Overrated and Underrated Top Universities

<p>most overrated by far HARVARD!! how can anyone argue against that, its ranked 1 every year in every poll just becasue of its name. while another ivy, brown is ranked 18th?!?!?, what is that. all the ivies are equal except in business where Penn rules and Engineering where Cornell rules.</p>

<p>most underrated: wake forest and tufts, both are ranked higher than North Carolina chapel hill and are not in the CC top university list.</p>

<p>I disagree. I would say that places like Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell, and maybe Columbia are only held in such high esteem because of their membership in their athletic league.</p>

<p>lol athletic league? if anything duke and stanford are well known because of athletics and academics, maybe gtown to. they are all very deserving schools overshadowed by harvard, seriously if you get into harvard and you applied to all the ivies and got into all you’d pick harvard.</p>

<p>Of course you would, but he was suggesting that all the ivies are equal. I was saying that some of the lower schools are even being bouyed in rankings due to Harvard/Princeton/Yale’s perceived greatness by being in the same athletic league. I personally think they’re all overrated</p>

<p>I didn’t mean anything about athletics. I was simply saying that they would be rated much lower if they weren’t members of that athletic conf.</p>

<p>oh touche’, i agree with that.</p>

<p>Why exactly is grade inflation a bad thing? You don’t have to worry about some number as much and can focus on learning.</p>

<p>Grade inflation can be bad if the school just gives grades away because it would be difficult to differentiate between the duds and the high flyers. But in some cases, grade inflartion is required because the expectations of the faculty and the quality of the students are high that giving students a straight scale grading system would be unfair.</p>

<p>Well, Alexandre, for some professional schools, like medical school, I think they look mainly at the GPA in comparison to people’s GPAs from around the country, so if someone’s school is grade inflated, then they’re at an advantage.</p>

<p>one LAC that is underrated is whitman college, it’s amazing in all regards
as everyone has already said uchicago is also underrated
notre dame way overrated but I don’t care I’m still a fan of the Irish</p>

<p>I don’t see how anyone can think the LACs are overrated. Whenever people talk about “good” schools, all the same names pop up, and very rarely do people consider the top LACs, which actually can provide much better educations for the undergrads than do a lot of the research-oriented “super” universities. A lot of people haven’t even heard of many LACs just because everyone is always obsessed with big name schools, many of which are overrated in terms of the undergrad academic experience.</p>

<p>The top schools for each are the same.</p>

<p>Atlantic Monthly top 10 & PR Selectivity top 10</p>

<ol>
<li>MIT </li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>California Institute of Technology</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
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<p>“I don’t see how anyone can think the LACs are overrated.”</p>

<p>There are a lot of parents, here, that I think overrate LACs. This does, however, balance the scores of Ivy-obsessed students that come to this site. Still, it’d be better if everyone was objective.</p>

<p>“I disagree. I would say that places like Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell, and maybe Columbia are only held in such high esteem because of their membership in their athletic league”</p>

<p>Not really. All of them have the best faculty/students that the world has produced so far…the Ivy league is synoymous with the best of theeeee very best, and that is why they are held in such high esteem! These eight schools are so great because their students/prof have accomplished more than any other schools’ alumni in the world…the best scientists, most CEOs, presidents etc. They wouldn’t be part of the league if they weren’t great schools, since participation in the league was by invitation only…extended only to the most select schools.</p>

<p>^^^LOL!!!</p>

<p>Did u just say that Dartmouth and Brown have the best faculty? </p>

<p>I’m sorry but Dartmouth’s faculty is ranked about 58th, and Browns is barely top 20. Cornell and Columbia are top 15 however for sure. But faculty wise, please, you are speaking out of your bs hole. </p>

<p>BTW, try to come up with an original argument. You read too many broshures. Are you a talking broshure or something? Hey can u sell me some oil? I need an oil change on my car, what brand is the best?</p>

<p>The best faculty are well scattered throughout the US. They have nowhere near the most CEO’s as those are also well distributed with Harvard and Wisconsin tied for #1 with 15 each out of 500.</p>

<p>See the graph</p>

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<p>Actually HPY are synonymous with the best of the best. Columbia, Brown, Cornell, and Dartmouth piggyback. They’re good, but they’re not the god-like behemoths people hold them to be (because of their membership in an athletic conf).</p>

<p>whatever, all you have to say is IVY league and you are set for any job for the next 50 years</p>

<p>Urrr…no.</p>

<p>Like any sufficiently large group, Ivy League graduates contain their share of fools, those whose ambitions become derailed for one reason or another, or who develop personal characteristics that sabotage their careers.</p>

<p>The further out you are from graduation, the more what you have done within the past 5 years will matter, the less your college degree will matter.</p>

<p>Why on earth would anybody think the Penn is overrated?</p>

<p>If I had to rank I’d rank Stanford and Penn as number one.</p>

<p>Here’s an old CC discussionhttp://<a href=“http://www.collegeconfidential.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?757/9364”>www.collegeconfidential.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?757/9364</a> that discusses Penn. There are a few more points I’d add but I get the feeling that people who say Penn is overrated don’t know that much about it! haha</p>

<p>Penn? Are you serious?</p>