Official June 2nd SATI Thread

<p>Ahh… now that you put it that way aldeswari, I think defiant is correct. The quote at the end “sometimes the realization of something is less rewarding than the pursuit” sounds defiant to me. I doubt they would put a passage, as they really havn’t before, that has a consistantly disdainful tone.</p>

<p>The answer was “disdainful.” The quote from aldeswari is from the squid passage. The question asked for the attitude towards TV. The author thought that watching TV would be too passive and is an undesirable activity. “Defiant” would imply that the author is recalcitrant and almost defying the authority of TV, which makes very little sense, since such an attitude is far more appropriately applied to a human being, not an object or abstract concept. Very strong tones or attitudes are usually, but not always, wrong. Besides, “disdainful” is not completely extreme. “Revulsion,” for example, was the correct answer to a passage question (from the Venice passage, if anyone had the section) from my experimental CR section. Something like “absolute disgust,” however, would probably be too extreme for a tone or attitude question.</p>

<p>no no no, stix, you’ve got it wrong.
the defiant vs. disdain concerns the motorcycle passage
whereas “the realization of something is less rewarding than the pursuit” realization=accomplishment concerns the giant squid passage.</p>

<p>godot- i see where ur coming from, but disdainful means “scornful” which certainly is pretty harsh- after reading the excerpt it appeared that the guy was against TV’s passiveness and desired something more active. to say he is disdainful would imply that he dislikes TV overall, but instead he doesnt like that aspect of TV in comparison to riding his bike- defiant (at least I believe) acurately shows how he is against TV (which he was) but chose to persue his own path (aka riding motorcycles)</p>

<p>i may of course be wrong, but disdainful seems harsh for an SAT passage, considering the passage itself is not anti-tv but instead pro-riding in the country</p>

<p>tennis89,</p>

<p>I think you are overthinking the question. The best (and correct) answer on the SAT isn’t always a perfect answer, but it will always be the best choice among the five choices. Merriam-Webster defines “disdain” as “a feeling of contempt for someone or something regarded as unworthy or inferior.” The author certainly feels that TV is inferior. The author both displays a disdain for TV and a bent for motorcycle riding.</p>

<p>yeah sorry about that misunderstanding. </p>

<p>i have to agree with tennis89 on the defiant/disdainful. while godot does make a valid point, i’m still not convinced that disdainful fits in with the overall tone of the passage. the author emphasizes pleasing experiences of motorcycle riding, not the monotony of television. notice that the author hardly elaborated on what he didn’t like about the TV, only that it was “framed” or something like that(if you remember anything else please let me know, that’s all i remember atm). to me, the general message of the passage was that he had gone against his previous way of life of watching TV, taking only freeways, living in the city, etc. etc.</p>

<p>looking back, i think we’re just going to have to wait this one out… at least as of now, there’s no way to be sure which one is right.</p>

<p>godot- im still torn between the two. i believe that both can be appropriate answers. but what do u believe about defiant is wrong, rather than what about disdain is correct?</p>

<p>yeah thats an ambiguous question. i think it will turn out to be disdain though.</p>

<p>I think defiance implies physical opposition, or at least speaking out against it.</p>

<p>disdainful!!!</p>

<p>FINAL ANSWER.</p>

<p>in my opinion, defiant shud be only used if something is being forced onto someone, and that someone is finding ways to defying it. In this case, nobody is trying to shove him in a car. so no</p>

<p>if i missed like 5 math questions what do yall think my score would be?</p>

<p>Hmm… at this point I’m actually drawn toward defiant. Although Godot made the good point that the author thinks tv is inferior, based on the other comments, it seems that he has no “contempt” or hate for tv. He simply likes one thing more and apparently spends more time adressing motorcycle riding than he does slandering tv. In order to say that it was disdainful, the author would have had to openly criticize tv, consistantly. It doesn’t seem that he did that. Then again, I didn’t actually read the passage… haha.</p>

<p>your opinion is kind of void, if u didn’t even take the test ><</p>

<p>Nevermind… Defiant is defined as “boldly resisting” something. That pretty much shoots down that answer.</p>

<p>And so what if I didn’t take the test, HUH (i’m kidding…)</p>

<p>Was it just me or was that test absurdly easy? I couldn’t really tell the differences between the hard and easy questions. Based on my PSAT, I should have gotten about 2240, but I smell a 2400. No…I didn’t complete my essay…Writing doesn’t matter so much anyway. I just want that 1600 (verbal/math). If I get anything lower than 2300, I’ll take it again.</p>

<p>EDIT:O yeah…disdainful…That’s what I picked. The passage section in question seemed mildly defiant at best, but it was absolutely disdainful.</p>

<p>Sorry for the double post</p>

<p>would 2 wrong and 1 left blank be at least 780 on the math section?</p>

<p>i hope 6-7 wrong in writing is around like 740 or 750</p>

<p>defiant=characterized by defiance; boldly resistant or challenging
disdainful=scornful, contemptuous, having or showing arrogant superiority </p>

<p>Did he boldy resist (defy) TV, no. BUT scornful certainly carries a harsher connotation than the author intended for the passage. its not like the guy hated TV, he simply thought it was (for lack of a better word) “stupid” because everything came in slides, instead of the excitement of life-experiences</p>

<p>jsmith. 2 wrong and 1 blank is below 780. i took the jan. test, got one wrong in math and that was a 780, so for the same scale that would have been like 740</p>