<p>You are kidding about that college ranking service thing on the above link?? Just keep hitting the “refresh” button on your browser until your school falls at the number you want it to. Fun to play with, but seems to have no utility (except that I could get my selected school right up there!!!) And for those who said a degree from HPY is an automatic cakewalk into the job market-- not true. A good friend of mine’s nephew- a bright articulate, quite socially appropriate and presentable gentleman with a Harvard degree in hand couldn’t get a job in the financial district in NY (I don’t know all the details-- where he was applying, what kind of job he was looking for, etc) so he went to grad school. Please, no snide comments-I am just pointing out that there are no guarantees in life.
I think it was on this thread that someone made the blanket statement that if you got into HPYS you would “of course” pick Harvard. That is also a generalization. I know kids who have picked other schools over Harvard (ivy and non ivy) for different reasons. Yes, the new College Preference Ranking article that came out puts Harvard at the top, but it still doesn’t mean that 100% of the time students will pick harvard no matter what, all things being equal. By the way, it must be an interesting feeling turning down Harvard-- you get to reject them! :)</p>
<p>Bowtoserenity-
Thanks for the link to the disclaimer-- I didn’t even go that far-- I was having tto much fun clicking the refresh button and then came back here to tell all. Great way to start a Friday --people with a sense of humor! I like that in a website.</p>
<p>jym-
Glad that you liked it I just found my favorite quote on that website:</p>
<p>Why does CRS rank colleges?</p>
<p>It’s a controversial question with a simple answer. We do it because you want us to do it. We are all insecure creatures at heart, needing the reassurance that the decisions we make are the right ones.</p>
<p>With regard to college choice, we give you that reassurance. And it warms our hearts to know that we are providing you the best ranking service that the world can ever hope to obtain.</p>
<p>“whatever, all you have to say is IVY league and you are set for any job for the next 50 years”</p>
<p>I agree. To 99.9% of the public, if you say that you’re from a Ivy League school, they’ll just assume that you’re the cream of the crop. The Ivy leaguers seem to trample all over the other students at the workplace. Of course, there are always good candidates from less priviledged schools, but in general I’ve heard that the promotions, bonuses, window cubicles, loudest applause, etc., all “magically” seem to come the Ivy-ers way.</p>
<p>Fardog - whatever you said seems to be self-evident, and one-off arguments to the contrary don’t make any sense. i.e. “all Ivies have some slackers”…well, duuuhh!..what kind of point is that? The ivies STILL have brightest stars on the planet. CEO of microsoft from Harvard, CEO of Citi-group from Cornell, tons of US presidents from Yale, numerous Nobel laureates and so forth. Anytime I hear Ivy-bashing, it just sounds like Ivy-envy…which gives everyone all the more reason to get an Ivy education…it’s impossible to over-rate it in todays economy.</p>
couldn’t be more wrong
…especially if you go to grad school (which you need for all those high paying jobs you speak of)–then it doesn’t matter where you went to undergrad…</p>
<p>this is a completely impossible thing to evaluated. The reason being, we dont have the same exact person going to a tier 2 college and the same person going to an Ivy or elite university, which is the only real way we could ever know if the school makes a difference. Lets rather say that every individual has at least one school that matches them and will help them be all they can be</p>
<p>Yes I am completely serious. Why would anyone say that Penn is overrated? It seems to me that if Penn were named “Franklin” instead of “The University of Pennsylvania” your stories would be different.</p>
<p>Other than Yalebound’s posts extolling the supposed virtues of the “Revealed Preferences Rankings,” I didn’t recall his other posts. His list of “Ten Most Over-rated” schools, and his oh-so-discerning critical analysis, reveals more about YB than about his over-rated schools.</p>
<p>Warning Will Robinson. Don’t feed the ■■■■■■.</p>
<p>Out of a possible 5 points: U.S. New’s Peer assessment puts Cal (4.8) up near Harvard (4.9); Cornell (4.6); Dartmouth (4.4); and University of Viginia (4.3). Faculty, administrators and others in the know seem to rank these private and Public schools fairly close. With numbers this close you would want to look for a ranking of departments relevant to your interests.</p>
<p>Alexandre, as an example of technological changes having an effect on language and society, the prevalance of digital watches has diminished the utility of the “broken clock/twice a day” adage, along with the word “clockwise.”</p>
<p>Yeah-- less fun with digital watches. My brother used to take his old mickey mouse watch an leave the hands set at 6:30 (I had a Spiro Agnew watch and did the same…)</p>
<p>Mr. B, you forgot a few other top state schools.</p>
<p>Cal-Berkeley has an academic reputation score of 4.8/5.0 (0.1 points behind Harvard, MIT, Princeton, Stanford and Yale but ahead of every other university in the land)</p>
<p>Michigan-Ann Arbor has an academic reputation score of 4.6 (0.1 points behind CalTech and Columbia, tied with Cornell, Chicago, Duke, Penn and Johns Hopkins and ahead of Brown, Dartmouth and Northwestern.</p>
<p>UVA and UCLA have academic reputations scores of 4.3 (0.1 points behing Dartmouth, tied with Carnegie Mellon and ahead of many great universities, like Rice, Georgetown etc…)</p>
<p>UNC-Chapel Hill and Wisconsin-Madison have academic reputation scores of 4.2/50 (tied with Rice and ahead of Emory, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt and WUSL)</p>
--people with a sense of humor! I like that in a website.</p>