Ovens!

Huh. I don’t think of ovens as noisy appliances.

I’ve got a 30 inch Wolf wall oven, which has been great. No problems at all. Have a large 60 inch Wolf range with two ovens and, it too, has proven to be very reliable. Both are 13 years old.

Convection ovens can be noisy. Are induction cooktops noisy? I have a little one burner for travel, and it is certainly very noisy.

Where we were living before had a convection oven. It wasn’t noisy.

If you don’t have a subscription to Consumer Reports but are thinking right about now it would be nice to take a look, you might be able to access CR online through your library.

http://www.consumersearch.com/wall-oven-reviews
http://reviews.bestbuy.com/3545/abcat0904004/wall-ovens-reviews/category.htm
http://www.bhg.com/kitchen/appliances/wall-oven/
http://bestreviews.com/5-best-wall-ovens?gclid=COy-35m1-MICFYWUfgodZDkADw

My convection oven is not noisy (Thermador), but I have heard others besides this thread complain about the noise. I’m not changing my appliances until they croak. :slight_smile:

The problem with relying on reliability from past performance is that brands get sold, appliances get redesigned, stuff happens, so newer models could be completely different from the past years’ models when it comes to reliability. I have no idea if Thermador’s cooktops are as good now as they used to be 15 years ago…

I wouldn’t depend solely on CR when it comes to cooking appliances. There are too many brands that they don’t even look at. Try Gardenweb, and general googling.

We have two homes. Our winter house in Florida came with the builder’s Kitchen Aid package (double electric wall ovens, electric glass cooktop, dishwasher etc.). The ovens are fine but they are noisy, since the fans continue to blow for quite awhile after you shut off the oven. I put in 30" Wolf double electric ovens in my summer house and love them. They are quieter than the Kitchen aid but still make noise. I love my Wolf 36" gas cooktop.

We have two sets of washer/dryers in the summer home (to cope with all the beach towels and summer company). The set in the garage is Speed Queen commercial grade and it is awesome. Built like a tank and has done three summer seasons of sandy towels and suits like a champ! Inside the house we have the Maytag Bravos (top of the line HE top loader). It works great so far in the summer house. We have a 4 1/2 yr old Maytag Bravos set in the winter house that I just had to put 600$ into to replace the mother board and other parts. I had bought the extended warranty but it expired 7 months ago!

I got this range about four years ago, so mine is an older model, but I still love it: http://www.sears.com/ge-profile-30inch-profile-trade-series-slide-in-electric/p-02237033000P?sid=IDx01192011x000001&kpid=02237033000&kispla=02237033000P&kpid=02237033000&mktRedirect=y The smaller oven is still big enough for roasts and I use that one just about exclusively except for big gatherings. It’s a real energy saver and just right for us.

Whatever you do please don’t get a Viking oven or range. My house had them from a previous model and they are the worst ovens ever. My viking ovens take about 30 minutes to pre-heat. My neighbor has the same exact model and we are both waiting for them to die. In addition, the downdraft fan in my range broke and Viking as discontinued the part. The dealer has been trying an aftermarket parts guy but even he doesn’t have it. What kind of company does that? The downdraft is only ten years old.

My MIL got Viking everything when it was young and cool. They do pack a blast but I noticed that they didn’t have a good simmer. Sometimes, a lot of times, you need a nice low flame. It was just too big!

I still haven’t chosen an oven or range. I did cancel my order for a HE top loading washing machine in favor of a Speed Queen. I was very excited about it but the guy hasn’t called me back so now I’m worried about delivery dates. He had some interesting info about washers: Most machines have a 1/10 to 1/4 HP motor. SQ has a 1/2 HP motor. The lesser motors can’t handle stopping from a high spin and THAT is why there are lid locks, not to save children from drowning (like I thought). The lid locks are electromagnetic and that is why it takes a minute or two to unlock them. They are commonly broken because people get impatient and they cost $200 - $300 to repair. Most machines weigh about 110 lbs, the SQ is 190 lbs. It is the only washer guaranteed for 3 years (but will likely last more than 20). The average HE machine cycle is 70 minutes, the SQ is 28.

Oh, I am such a Luddite and I am so happy to be getting this wonderful, old fashioned machine! It better be coming, the laundry is piling up.

Oh I hope that the Speed Queen works out for you. I do love mine. And yes, the cycles is only 28 minutes which I just love. Laundry is so much faster now.

I did a quick search and saw that AJMadison has them for sale online and they offer free shipping. That may be an option for you if your current guy isn’t able to find one for you. And I saw something about a rebate for $50.

When our youngest left for college, we said goodbye to the big Viking range and instead got what I call the Empty Nest Range. It’s a 30" range with 2 small ovens instead of one big one. The top oven is slim with just one rack, and it’s really the only one I use now other than during holidays. Heats in just five minutes, perfect for baking or broiling for just two people. Uses a lot less energy than the Viking, and has a power boil and true simmer burner on the stove top, with continuous grates.

Walkinghome – ours is also a GE double oven range, slightly different model than yours. Don’t you love it?!

Have you thought about buying a used oven on craigslist that will get you through til you decide on a grand plan for the kitchen?

We’re getting ready to start construction on a new home. Many years ago I cooked professionally and I have always fantasized about having a big Wolf or Garland range. I love the look and thought of it as a hearth for the kitchen. Now that we are nearing the point of having to make decisions I am about 95% sure that I’m going with an induction range (along with a 24" steam oven). With induction you can melt chocolate without a double boiler or leave butter in a pan on low heat all afternoon without having it brown. If you spill something you simply wipe off the (cool) cooktop. The kitchen doesn’t heat up when you’re doing a lot of cooking). I can’t find a single person (online or IRL) who would switch back to gas after having an induction cooktop. (The noise issue some of the older induction cooktops had seems to have been solved.)

It’s so interesting to read the variety of reviews. I had a pair of Maytag Bravos that left detergent residue on my dark items. It was terrible and, after a long fight, Maytag finally refunded my money. I replaced them with speed queens which I’ve had for about 2 months and LOVE them. Love everything about them :slight_smile: We have a double oven (thermador) that’s 16 years old and I’ve been very happy with it. The fan does stay on for awhile after it’s turned off but it’s not particularly loud. I have been disappointed with our kitchen aid dishwasher which I see more as a sanitizer as, if you don’t rinse everything off and it sits for any length of time, it’s still there after going through the wash. Unless something breaks unexpectedly, that will be the next appliance I replace but I’ve yet to find anything that’s consistently reviewed well. Best of luck with all your decisions, Greenwitch.

We got a duel fuel 36" fancy pants range a few years ago.
After using it - why would anyone put a sensitive touch-pad set of electronics frent and center in the heat and steam area.

We have babied the electronics and haven’t had problems, but look omline

If you love to cook, get all gas cooktop with ovens elsewhere.

Interesting - looking online it seems that most oven problems come with using the self-cleaning function. I’ve never used one but it’s super hot, right? Since I’ll probably never use it I can cross off one potential problem.

My Speed Queen is coming today! Since the appliance man has been so helpful I’m going to grill him (hahaha) about ovens. I also have the cell phone number of the man who tried to repair our oven so I will call him too. It’s been easy to live without it so far.

In other appliance advice, we’ve been having some plumbing work done and asked the plumber about getting a tankless hot water heater. He said the electric ones don’t work well and the gas ones need a huge supply line (enough to supply 300,000 btus (or something)). We have gas supply to the area but it’s not sufficient. Our current tank is only 43 gallons and is electric, which has a slow recovery time. It’s also upstairs, on a big shelf in a closet! He just looked at that and shook his head, “they all leak eventually and that’s a bad place for a leak”. So, that will be the next saga.