous things

• Summer Activities: Summer@Brown, Research at LSUHSC, etc.
• Essays: I personally think my essays were pretty good
• Teacher Recommendation: Chemistry (great) and English Teacher (good)
[ *] Counselor Rec: Awesome (I have a personal relationship with mine)
[ *] Additional Rec: Violin Teacher (great)
[ *] Interview: Excellent, I’m a talkative person
Other
• Applied for Financial Aid?: No
• Intended Major: PLME
• State (if domestic applicant): Louisiana
• Ethnicity:Asian
• Gender: M
• Income Bracket: >400,000
• Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): NONE</p>

<p>NEW QUESTION[li] Your “Brown” factor – I am a lucid dreamer![/li]I didn’t include as much as I could have but these are the basics. I am too excited to get too in depth sorry guys! Ahhhh!</p>

<p>@nhartmann10 yeah I just didn’t put everything in my stats. I have a 740 chemistry sat and 800 math 2. 11 on both essay portions of sat and act. The other kid from my school was accepted. I also did a bunch of shadowing with surgeons and witnessed first hand numerous operations. sponsored 2 kids for 6-12th grade education…blah blah there’s more but I guess it’s just luck of the draw. I definitely had all the required material submitted I guess I just got unlucky :(</p>