Pa. teacher strikes nerve with 'lazy whiners' blog

<p>“A high school English teacher in suburban Philadelphia who was suspended for a profanity-laced blog in which she called her young charges “disengaged, lazy whiners” is driving a sensation by daring to ask: Why are today’s students unmotivated — and what’s wrong with calling them out?”</p>

<p>[Pa</a>. teacher strikes nerve with ‘lazy whiners’ blog - Yahoo! News](<a href=“http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110216/ap_on_hi_te/us_teacher_suspended_blog]Pa”>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110216/ap_on_hi_te/us_teacher_suspended_blog)</p>

<p>It’s ridiculous that she is being called to task for this. From what I read in this article, she spoke the truth. People just don’t like to hear that…</p>

<p>It may be true and people may not want to hear it but she did it in a highly unprofessional way. That calls her professional suitability into question. She says she did it at least partly out of frustration. Self control is an important asset for a teacher.</p>

<p>These free speech issues are really getting a lot of attention in the courts and legal blogs. This should be interesting. If she truly did not identify the school, I think she will prevail and there will not be grounds to terminate her.
Good for her!</p>

<p>Could it be, however, that she fails as a teacher to control her class and to motivate the students? It sounds to me like she should not be teaching!
I would like to know whether these same “lazy whiners” are actually performing well in other classes.
It takes very, very special people who actually like teenagers and understand their development to teach in high school. My impression is that she is not one of them.</p>

<p>Hmmmmm
Looks like they are investigating if she wrote it while at work. That could be problematic.</p>

<p>I haven’t read the blog, but it does sound like she could have been more <em>literary</em> espcecially since she is an English teacher. I don’t mind the dressing down but she could have expanded her vocabulary and eliminated the profanity.</p>

<p>That said - my prediction is the PSEA, arguably the strongest teacher union in the country, will represent her. She will not lose her job - they don’t have grounds on which to fire her and may even be paid for her wages lost. This is going to depend on her seniority and if she has tenure. I hope she has her Level II certification.</p>

<p>She used her first name & last initial in the blog.
I expect that in her descriptions anyone reading it who was familiar with the school, was easily able to figure out who she was. ( obviously- since that is what happened)
I don’t think most teachers are like this & regardless of the accuracy or not of her observations, she behaved very unprofessionally- yes, enough to lose her job.</p>

<p>The rules here do not permit the link to blogs, but I easily found the link while reading a news story on this issue. The teacher presents her side of the story, if anyone wants to see what she was thinking.</p>

<p>A couple more facts–only a small percentage (was it 15-20%?) of her comments in the blog had to do with teaching. (It was a personal blog, not one set up for the purpose of griping about her students.)
She did not identify herself (except by first name/initial-, her school, or any particular students in the blog.</p>

<p>She is 8mo. pregnant right now–so I guess she’ll be on maternity leave soon.</p>

<p>I think she was being honest/taking out her frustrations in what she thought was an anonymous blog. I have no idea what kind of teacher she is, but I have no doubt that at least some of her students are lazy whiners and everything else she said. Not sure what the motivation was of the students who reported on her.
I don’t think she should be fired, but she might reconsider whether teaching is the profession for her. Maybe they should just transfer her to a different school after her maternity leave. Lesson learned: If you wouldn’t want it on the front page of the paper (or Yahoo News), don’t put it on the web. And always use a fake name!</p>

<p>I don’t believe whininess or laziness are necessary or desirable developmental stages that we have to understand or tolerate. This is a major problem in America, and the failure to address it hurts the whiny, lazy kids; their teachers; and the students who are there to work hard and learn. There was one day my S got so frustrated at a fellow student whining every day that he stood up and yelled, “Would you just shut up and stop whining all the time? Just work harder and you’ll get a better grade!” Needless to say, it was not an appropriate response, but the serious students were so sick of the slackers wasting class time trying to get out of doing work and getting the teacher aggravated. </p>

<p>My D also was very bothered by the fact that being a drama queen and having a “problem” every single day would actually be not only tolerated, but accepted and even rewarded by some teachers. We don’t do our kids any favors by not calling them out on this behavior. I’ve been researching jobs and just saw an announcement that literally said don’t apply if you aren’t willing to do whatever task is needed without complaining, or if you are moody. I guess this company was pretty fed up with the lazy whiners too. One of the happiest days in D’s life was when she began freshman year and her college coach told a girl to stop whining. She was so grateful that on this team, unlike her high school team, this negative, selfish, and morale-undermining behavior would not be tolerated.</p>

<p>I posted a link to this article elsewhere, and, as a friend observed:</p>

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<p>As someone above pointed out, most of this blog is a personal journal and has nothing to do with complaining about students. I would say that my observations over the years pretty closely match what she was quoted to have said in this article, though. There are lazy, complaining kids out there and the parents who defend this behavior do them no favors at all.</p>

<p>I posted a link to this article elsewhere, and, as a friend observed:</p>

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<p>As someone above pointed out, most of this blog is a personal journal and has nothing to do with complaining about students. I would say that my observations over the years pretty closely match what she was quoted to have said in this article, though. There are lazy, complaining kids out there and the parents who defend this behavior do them no favors at all.</p>

<p>Edit: sorry for the double post. I tried to delete this but that did not work either.</p>

<p>The blog was unprofessional and reflects a lack of good judgment. Period. I think the school district should be able to sanction this type of unprofessional conduct. Her blog reveals that she has disdain for her students. This attitude would clearly carry over into how she relates to her students and performs the essential duties of a teacher. She won’t be fired, but perhaps some counseling and/or continuing education is warranted if she wishes to continue in this profession.</p>

<p>I strongly believe that once grades are finalized, parents and students must be afforded an opportunity to review the teacher and administration. Push comes to shove a pattern will develop and finally teacher evaluations will be real.</p>

<p>I couldn’t agree more with Levirm (post 5) this is a two way street. There are always extremes and until she can prove (and since she went public) that she moved heaven and earth in her powers to engage students in learning, she has no business being in the classroom.</p>

<p>Yes, it was not wise or professional on her part to have written these comments on an internet blog. She should have looked for a better approach to handle her frustrations and resolve this problem.</p>

<p>At the same time, couldn’t you argue that applying the lowest performance expectations and behavior standards to your students is more disdainful? By tolerating whining and laziness, it demonstrates that you think so little of the kids that you don’t believe they are capable of better behavior and harder work, or else you don’t care if they continue on a destructive or ill-advised path. We discipline children and demand the best from them because we care and want them to be happy and successful in life. </p>

<p>Part of the problem is a parental and even educational mindset that a child’s life should be fun, and children shouldn’t have to ever work hard, or feel any discomfort about doing a challenging or unpleasant task. I had a principal recently tell me that he didn’t think my D should have to work so hard on schoolwork. I responded “Why? She’s not complaining because she WANTS to do well, and I want her to do well, and that is what it takes.” Is he going to support her if she can’t get into college and get a job which can pay her bills?</p>

<p>Unfortunately, this article is the tail end of a series of articles that have appeared since the story first broke. She lawyered up and started giving interviews that changed the tone of what she did in her blog. We live in the subject school district, although my son attends one of the other two schools in the district, not the one in which she taught. There is always a mix of kids in any district, but I have to say, overall, the kids here are a great bunch of hard working students, especially those taking honors courses, which she taught.</p>

<p>When the first story appeared in our local paper last week, I wanted to see what was really going on before going out and joining the villagers with their torches. Although she deleted the blog (but later reactivated it but deleted all her previous posts), it was easy to find them in cached form through Google. Basically, this woman doesn’t just have a problem with students, she has a problem with just about everything and everyone. She complained about her colleagues, noting that she ate lunch alone in her room rather than ruining her lunch by eating in the faculty lunchroom. She complained about a fat woman in the grocery store and ranted paragraph after paragraph about what she had in her shopping cart. She made fun of TV personalities for physical attributes that can’t be helped. She made fun of a TV food show host for having so many gay men on her show. There’s not room here to continue listing her negative posts. This is the stuff of a chronic whiner. At age 30, she is basically in the same generation as our high school students. Her blog posts show that she is behaving the way she claims her students have behaved. </p>

<p>And the blog post that started the whole uproar wasn’t even quoted in the above posted article. Here are the things she said she would like to put on her students’ report cards in the comments section:</p>

<p>“Asked too many questions and took too long to ask them. The bell means it’s time to leave!”
“Rude, beligerent, argumentative f___” (Except she spelled out the actual F word.)
“There’s no other way to say this: I hate your kid.”
“A complete and utter jerk in all ways. Although academically ok, your child has no other redeeming qualities”
“Shy isn’t cute in 11th grade; it’s annoying”
“Gimme an A. I. R. H. E. A. D. What’s that spell? Your kid!”
“Nowhere near as good as her sibling. Are you sure they’re related?”</p>

<p>That’s about half the list and not necessarily the worst of it.</p>

<p>She now is claiming that she’s bringing things to light to do good. With regard to her claim that the administration and faculty bend to the parents and students? After 12 years with a child in this district I can tell you the opposite is true. Unless it is something particularly egregious, they staunchly defend their teachers.</p>

<p>She also claims that her blog was anonymous. It wasn’t. Although she signed her first name and only the intial of her last name on each blog post, her picture is displayed on the same page with a link to her complete profile that has her complete name. She also said it was just intended for her friends to read, however, it was published publicly. There is an option to make it private for friends and that is not what she did. Unfortunately, students who were in that class about which she was making the above comments could sort out about whom she was talking. It was very mean spirited.</p>

<p>No district is perfect and we weren’t particularly pleased with some of his early elementary teachers, but aside from that, in general, the high school teachers my son has had in this district have been very conscientious, willing to go the extra mile and the kids respond in kind. We had back-to-school night for the second semester the week before this story broke. My son’s AP Physics teacher couldn’t stop raving about how wonderful the students were in the class and he is not the type to make gratuitous comments.</p>

<p>The curriculum is standardized among the district high schools and they all take the same final exams. My son’s experience with 11th grade Honors English (which is what the complaining teacher taught) was wonderful. His teacher was adored by the class even though she was a tough grader. My son was very disappointed when he couldn’t fit her elective Shakespeare class in his schedule this year. (Perhaps this teacher could mentor the complainer.)</p>

<p>If you would like to read her actual words, google the name of her blog and her name, then click on “cached” for the hits you get. I was able to read about a dozen of her actual blogs this way. It’s very sad that she is now getting a lot of media attention that makes it appear that she is the expert in classroom demographics when in my opinion she is one of the teachers who couldn’t make it in the classroom because rather than making it about her students, she made it about herself.</p>

<p>As a former teacher, I learned early on that respect begets respect.</p>

<p>“this negative, selfish, and morale-undermining behavior would not be tolerated.”</p>

<p>Exactly! I am agreeing with you. If she understood teenage development and the discipline necessary to deal with it, she would know how to motivate them to quit whining. This teacher must be tolerating the behavior if it is continuing. She is doing nothing to counteract the behavior. This renders her ineffective in my opinion and I hope that she decides to leave the profession.</p>

<p>sounds like she is the whiner…</p>

<p>if you cant take the heat in the kitchen, get out.</p>

<p>whether the kids actually are unmotivated is irrelevant to the issue. if she is observing a problem with her students’ grades, it is completely counterproductive for her to write a scathing blog post about it.</p>

<p>are you kidding me?</p>

<p>she should be rewriting her curriculum or implementing motivation techniques. the resources are available to her, yet she instead chooses to whine and wish that her job was as simple as displaying information on a powerpoint. reality check: teaching isn’t easy, so quit if you are bad at it. take some responsibility.</p>

<p>screw the courts. if she gets to keep her job, i sympathize with any kid that has to have her. this woman is not fit to lead a classroom. that is 100% clear to me, and i hope im not the only one seeing that.</p>

<p>This teacher sounds like a nightmare, but not so different from several of my D’s honors and AP teachers who seem to have forgotten that they are TEACHERS. They are the ones who need to rise above difficult situations - whiny and belligerent kids - and exhibit adult behavior. Instead, many of these teachers use too much time to chat and express their own opinions about anything and everything. My D is there to learn, but her teachers are simply there for their own entertainment. If they manage to teach a few things now and then - and they could teach A LOT if they chose to - well and good, but who cares really? Not them. They earn their salary either way. I can’t wait until my third child graduates. Kids may be getting worse but teachers are getting “worser” …</p>

<p>Though I disagree about teachers getting worser, I think parents are getting worstest. There are good and bad teachers, but there were good and bad teachers in the 60’s when I was in school.</p>