<p>I have a question about Oxford’s associate degree which is awarded at the end of the two years to all of the graduates (confirmed by oxford rep). Do medical schools look down on this? On the transcript it is surely going to say: Associate degree - Oxford, BA - Emory.</p>
<p>Anyone with experience in this area?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>bump bump…</p>
<p>call the admission office at a medical school and ask em. just pick one and look it up online.</p>
<p>ok, time for an update…</p>
<p>So i e-mailed about 20 medical schools of varying ‘status’ on usnews adnd found the general consensus (barring none actually) to be that Med schools really don’t care at all if I get an AA/BA at Oxford/Emory or get a BA at emory. All the schools, especially harvard (who was very nice by the way), talked about the degree and school being almost irrelevant and the degree of difficulty and the classes taken, etc. taking prime importance in admissions.</p>
<p>So i guess i got my answer… just wanted to let all other know who were wondering the same thing…</p>
<p>Something to be aware of-if you get an Oxford AA and then transfer to Emory, you will be applying to med school after 1 year at Emory. In my experience as a college prof (who, by the way earned a Ph.D. at Emory), what you were told about the program of study and degree of difficulty being the most relevant issue is true. What you apparently haven’t done is to find out what the perceived level of difficulty is of Oxford vs. Emory. </p>
<p>While Emory advertises Oxford as a portal to Emory and, indeed, most of their graduates go on to Emory successfully, the reality is that most students go to Oxford because they can’t get into Emory and the rigor of the classes will reflect that. If you look at the SAT/GPA stats of entering students at the two institutions, it’s clear that there is a substantial difference. The academic demands at the two places will reflect that, as well. What this means is that when you apply to med school in fall of your senior year, admissions officers will be comparing your 2 years at a less demanding institution and 1 year at a demanding institution with others who have 3 years at a more demanding institution. That will likely make a difference. </p>
<p>I’m not suggesting that Oxford is bad. In fact, they are very good at taking students who where somewhat less capable as freshmen and bringing them to a point where they can be successful at Emory. I’m just suggesting that med school admissions officers will not likely view a Oxford/Emory application as being equivalent to a Emory application. If an Emory admission isn’t in the cards, the Oxford path is a fine way to go; I just think that you would likely need a higher performance at Oxford in those 2 years to be seen as equivalent to a native Emory student.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>Do you still teach at Emory? What are you professor of?</p>
<p>I don’t teach at Emory. I earned my Ph.D. there in 1981. I am a Professor of Psychology at a 4 year state institution in Georgia.</p>
<p>My kid is going to college next year. We briefly considered the Oxford path, simply because it’s much smaller, but my daughter decided not to because of the rigor issue and eventual graduate school. She has applied to Emory and made the first cut for Emory Scholar.</p>
<p>Keep in mind as well…scholarships DO NOT carry over from Oxford. My best friend had the 2nd highest scholarship there. When he came over to Emory, the school only gave him $600. He is now at GSU. I don’t know if this is an issue for you, but it’s something to keep in mind.</p>
<p>well, actually, it depends on what scholarship you are awarded. Oxford gives out 2-year scholarships and 4-year scholarships (which continue on to emory) i think there are 4 types of each… half tuition, full tuition, +books, and everything paid for…</p>
<p>That is true–sorry I didn’t clarify. For example, a courtesy scholarship would carry over, but some merit-based ones do not.</p>
<p>I graduated from Oxford in a year and a half, and I was on the pre-med track. This semester is my first at Emory. The classes at Oxford are without a doubt more challenging than classes at Emory. For example, I took Bio 141 at Oxford in the fall, and the workload/amount of studying for that class is roughly double that of Bio 142 at Emory. The material may be different in the 2nd semester of the sequence, but both classes use the same textbook and the format of the assignments and exams are very similar. However, I have heard from friends in the Business College that the Emory classes are a bit more challenging than similar classes at Oxford.</p>
<p>uh emory med is one of the best med schools in the country, most kids who get into emory med have extremely high mcat scores (natural ability), and superhuman gpas, with killer, almost impossible e.c.s </p>
<p>to get into emory med from emory undergrad doesn’t guarantee or even give you a great chance of getting in.</p>
<p>that’s why tufts is so much better for that. </p>
<p>and I don’t want to insult you or anything but if you got denied going to emory college, and they let you get into oxfod was there a physical limit on the SATs or GPA that you couldn’t surpass or werey ou just plain lazy.</p>
<p>the main factor is super high gpa (like 3.8 at a great school), and superhuman mcat scores (like a 35+/45), with tons of amazing e.c.s</p>
<p>its just so hard to get into, probably harder or equal to getting into the ivies</p>
<p>“and I don’t want to insult you or anything but if you got denied going to emory college, and they let you get into oxfod was there a physical limit on the SATs or GPA that you couldn’t surpass or werey ou just plain lazy.”</p>
<p>I’m not sure who that comment was directed at, given the erratic organization of your post, but if it was for me, then no. None of the above. I was accepted to Emory College and to Oxford College, but I chose to start at Oxford because the science faculty impressed me (from personally talking to them and from hearing about them from other Oxford students). I had decent test scores (SAT: 730 verbal, 630 math; ACT: 35 composite), a perfect GPA (valedictorian of my high school), excellent recommendations, and even better essays (one of the adcom members I spoke with recently remembered reading my essays from 2 years ago). I managed to maintain my GPA while staying active in 4 clubs (VP of one of them) and holding down a position at my church, not to mention playing baseball for 3 years (20+ hours of practice per week plus games) until an injury ended my playing days. So much for the laziness, huh?</p>
<p>Well I waited too long to edit my post above, but there is one mistake…I had a 670 on the SAT math.</p>
<p>go emory football lol definitely doesnt sound lazy to me! oh also a question…u said u graduated from oxford in a year and a half…how/why did u decide to do that? i’m going to be attending oxford this fall and was just wonderin what needs to be done to do that. i dont plan on doing it cuz i personally think i’ll love oxford but just wondering in case. thanks!</p>
<p>I participated in the Post-Secondary Options program in high school, so I took college classes and got high school credit for them. Most of these hours transferred to Oxford, so I was able to satisify all of Oxford’s graduation requirements in 3 semesters. I left early because I was ready for Emory and because Oxford did not offer the first core class for my major (Neuroscience and Behavioral Biology).</p>
<p>As far as attitudes toward Oxford…you’ll really love it, really hate it, or you’ll just live with it, haha. The small size of the school allows you to build close friendships and to get to know your professors well, but it is in the middle of nowhere. There are many clubs and intramural sports to get involved with, but you’d better have a car on campus or you’ll go nuts.</p>
<p>eh it was directd toward the thread starter archdelux</p>
<p>i’m just saying that getting into emory med is extremely hard, and that it takes a superqualified college student to get in.and the first step of getting into emory is having high gpa and high mcat scores then e.c.s. if you don’t have those first two, your profile will get rejected or waitlisted (which is a polite way of saying sorry you’re not going to end up here)</p>
<p>i intern with an orthopedic surgeon and he was very adamant that medical students from emory, while intelligent, had only good textbook knowledge. He said they were very “unrefined” in their skills. He wasn’t too impressed with the students who graduated from there. I dont know one way or the other, but he’s the doctor. Also, people get admitted from the waitlist all the time, just like for undergrad. Not everyone who is accepted matriculates.</p>
<p>emory is one of the best med. schools in the country. that’s just one opinion, so i dunno.</p>
<p>the great thing about emory undergrad is that it has the highest acceptance rate into me d school ( the number of stupids who apply to med school and get in)</p>