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That was a little different and I think this one needs a gentle touch.</p>
<p>This kind of senseless murder of a visiting international student isn’t really that common.</p>
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<p>You have no authority to classify anyone in this country as any particular race. Your opinion (as those on this thread who would label the killers), is irrelevant. Obama has publicly stated that he is black, regardless of the fact that his mother is ostensibly white.</p>
<p>Obama has called himself both black and biracial. For those who are biracial, it’s often much easier to just classify yourself by what others see you as to avoid dealing with a bunch of questions. I normally call myself white despite the fact that I’m half Hispanic because it’s easier. A lot of my biracial friends do the same thing. </p>
<p>Not that race is relevant to this at all. Just throwing that out there.</p>
<p>BTW, we do not need to classify anybody, they classify their person themselves, very clearly so, no leaving any doubts in our minds. Also, they are very happy to classify ALL of us, classify and DIVIDE to their liking and advantage, works beautifully, like knife thru the butter, the melted one, not the one from the freezer…very smooth approach to buying votes, millions of them…</p>
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<p>some sure tried hard in the Martin case when there was absolutely no evidence…it was what gave the story legs…</p>
<p>…hard to believe some are so fooled by our current mainstream media…</p>
<p>…OH, yes, HE called himself whatever, I will believe in these speeaches, stopped listenning to people like him about 55 years ago, all you need is couple sentences and you know exactly who he is and what you will hear in the rest of the speech, very predictable and has been used over and over, PLEASE, go back to the history books, way back century ago, very worthwhile to learn what has happened next after those speeches…Best of luck, we are almost there, at the pick of the deepest hole (nope, no contradiction of terms, some history books might mention this also)</p>
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<p>I don’t think you understand what a sociopath is. It is not someone with poor impulse controls or someone who needs stimulus. It is someone who lacks empathy and/or a conscious. Teenagers are young and immature, it does not mean that they lack empathy. In that case, wouldn’t babies be classified as being sociopaths? Babies need stimulus and can be impulsive just as you say.</p>
<p>MiamiDAP, I must say that it’s pretty easy to predict what you’ll say in your next sentence, too; not that there was a sentence in that last post as far as I could tell.</p>
<p>Can we not demonized sociopathy? It is a medical condition, with which one could still live a kind, productive life. There are some rather likable individuals out in the world with the diagnosis. They don’t deserve to be associated with this sort of behavior.</p>
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<p>Read more: [Black</a> teen who murdered Australian posted racist Tweets | The Daily Caller](<a href=“Black teen who allegedly murdered Australian jogger posted racist Tweets | The Daily Caller”>Black teen who allegedly murdered Australian jogger posted racist Tweets | The Daily Caller)</p>
<p>I said that bi-racial individuals, not all, inevitably accept the classification that is placed on them. I am sure Obama was not the first person to describe him as black. I have a niece who is bi-racial who has been called black multiple times and she is only 3. So, do we blame her when she accepts that social classification? To me, she is bi-racial.</p>
<p>Romanigypsyeyes stated it best!</p>
<p>Read Born for Love: Why Empathy is Essential and Endangered by Bruce D Perry (MD and PhD) and Maia Szalavitz
It’s a fascinating book that covers the topics related to incidents like these.</p>
<p>I guess I should have known better and not started this thread in the first place. I did not intend it to be political in nature. The idea that anyone could view the event as a hate crime never even occurred to me. </p>
<p>I just had trouble processing this event. Usually, there’s some real motive for a killing–even if it’s just an argument that escalates and spins out of control. Here, if the facts are as they are alleged, the deceased jogger and his alleged murderers did not exchange a single word. As the victim’s father said, it’s a senseless crime and trying to make sense of it is a certain path to insanity. </p>
<p>I just can’t get my head around the fact that 3 kids from a small town could murder someone “for fun.” </p>
<p>My heart goes out to the vicim’s parents. They must be devastated. It also goes out to his girlfriend of 4 years and her family, who live in the community where this occurred. </p>
<p>To a lesser extent, my heart goes out to the parents and families of the accused. To me, the most poignant statement from them was that from Evans’ sister, who doesn’t even try to say he is isn’t guilty but says he wasn’t really a bad kid; he just got caught up with a group of kids who were gangster wannabes.I’m not saying that’s necessarily the case–just that she seemed genuine and heartbroken.</p>
<p>“How can teenagers be so heartless?” </p>
<p>How can adults be so heartless? You see Asad, an adult, in Syria, Ayman al-Zawahiri and Laden, both adults, in Afghanistan, and you ask how teenagers can be so heartless? Or take for example the parents of 8 year-old girls in Yemen that forcefully marry them off to some sexual predator in return for a handsome profit. Cruelty does not pertain necessarily to age, it pertains to some people in general.</p>
<p>Of course I’m not saying that what the teenagers did was acceptable, and I pray for the family affected by this.</p>
<p>Many posts on this thread thread certainly illustrate that empathy is endangered. The picture that comes to mind is the crowd of villagers with torches and pitchforks running down the “other.”</p>
<p>God bless Allen West, a great American.</p>
<p>[Allen</a> West on ‘bored’ teen murderers | The Daily Caller](<a href=“Allen West on ‘bored’ teen murderers: ‘Who will President Obama identify with in this case?’ | The Daily Caller”>Allen West on ‘bored’ teen murderers: ‘Who will President Obama identify with in this case?’ | The Daily Caller)</p>
<p>Jonri, why can’t you fathom that this event could be viewed as a hate crime???</p>
<p>[Black</a> teen who murdered Australian posted racist Tweets | The Daily Caller](<a href=“http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/21/black-teen-who-murdered-australian-jogger-posted-racist-tweets/]Black”>http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/21/black-teen-who-murdered-australian-jogger-posted-racist-tweets/)</p>
<p>I have to amend my post #113. The sister has now said things I have less sympathy with.</p>
<p>As the result of her statement, I am now even more convinced that Jones is white. She basically said he was getting better treatment because he is white. And FWIW, even Limbaugh, who is trying to make this into a racial attack, admits that one of them is white.</p>
<p>Now, I don’t want to get into that kettle of fish, in part because it’s political and barred by TOS. But again, far from what I can see, there is one white, one black and one biracial defendant.</p>
<p>If the one who picked out the victim was the one who sent the racist Tweets, then it certainly could be a hate crime and should be investigated as such.</p>
<p>riprorin, is that all you’ve got? Seriously? That is a LOT less than what George Zimmerman said about “f-ing punks” who are “a-holes who always get away.” Read the comments in the article you linked if you want to see racism at work. Or try being a young African-American male in a place like Oklahoma. In other words, try a little empathy.</p>
<p>And again, in case it is not clear–I am NOT AT ALL excusing what these young men did. I am only suggesting that perhaps at least one of them had reason to not be fond of white people, and that is why he put out those tweets.</p>