<p>@ Novastudent
My understanding of McIntire selection is they look at the SAT for quantitative ability (i.e your math score), so if you don’t have it but prove such ability otherwise, through taking and doing well in Calc 1 &2 for example, then it might make up for it a little bit. As far as an A.S degree, I don’t have one either as I am applying from another four year university. I think it is probably more important to meet prereqs. </p>
<p>My stats:
GPA: 3.93, applying from GMU, econ major
SAT: 2090, internships at 2 financial companies, essays were safe
Biggest drawback: I intend to test out of the language prereq (natively fluent in Hindi and Urdu), which they might ding me for bc I haven’t take past HS spanish</p>
<p>Edit: Post #101 YAAAAAY</p>
<p>I honestly doubt the green check means you’ve been accepted.</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>Because I have a green check, and I am too pessimistic to believe that I have been accepted.</p>
<p>lol, it definitely does not mean you are accepted. No one said that…or I have a different definition of ‘on the bubble’</p>
<p>Novastudent: I applied from an SEC school (not Vandy) with a 3.9 in the honors program. Was a bit lazy in high school, so my grades didn’t stack up to my test scores (32 ACT) as a senior. Leadership in residence hall association, fraternity, student government. I think what helped my application the most was my “Why McIntire/career plans” essay. I was very specific about what I wanted to do and I think that focus and knowledge came through in the essay.</p>
<p>JohnnyBazooka: They won’t ding you for not taking any language - I tested out of Spanish at my last school and so I hadn’t taken any since junior year of HS. However, if accepted you’ll need to show proficiency in a language in order to enroll.</p>
<p>And chopstix is correct, the green check/circle has no meaning on your status. Y’all are just gonna have to wait until a couple weeks from now, lol. I know it sucks.</p>
<p>@x0chopstix0x</p>
<p>People have been speculating about it for quite a few pages.</p>
<p>Knights09 and JohnnyBazooka, thanks for the info! </p>
<p>I don’t think the language has a negative impact if you already speak Hindi and Urdu.</p>
<p>I took calc 1 and stats, A grade on both. My first year I took 2 developmental maths just because I wanted to (forgot all that algebra), now I realize that might not look great on my transcript.</p>
<p>In other news, if McIntire is consistently ranked #1 or 2 undergraduate business school by BusinessWeek for the last 7 years, why do you guys suppose less than 300 students apply each year??? Transfermer says she thinks it’s because students are intimidated/discouraged by the low acceptance rate. But we know that’s not true… that doesn’t stop tens of thousands of students applying to Harvard at a 6% acceptance rate. It’s not the small city either (think Harvard again)… A few business students I know applying to Georgtown & UVA take gtown as their top choice…</p>
<p>Why do you suppose?</p>
<p>Not to sound cynical, but Businessweek rankings are a complete joke. They ranked Notre Dame above Wharton in terms of undergrad business, just to give an example.</p>
<p>GregFields,</p>
<p>I agree… to a point. What rankings/sites do you use? I try to look up stats in job placement, avg salary, etc. I haven’t found a good site yet that has all the data for the unis I want… The business sites supposedly get all the raw data then base their rankings from that.</p>
<p>Where are you? I’m in Zurich, it’s my lunch break :)</p>
<p>Well, here’s the thing about rankings: people discriminate according to them, and that is the unfortunate state of the world. A student at gtown could know nothing about business, but would be preferred over a brilliant student at ODU just because gtown has a better “brand,” assuming he/ she has a good gpa and degree. That happens because the human mind prefers have to have neat rankings (USNews, but also GPA and SAT) that can tell us with supposed accuracy the relative abilities of an individual. In reality, such rankings can’t exist, because people and institutions are too complex to be broken down into a number, and such metrics are open to a large number of distortions. You guys should check out “Outliers” by Malcolm Gladwell. Basically, while college is important in determining success to a degree, your institution only has to be good enough, not world class. Essentially, not attending Harvard doesn’t ban you from success in your field, provided the college you do attend gives you a solid education that helps you thrive in it. </p>
<p>@ NS, I don’t think enough people know about it. Everyone knows about Harvard, few know of a specific school in Harvard and its merits as an institution in terms of professors, material, etc. Everyone knows about UVA, few know about McIntire, ICE, and the professors that make it a great department.</p>
<p>^ I love Malcolm Gladwell! Just finished Outliers over the weekend, actually. :)</p>
<p>Yes, the BusinessWeek rankings are not considered to be truly representative of schools’ place in the rankings. However, I’m not going to stop myself from claiming to go to the #2 b-school in the country.</p>
<p>I will say that for finance-related positions, McIntire is probably a top 5 undergrad business school (Wharton, Haas, Stern, Ross). Since 75% of McIntire has finance as one of their concentrations, we do okay ;). Beyond ICE, I think McIntire distinguishes itself by being solely undergrad. I love the fact that there aren’t MBAs running around the building.</p>
<p>@ Knights09, and that’s why I’m applying!</p>
<p>Also, if you have taken any, how are the real estate and private equity courses? Or is that what you take next year? Also what is your opinion of Commercial Law I&II and the Business Tax courses for non accounting majors?</p>
<p>@thejosher, probably one of the best nonfiction writers out there</p>
<p>Well, Commercial Law I is a required course so you’ll have to take it. ;)</p>
<p>I haven’t taken any real estate or PE courses. Your third year is pretty much spoken for as far as classes go. ICE is 12 credits in the fall and if you want to concentrate in either accounting or finance you have to take Intermediate Accounting I as well, so that’s 15 credits. In the spring, ICE is 9 credits, but there are several required classes depending on your concentrations (4 credits for finance, 3 for accounting - not sure about the other ones).</p>
<p>I am currently on the waitlist for the intro real estate class for the fall and I hope to take the PE class in the spring. As far as the Tax class goes (I assume you are talking about Federal Taxation), I’m pretty sure you need to have taken Intermediate Accounting II to take it, and I’d probably stay away anyways. Not something you want bogging down fourth year, haha. </p>
<p>That being said, I may be taking it in the fall just to knock out my accounting concentration and free up my schedule for the spring.</p>
<p>So, how important is the letter of recommendation? i applied right before the deadline and didn’t have time to get one. The website said it wasn’t required, but will it completely kill my chances if I have an otherwise pretty great application? (high gpa, high test scores, etc.)? Any thoughts?</p>
<p>lala,
I definitely don’t think this will ruin your chances. I think of them as a red light/green light sort of deal. If the committee finds that you have a strong application, and then read a great letter of rec. it will be an extra green light to possibly admit you. I think it could arouse some concern if you have a good application and have a “this student was pretty good” recommendation. That said, it gives them another angle from which to look at your application. They can see more of who you are rather than just the numbers, sort of like the essays. </p>
<p>However, I don’t think it will make or break an application. Furthermore, they don’t require the letter of rec so it definitely won’t kill your chances especially if you have a good app. :)</p>
<p>I agree with Mendel! Except it could be a yellow light sort of thing too. My sister worked in admissions once and said that if your application was right on the border in terms of GPA and test scores, they would look more closely at other parts of your application like your essays and recommendations. But she worked with freshman apps mostly so it could be completely different for transfers. And like Mendel said, it’s not required! So it definitely can’t make or break your application.</p>
<p>I saw the link on the transfer blog so here I am!!
Applying for McIntire!!
STATs:
Fatal Drawback: an international applicant
TOEFL:114
GPA:4.0 with around 80 credits (Since I will choose finance concentration if admitted, as suggested, I took additional Math (Cal 1,2,3, DE) and am taking Linear Algebra; also finished the cs course, public speaking, business communication & ethics)<br>
SAT:R:650 Math:800
Very Strong Recs
Great essays, I think.
Good ECs but not phenomenal at all
I know it’s extremely competitive for international applicants so I don’t have high expectations.
Best of luck to all!!!</p>
<p>Hope UVA makes the transfer announcements this Friday! I am applying for admission as a second-year at the College of Arts and Sciences. Here is a bit about my applicatioin:</p>
<p>GPA: 4.0 at a Virginia CC. Due to military/AP credit that UVA won’t accept, I’ll be sending over 38 credits on my transcript even though I’ll have my A.S.
SAT: Took it in 1999 and received: 700 Verbal, 710 Math, 710 Writing.
High School: Again, it was 10 years ago but- 3.8ish GPA. Top 6% out of 475+ class size. 5 or so APs.
Recs: Sent over 1. Didn’t see it but the Prof said it was “pretty kick-ass.”
Essays: They were decent. Nothing great and nothing that I think would hurt me. Safe.
Potential Hooks: Non-traditional age (29). Military veteran with a bunch of awards I used to supplement my app. I have every core competency requirement complete except for second writing and NW perspective (which I will complete both with one course)
Potential drawbacks: No honors courses and no science/labs. I work a full-time job during the day and had much difficulty in scheduling courses. I am going to major in the physical sciences so I will fulfill that req at UVA (Although this could look bad!)
ECs: I work 40+ a week and take 14 credit hours. ECs?? None. Although I listed my job and a few of my favorite hobbies. Hope this doesn’t hurt me too much. There’s rent to pay!</p>
<p>I am very excited/anxious to get my results. It will help me start making related decisions. Wish everyone the best. Peace.</p>
<p>Damn Jeremystory those are some good stats. Where are you applying from? I am wondering if they count you as OOS even if you are applying from somewhere in VA. My guess is it could go either way: while “in state privileges” are tied to VA residency, if you’re applying from NOVA or a CC I can’t imagine they wouldn’t take that into consideration.</p>
<p>Holy…both of you guys have amazing stats. Haha ahh I really hope decisions come out this Friday as well so I can concentrate more on my finals Y_Y He hasn’t updated that blog in such a long time, I would be happy with just a “We’re still working” post.</p>