Oscars 2017

Now I really feel for Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway. This clip will play forever and his and Faye’s names will always be associated with “the biggest Oscars snafu ever!” Who would want that? Actors want to be famous for achievements, not the mistakes of others. Very unfortunate for them both, as well as the two film casts.

Got to hand it to Kimmel: “I blame Steve Harvey” was a pretty funny line-a lot of people would have been speechless.

I too woke up to the mistake. Very awkward indeed.

Okay, now I’m reading it wasn’t the only blunder of the evening. How creeped out would you feel if you were Jan Chapman?

http://variety.com/2017/film/awards/oscars-in-memoriam-segment-janet-patterson-wrong-photo-jan-chapman-1201997597/

I enjoyed Jimmy Kimmel, but I was a little uncomfortable when he congratulated a couple of artists who got nominated in spite of the fact that “no one” saw their movie.

You know what would have made Halle Berry’s hair look really cool? Something that made it look like actual healthy hair, or that at least made it move when she moved her head.

Halle Berry is beautiful enough that she can wear anything and still look beautiful, including that ridiculous wig or (maybe) cemented hair. I’m sure it will look good in photographs, but live it was awfully distracting.

Totally agree, and I am friends with Benj Pasek’s mom, who had some great moments on camera when her son shared the win in that category. (He was the one who thanked his mother for letting him quit soccer to act.) However, I would prefer it if Max Martin and his never-ending string of Swedish proteges vanished from the face of the earth, so I would have felt ambivalent about them sharing the award with Timberlake.

One of my friends has a son in his mid-20s trying to work his way into the film industry in LA. E! PAID him to be at the after party - not sure what his job was. My friend saw him during the TV coverage of the party. Kind of cool!

I thought it was funny that a bunch of people were sporting Halley Berry’s old cut (the pixie). It’s a great look if you’ve got good bones. I didn’t mind her hair, but I think she looks better with the old cut.

Lol just saw a tweet that said “it’s true, Warren Beatty did screw everyone in Hollywood.” But I’m glad people don’t seem to be blaming him. He looked frankly baffled and I don’t envy his position of having to make a choice when he saw something was wrong. I actually think it’s really interesting how it played out, with the voiceover immediately saying “This is La La Land’s seventh win…” and the orchestra playing the LLL music. They didn’t jump into the Moonlight music, so it clearly was a secret to virtually everyone. The Academy even tweeted congrats and then had to delete it. HuffPost coincidentally published an article two days ago about what would happen if the wrong name was read at the Oscars, and it said the two people who know the real winners are on hand and would immediately go on stage to correct it. I wonder what took so long and how they let three people make speeches.

I liked Kimmel. He made it look very natural and easy. The most poignant moment at my viewing party was when they read Asghar Farhadi’s statement about why he chose to not attend.

Is it fair to say that La La Land came back from a 2-0 halftime deficit only to lose 4-3 in extra time?

(Please tell me y’all get the joke…)

Jimmy Kimmel has such a great and calming temperament in chaos.

I’ve watched the Oscars every year since 1965, when I convinced my parents to let me stay up to see if Julie Andrews would win. I can’t believe that THIS was the year I decided to turn off the TV at 11:30.

They seem to have handled it all as well as it could have been handled. I give Warren Beatty credit for hesitating. He knew something didn’t look right. Most of us can sympathize with that feeling. And we aren’t feeling that way in front of half a billion people!

I liked Halle’s hair. It’s a look I see more of lately. I just think we can watch how we react to the natural style. I was more curious how Casey Affleck decided on what seemed to me to be a sloppy look, ill-fitting suit.

It seems to me the LA and industry press is giving Beatty leeway for receiving the wrong card. I don’t think it will haunt him. He wisely refused to make more than a simple statement to the press (LAT) after.

Jumping into this discussion late but
Loved Halle Berry’s dress and whole look
Usually like what Viola has to say but did not like her “we are the only profession that celebrates what it means to live a life” Smacked of self-importance.
Think Casey Affleck has the scruffy beard for a role he is currently filming

Viola looked so beautiful.
It wasn’t so much the beard as the hair and suit, for me. Not the long hair, (ha, I still like long hair on guys,) but the bed-head way he pulled it back. Not that I care that much.

What happened was too bad, especially for Warren and Faye and the LLL people.

For me personally, I was put in the crummy position of having my favorite film lose in bizarre fashion, while my wife cheered loudly when the snafu was discovered and eventual winner Moonlight was announced. She is awesome, but that put me in a mildly foul mood – I went from happy/satisfied to confused to shocked and disappointed. I can’t imagine how awful that must have been for those associated with LLL. They showed a great amount of class and dignity up on stage, given the circumstances. It was a huge upset per se – LLL was the odds-on favorite – magnified by how it went down. “You won, as expected. No, wait…”

Anyway, here is how the BP votes are counted. It is far more complicated than I had thought.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.thewrap.com/oscar-voting-how-best-picture-winner-chosen-short-explainer/amp/

I wonder how many times the film with the most first-place votes didn’t win, and i wonder if that happened last night. PwC, do tell…

I wasn’t curious about “Moonlight” until it won. The only photos I’d seen were the ones in the ocean at night. But apparently the movie is about drug dealers and drug users. I object on principle to anything glorifying or even making drug dealers out to be sympathetic characters. Wrong message on so many levels.

I was thinking about this preferential voting approach. It means that more than 50% of the voters ranking Moonlight higher than La La Land. Could there be strategic voting that hurt La La Land? Well, not by anybody who rated Moonlight as the best, because their votes were counted only for Moonlight. If, however, supporters of all the movies other than La La Land collectively wanted to ensure that La La Land was unlikely to win, they could have all rated it last.

@wisteria100 I think taken in context Viola Davis’ statement can be interpreted differently.

I think when she went on to say “we are the only profession that celebrates what it mean to live a life” she is referencing exactly what she did in Hidden Figures. She celebrated the life of a person who was now deceased who had been overlooked in her own lifetime.

Acting is the only profession that has the capability to do that on such a public scale – Hidden Figures reached millions of people highlighting accomplishments of black women that would never have been brought to light otherwise.

I think the situation was handled horribly. The La La Land people had to be the ones to announce who had really won?? Why didn’t one of the goofballs who made the mistake get up there and do it? I also couldn’t believe how long it took them - those poor guys making acceptance speeches. I don’t know if I would have been as gracious as they were.

“The La La Land people had to be the ones to announce who had really won?? Why didn’t one of the goofballs who made the mistake get up there and do it?”

I think they were trying to and just about to do so but the bald LaLa Land guy kind of took over. He cut them off.