<p>Congrats to all those that got in last night/today. And welcome to the Class of 2016!</p>
<p>Best of luck to all of you who didn’t get the news you wanted to hear. You’re all amazing people, and you will make other colleges and universities proud to have you! Keep your heads up!!</p>
<p>This is probably going to sound bad, but is the whole process admissions not ridiculous? Honestly, what do you have to do? I got a 2300 on my SAT, have a 3.8 gpa, go to a math and science school, and do a ton of extracurriculars, not to mention have a job and an internship with my county’s engineering department. Michigan has been my first choice since my sophomore year, but I guess they filled their quota of white guys already. I got waitlisted, but I’m going to reject it. They don’t think I’m good enough to be accepted, well then I don’t want to be there. Thank you Michigan for wasting the last six months of my time. Sorry guys, just felt the need to vent.</p>
<p>I got rejected, and U of M was my number one choice by far :(. But don’t hate on UMich for rejecting or wait listing you. They have over 40,000 applicants. They can’t accept all qualified students. Picture yourself in the mind of the admissions counselors, constantly dealing with calls from concerned parents and students on top of making huge decisions of deciding what’s best for the university that’s known worldwide. You can also transfer there too after a semester or two.</p>
<p>@goalie30
Are you serious that they told you that they don’t consider the weighted GPA? They actually said this? Has anyone else gotten this intel from UM? Unbelievable! I’m with you, goalie, that something isn’t right here. I’ve been waitlisted after being deferred from EA. UM was my No. 1 school and I said as much in the essays. I have not heard from UM for over 4 months despite trying to contact my counselor. I have a 4.2 weighted but a 3.75 unweighted. If I had known that they preferred unweighted, I would have taken the easier classes. I had great SAT and ACT scores as well. I guess my strategy of taking the most rigorous classes was bad with respect to UM.</p>
<p>In response to those who say that affirmative action is bad, I would say that UM’s current system is much worse. At least during affirmative action it was a “numbers” game and there was an opportunity for EVERYONE based on percentages and cumulative competitive points over the first three years of high school. If you were a white student on the statistical margins, you knew where you were and could apply at other schools in which your stats meant something. Under the current system because UM is afraid of getting sued and losing again at the SCOTUS, there is no discernable pattern. White, male students (from my high school) with lower GPAs, lower test scores, far fewer AP courses, less rigorous courses (Algebra II vs. Calculus) and lesser ECs are getting in before me. Our school gives out the same recs and school report so there is no difference there. And please, don’t get me started on the essays. My opinion is that the essays for each school (not just UM) are the ultimate arbitrary wild card that can be used against you at a whim. In short, I think that UM’s system has been altered becasue of the SCOTUS decision to allow UM to continue with some sort of affirmative action but now without merit as one of the criteria.</p>
<p>Don’t get me wrong; I’ve been accepted at several great schools (comparable to UM) and yet I would choose UM over these other schools if I was chosen from the waitlist. I applied and did not get into several Ivys (and near Ivys like Chicago) and knew those schools were a reach but took a chance just in case. My complaint is not with the academic excellence that UM represents. Rather, I think the bureaucratic nightmare that is the UM admissions process as a result of the SCOTUS decision is unnecessary and will ultimately harm UM’s reputation if this process continues.</p>
<p>i got waitlisted as well… how many people get waitlisted?</p>
<p>@Lindsyoxo I got waitlisted too. Have you got any other great school to fall back to…??</p>
<p>Yes LOTR1994 - they said his unweighted total GPA was 3.3 and they would never consider anything under a 3.4 unweighted. So he is being penalized for taking the most difficult courses his school had to offer. Tell me that is not screwed up! Thankfully Michigan was the only school he applied to that looked at it this way! The other schools would prefer to see a student that pushes and challenges themselves!</p>
<p>My son was waitlisted today as well (after being deferred EA). However, he has already put down a deposit at Washington University in St. Louis where he is thrilled to be attending. He is not upset with Michigan and was accepted (and in a few cases rejected) at several other great schools, so I feel like what I’m about to say is completely unbiased.</p>
<p>I think the reason that people are more upset with Michigan than other schools they may have been rejected from is the total ludicracy of their admissions process.</p>
<p>First, they randomly release EA decisions throughout a few days so, in many cases, kids friends and peers learn their fate before they do. Then they defer a huge number of students but refuse to give them any indication as to when they will ultimately hear (prolonging the wait), next they start releasing decisions arbitrarilly and give inconsistent information to inquiries. Oh, let’s not forget the three different iterations of deferral letters and the two types of waitlists…or the refusal to respond to emails to admissions officers. Finally, you get a decision (even if it is to wait longer…) and…my personal favorite…they don’t even email you to let you know you have gotten a decision. You have to be committed (or lucky) enough to log on to find it.</p>
<p>Anyway, as I said, no hard feelings. Michigan is a wonderful, top notch school and anyone who attends should be very proud. My son loved the school spirit and at one point it was at the top of his list.</p>
<p>I just cannot say enough about how poorly Michigan handles the admissions process. Clearly improvement is necessary.</p>
<p>My son will obviously not be accepting the waitlist spot as he has enrolled elsewhere. However, I feel for those that will continue to wait in the months to come.</p>
<p>^ Congrats to your son! Washington University in St. Louis is a great school and it’s extremely difficult to be accepted there.</p>
<p>when can we expect to hear back after being waitlisted?</p>
<p>From what I understand, those who have been put on “extended wait list” will hear sometime mid summer. Not exactly the easiest thing in the world to endure.</p>
<p>Having two other sons who were accepted in the past year to U of M, the admissions process this year is out of control. If (as stated in one of the prior posts) U of M has truly gone to an unweighted GPA analysis without any appreciation of the rigor of the curriculum that the student has taken on, then the extra work AP and IB classes and certainly an IB Diploma has truly become meaningless if U of M is your dream school.</p>
<p>I tend to think that is the way it is headed. My son isn’t a stellar “super” student, but he does work hard. By the end of his senior year he will have 12 AP classes under his belt and because of the rigor of these classes a cumulative unweighted GPA of only 3.65 with an ACT of 30. He, along with many on this thread, is now on the “extended wait list” (a/k/a you’re out of luck list) at U of M.</p>
<p>His best friend hasn’t taken one AP or Honors class and instead has taken classes like “Foods for Fitness” and “Advanced Coaching and Training” and a study hall every year, has a unweighted 3.9 GPA (there’s nothing to weight) and and ACT of 27 and was admitted. This friend is shocked he got in.</p>
<p>All of the students on the thread will move on and I am sure will be successes at whatever they choose to study at whatever college is lucky enough to have them. I sense that very few on this thread are what I call “slackers”, and I feel for all of you. I just wish for all of your sakes that there was some logic to U of M’s acceptance process this year. In any event, best of luck!</p>
<p>P.S. GCLawMom hit it on the head with her son’s situation. There is no way that a student who is accepted to Wash U/St. Louis shouldn’t have been welcomed with open arms at U of M!</p>
<p>Why is the difference between the two wait lists and how do I tell if I am on the extended wait list</p>
<p>if it said I will be notified by May 15th is that the extended waitlist or regular one? and what;s the difference?</p>
<p>Mmm I don’t know if the whole UW GPA thing is right… I was admitted EA with a 3.74 (2 Cs in math, 1 C- in AP Chem) and a 32 ACT.</p>
<p>As far as I have been able to determine, the wait list and the “extended” wait list are the same thing. Those who are more knowledgeable, please chime in.</p>
<p>If you have any stats as to how many were wait listed last year and how many actually cleared the wait list, please share them with us. Thanks!</p>
<p>With only about 1% percent getting in off the wait list I would say it’s a nice way of saying “sorry you didn’t get in.” Unfortunately around 99% do not get in from the wait list so it is best to make other plans. Not good odds. Seems like there could be a better way to this whole application process…</p>
<p>seniorcat: or did your email say you need to reply by May 15? My son’s said he needed to reply by May 15 to accept a place on the extended wait list and they would notify him by end of June. I can’t see there being more than 1 list; but, if there is I hope this helps to clarify.</p>
<p>FAFSA Parent: I found this link on another thread.
[Office</a> of Budget & Planning: Common Data Set](<a href=“Office of Budget and Planning”>Office of Budget and Planning)
Pretty Grimm. It is full of details on the admitted class of 2011 and University as a whole. Approx 14.7k wait listed 4.5k accepted 42 admitted. I guess at a world renowned liberal university most everyone gets a wait list medal. There are no losers only winners.</p>
<p>EA deferred, waitlisted. Denied @Wash U. Ditto on the uw GPA – 3.6 – learned too late that should have taken less AP courses and focused on higher GPA. They don’t care about the weighted GPA and most of the other schools didn’t either, like Wash U, Emory, etc. Best to not have an extracurricular commitment from Junior year on and to solely focus on academics – the only way to get uw 4.0. Oh, and start practicing for the SATs in 8th gr. so that by Junior year you can achieve the highest score possible.</p>
<p>Midatlantic, I agree with you. My son was admitted to U of M, but after being rejected by the Ivies, Northwestern and Vandy, the lesson we learned is that mostly what matters are the numbers - you need the highest GPA and the highest test scores possible. That’s what we’re telling our son whose a freshman now. You gotta plan accordingly.</p>