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@Vandy12020 It was not directed at you, but to another poster whose many tr0ll responses I deleted.

Guys Sorry who got 800Math did u put x-16 or x-18??

@Kombeler That one was x-18

Accidentally posted this in international, though I don’t suppose it would evoke any much of a different response, I thought it would be good to get varying opinions.

I’d like advice if anyone is willing to help. I missed my target by 100 points for my first time. I wanted to get a 2000 and got only a 1900 (600 CR, 660 M, 640 W with 11 E :slight_smile: ). Any tips for how to improve each section?

If it was your first time, then just retaking it can help quite a bit because now you are used to the test.

Then for prep, focus on what you got wrong or skipped rather than what you got correct. Don’t worry about the essay - you did great on that. To find out what you missed or skipped go ahead and download and print out your online score report because it has a detailed breakdown of your test for each section, including types of question and degree of difficulty. If you study that report in detail you will have a LOT of insight into what you can improve upon. You might find, for instance, that your 640 in Math was the result of skipping a bunch of questions rather than getting anything wrong. So you were too cautious. Practice being a bit more assertive on those particular questions. Your writing score may have been because you tanked one type of question but got everything else correct. So focus on that one type of question in your prep. For crit reading you may have discovered that you tanked the reading passages but got the other part correct. So focus on the passages in your prep.

The blue book is an excellent source so continue to use it if you have any incomplete sections remaining. If not then go online and get good recommendations for other types of prep guides.

Then practice away.

If you are retaking next week I’d strongly recommend getting that online report TODAY and understanding by TONIGHT what you need to focus on. You have one week so your prep needs to be very, very focused. If you are retaking in October obviously you have a lot more time to find prep materials, etc.

Good luck!

Guys, if you didn’t miss any writing mc, can you please confirm whether there were 4 NE or 5 NE? Thank you!

@Terraform Why is the answer to the Roger Ebert question profound? Roger Ebert says “The nature of the medium prevents it from moving beyond craftsmanship to the stature of art” I would have thought productive because this line sounds like he thinks it’s all a waste of time

I’m a parent and didn’t take the test (nor did D2 share this answer with me). I also don’t know the other choices. But the word “profound” is from the Latin “profundis” meaning “depth” (or “deep”). So symbolically, a “profound” statement would have more depth and insight than a non-profound one. Hope that helps.

@Mamelot Thank you for your explanation. Why is productive not the correct answer?

Well, is Ebert being dismissive of the medium or is he rendering an insightful observation about its limitations? The first might suggest “productive”. The second “profound”.

But again, I haven’t read the exact question.

@Mamelot The only reference to Ebert is a quote from him that says: “The nature of the medium prevents it from moving beyond craftsmanship to the stature of art”

The question asks what is he least likely to think about the “huge amount of thought and creativity encoded on to that little silver disc”

Sounds like he thinks that thought and creativity is futile

Profound. As in a profound statement. A thought-provoking statement. Something with insight?

Ah, got it. Didn’t realize it was about the DVD disc and digital technology. I seem to recall that Ebert was no fan of the new technology when it came out. He and Gene Siskel were much more into film as an art form. I don’t think you need this info. though to answer the question.

Assuming that one of the two mentioned - profound vs. productive - is the correct answer, let’s look at Ebert’s words and see which one fits better. We know what “profound” means in the context of a thought: deep, insightful, thought-provoking, etc. are all great synonyms. “Productive” means to produce easily, or economically, or similar. Someone who is productive gets more done in an hour, productivity increases in a business mean more profit for the owner, that sort of thing.

So Ebert is saying, I think, that digital technology (the “medium” that brings the form i.e. “movie making” to the audience) limits the thought and creativity behind movie-making. He’s not ruling out that movies produced using this technology can’t be enjoyable (no comment about that) nor that they can’t exhibit some skill or craftsmanship (definitely implies that they can). But they can’t go beyond that to the stature of an artistic piece - something that would tend to inspire deep thoughts or insight. Implied here seems to be that digital movie-making is sacrificing profundity for something else. Is it cost reduction? Fewer mistakes on the cutting room floor? Not sure - he doesn’t say. But “productivity” would be the word I’d use to address those specific things (they all translate into a higher bottom line). So I’d argue that Ebert is least likely to characterize the “huge amount of thought and creativity encoded onto that little silver disc” as “Profound”.

Does that make sense?