Ok, directed at UT students

<p>Just tossing this out there. Any favorite classes you would recommend taking? any professors you recommend meeting? Anything interesting that a possible longhorn for the class of 2013 might want to know?</p>

<p>If you are smart, unsure about a specific major to study, or want a great undergraduate education that looks great for graduate schools like Med, Law, etc. look into the Plan II Honors program.</p>

<p>I'm sure that I want to do a government major, but I'm not sure whether I would even like to take those extra science classes that are required in a Plan II major. Would it be worth taking Plan II and Government, or should I just apply to Liberal Arts Honors alone?</p>

<p>Depends what your future goals are. If you want to take that Government degree and apply for Law school, Plan II (with the extra science classes) would be better than LAH. Plan II w/ Govt. is an extremely good combo.</p>

<p>I've heard from people in law school / graduated from law school that they only really care about your GPA and LSAT score. I doubt a good law school is going to deny you admission if you have a really high GPA and LSAT score. Plan II might effect on the fence decisions, but so do extracurriculars.</p>

<p>Plan II is also a major so you will be double majoring already increasinig your workload. Also if your science isn't that good, it would just end up bringing down your GPA in the end. Liberal Arts Honors is like a FIG, and requires no second major commitment (unlike business honors and plan II), and allows for you to apply to honors classes which are smaller than regular ones (idk about the difficulty level though).</p>

<p>Plan II does have more prestige though and if your not planning on doing law, then definately go Plan II. Just a note though, I've heard usually if you apply to both and plan II takes you, then LA Honors doesn't and same for the other way around. But I would get mroe information on this so you don't have to choose as of this moment on which one your applying for.</p>

<p>Plan II does not have any extra science classes. The Plan II science classes simply replace the otherwise required science credits. Besides, the Plan II science classes tend to be targeted at Plan II liberal arts majors, so they would be easier for someone who isn't really into science. They are more theoretical and less practical than the other science classes.</p>

<p>If science isn't your thing, Plan II would actually help you out. If you decide you want to do something in science, they let you take the standard science classes to replace your Plan II science credits.</p>

<p>what's the difference b/w liberal arts honors and plan ii honors? is one more difficult to get into than the other? does one hold more prestige than the other?</p>

<p>The freshman liberal arts honors program is taking honors sections of regular UT courses. Plan II students take special Plan II courses. You can't participate in both. However, there is a departmental honors program in most departments, and you can do both that and Plan II if I'm not mistaken. But it usually isn't difficult for Plan II kids to take LAH classes and vice versa. I'm a Plan II entering freshman and I'm taking a LAH class this fall.</p>

<p>I would say that Plan II is more difficult to get in to, but I have never seen any data on LAH so I can't say for sure. But I would absolutely say that Plan II is much more prestigious around campus and in the world.</p>

<p>Plan II is deifnately more prestigous. theloneranger basically summed it up, but also note that Plan II is a major, while LAH is not (it just allows you to take some honors classes afaik).</p>

<p>Jchu41: I know of at least one student who was accepted to both and interestingly enough picked LAH. At the LAH parent meeting of the colloquium they said that students are frequently accepted to both and most often pick Plan II.</p>

<p>If you have AP credits for science, you don't need to take college science if you are in Liberal Arts Honors but you still need to take college science classes if you are in Plan II.</p>

<p>ok, all of these posts are very helpful. does anyone have any sort of document that cites perhaps how difficult getting admittance into Plan II/ LAH is?</p>


<p>i would suggest going to the Plan II webpage. click on either the "Resources for Applicants" or the "Admissions Process" links on the left side of the home page</p>

<p>I don't have any specific stats, but I attended the Honors Colloquium recently, and it was stressed again and again that Plan II is ridiculously selective. As in, people get rejected from Plan II but accepted to every single Ivy.</p>

<p>The reason? 40% of the admissions decision is based SOLELY on your 2 essays. Your ENTIRE academic record (GPA/Test Scores/Rank) is only worth 20%.</p>

<p>In short, it's verrrrry subjective and heavily favors writing/humanities types over math/science types.</p>

<p>Which is why it's in the College of Liberal Arts...</p>

<p>wow, i had no idea that Plan II was anywhere close to being as selective as the ivy league schools. I think that the low weight on test scores is good, because I'm not sure that my 1320 Math and Reading score is good enough to get me in. I am fairly capable of writing a good essay though</p>

<p>right, loneranger, but like you said, Plan II specifically is even less math/science than other liberal arts programs (LAH). Plus there's that big senior thesis at the end! </p>

<p>biggest perk I learned from the Plan II director and students in it: HUGEEE study abroad benefits. There's tons of money for SA lying around the administration specifically for Plan II students only.</p>