<p>^^^ I don’t have the stomach to carry out what needs to happen to get the info we need. Thank goodness our military and president do.</p>
<p>I don’t know what is worse – to think that the Pakistani govt was totally aware of his presence and didn’t tell us or totally unaware of his presence.</p>
<p>performersmom, it’s not clear yet if the crucial bits of information came from interrogators using torture. An AP story says that “Mohammed did not reveal the names while being subjected to the simulated drowning technique known as waterboarding, former officials said. He identified them many months later under standard interrogation”, but the same story quotes a retired CIA officer extolling the results of the black ops sites.</p>
<p>^The article that I read seemed to indicate that a form of torture may have led them to the courrier anyway, even though he didn’t mention this courrier by his correct name. I wonder if and/or when they will reinstate some of the “aggressive” interview techniques that they have since prohibited?</p>
<p>This just in from Rush Limbaugh’s radio show yesterday:</p>
<p>“President Obama single-handedly came up with the technique in order to pull this off,” Limbaugh said on Monday. “You see, the military wanted to go in there and bomb as they always do. They wanted to drop missiles and drop bombs and a number of totally destructive techniques here. But President Obama, perhaps the only qualified member in the room to deal with this, insisted on the Special Forces. No one else thought of that. President Obama. Not a single intelligence adviser, not a single national security adviser, not a single military adviser came up with the idea of using SEAL Team 6 or any Special Forces.”</p>
<p>Surprisingly, even Rush gave Obama “high praise”…</p>
<p>I’ve listened to Rush’s show on this and for those of you who don’t listen to him, I’ll just say the above quote needs to be heard ‘in context’ to understand what Rush was really saying. I won’t go into it since it’d get political real quickly.</p>
<p>uscd, will you PM me the subtext to his comments?</p>
<p>I think it’s pretty clear what Rush was really saying just from reading the quote in post #244. </p>
<p>It’s interesting to me that he feels that people are representing things this way.</p>
<p>Gotcha’. It’s sometimes difficult to tell sarcasm in print. … unless it’s followed by NOT! ;)</p>
<p>We Finally Got Him!</p>
<p>Okay, I was definitely duped*?!&$… I should have known better…</p>
<p>Apparently, you weren’t the only one:</p>
<p>[Bin</a> Laden news finds pundits forsaking usual comfort zones | The Upshot Yahoo! News](<a href=“http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20110503/bs_yblog_upshot/bin-laden-news-finds-pundits-forsaking-usual-comfort-zones]Bin”>http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20110503/bs_yblog_upshot/bin-laden-news-finds-pundits-forsaking-usual-comfort-zones)</p>
<p>My older child almost cried when President Obama gave his speech. Its that good!</p>
<p>A lot of young people seem to be having emotional reactions, as evidenced by how many are a part of the celebrations. Think, when they were 6-10 years old, the attacks happened. Ever since, Osama bin Laden has been this “boogeyman” that has characterized a large part of national fear for most of these young people’s lives. Sunday night, the President just told them that the boogeyman is dead.</p>
<p>Read WSJ and MarketWatch columnist Brett Arend’s opinion piece today about man-in-the-street reactions to the Bin Laden episode. It’s quite thought provoking.</p>
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<p>My exact thoughts, with the addition that I found the press coverage to be lacking in decorum. Of course, we all know that the difference between media coverage and reality shows is non-existant. With outfits such as Huffington Post being considered news providers and buffoons such as Beck and Limbaugh on one side and hordes of even less desirable clowns on the other side of the aisle, it seems that everything has to be cynically exploited. </p>
<p>However, if this is expected from the members of the press who pollute our airwaves, one could have hoped for the major networks to adopt a different path that entailed toning down the reports of jubilation, which often seemed excessive and in poor taste.</p>
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A lot of people felt a sense of closure that a mass murderer and supporter of an oppressive and murderous regime has been eliminated. People were pretty happy when Hitler died, too. Bin Laden wasn’t as destructive as Hitler, but he tried to be.</p>
<p>College students today were 8- to 12-year-olds when they saw the Twin Towers and Pentagon attacked and reduced to rubble. They saw innocent people jumping to their deaths from upper story windows, the grief of emergency workers’ families after those public servants died trying to rescue people injured in the attacks, their parents and other adults crying and mourning this unimagineable tragedy. Those children read and heard about the passengers of a plane who died preventing terrorists on the plane from hurting more people. And they also heard and read about a man who planned this attack, a man who declared war on the United States and who expressed pride in murdering thousands of men, women, and children – a man who mocked the United States’ grief and who eluded capture for ten long years.</p>
<p>This was a life-changing event for all of us, but expecially for these scarred and traumatized kids.</p>
<p>And people are surprised these kids reacted to Bin Laden’s death the way they did?</p>
<p>I don’t think it is unrealistic to think that the Pakistani govt didn’t know that OBL was under their noses. It just plays out that it is a very unsophisticated government with many factions that are able to run amuck. They do not have the resources that the US have.</p>
<p>^ I could buy it if it were some remote mountain village. But this was a huge building with high walls 300m from their West Point, 35 miles from the capital and they don’t have the resources to do a single search in 6 years?</p>
<p>“College students today were 8- to 12-year-olds when they saw the Twin Towers and Pentagon attacked and reduced to rubble.” Also they will be the first group of people to go to war if the war escalades. So they deserve the right to chant for peace.</p>