Pachinko - June CC Book Club Selection

Coming here late because I just finished Pachinko today. For me, it was a tiresome and badly edited slog. The entire time I was reading it, I kept thinking I must be missing something because the book had garnered so much critical praise, had received endorsements from so many well-regarded authors, and had become a National Book Award nominee. So it was heartening to see so many of the book’s weaknesses identifed here. It’s not just me!

I’m starting to think that any long, sweeping, family-based, historical novel that reveals true events not well known by Americans will get an unfair advantage when presented to critics and other reviewers. It’s like a multi-course vegan meal prepared for days by a famous chef, which is terribly nutritious, made of unusual, organic, non-ingredients, and presented on lovely dinnerware. Who will have the nerve to say it doesn’t really taste that good?

I agree with most of the critiques here. I was most irritated by Solomon’s devotion to Hana. I have no clue how that vignette fit into the overall narrative. It seemed as shoehorned in as the section about the gay policeman’s wife. Why didn’t the editor say no, you’ve gone too far astray, and your book is long enough?

With respect to the next choice, my book club read All the Light We Cannot See, and it engendered a great discussion.

“Who will have the nerve to say it doesn’t really taste that good?”

We will. :smiley:

Well, let’s see how The Twelve Lives of Samuel Hawley tastes. It’s a tough decision, as there are so many good choices, but I’m going to call it for Twelve Lives since so many have expressed interest in it during our last two or three rounds. I’ll start a new thread.

@MommaJ, I love the vegan meal analogy. :slight_smile:

Re All the Light We Cannot See, there was a mini-discussion about the book back in 2014. It wasn’t for the CC Book Club–just a short thread that came and went fairly quickly–but anyone who has recently read All the Light might find it interesting. But do NOT read any of the thread if you haven’t read the book! Loads of spoilers. http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1716824-all-the-light-we-cannot-see-anyone-read-this-i-have-questions-p1.html

Well, I finally made it to the end of the posts!

I’m an outlier: I thought that Pachinko was very interesting and well worth reading. Sure, some of the things that annoyed others annoyed me, but in general I found it absorbing.

Leaving that aside, since I guess the verdict is in, I loved All the Light and gave it to my husband and mother to read.

I’d like to make a suggestion of a mystery that I think people would find quite remarkable: Michael Gruber’s first book under his own name, Tropic of Night. He’s a superb writer, and the book is totally unlike the more conventional kind of thing like The Dry, which I personally somewhat disliked: I didn’t care about the horrible residents of that horrible boring, ugly town.

Have we considered Manhattan Beach by Jennifer Egan?

I am in for The Twelve Lives of Samuel Hawley. Sounds great.

@Consolation, I liked Pachinko and I’m glad I read it. I learned a lot and the characters have been living in my head for a while. That said, I’m sure I’ll never re-read it. I find that I enjoy and then forget the pretty good books; I enjoy, remember and re-read the exceptional ones.

My daughter just picked up a hardcover of Pachinko, in excellent condition, for $2 at a yard sale. I guess it falls in the read-and-pass-along category rather than the read-and-clear-a-spot-on-your-shelf category.

Your book suggestions are great. I’ve never read Tropic of Night or Manhattan Beach and I hope they end up on a future list for us. (btw, I really liked The Dry, horrible people and all. :). I’m reading Force of Nature right now.)

Choosing The Twelve Lives of Samuel Hawley may have seemed like an overly quick decision compared to our longer process in other months, but in fact, it was a really slow decision because it’s been suggested so many times. I looked back and found it first appeared on our voting list in June 2017, and then just about every time since.

I really enjoyed The Right Stuff too, which is why I didn’t veto a Tom Wolfe book. My hesitation stems from concern that I won’t like Wolfe’s next book yet have to put up with his EXUBERANCE!!! while muddling through it.

@Mary13: Bowing down to you ^:)^ for another book discussion well-led - while adjusting to a new job at the same time. Hope your first week went well and that the job is all you wanted it to be (or at least pays well.)

So what are you guys reading in the interim? Those books waiting patiently on your bedside table for their turn?

Thanks, @ignatius. The job is coming along, but the full-time schedule is exhausting. I’m no Sunja. :slight_smile:

@ignatius I’ve recently read and enjoyed:

The Blackhouse by Peter May - mystery set in the Outer Hebrides islands of Scotland. Very good.

An American Marriage by Tayari Jones - listened to as audiobook; great narration

*Every Note Played * by Lisa Genova - pianist diagnosed with ALS; ex-wife reluctantly takes care of him; a quick read about the brutal devastation of living with, and dying from, ALS

Currently reading Lucky Boy by Shanthi Sekaran - not that far into this one but it quickly drew me in. Undocumented young woman from Mexico arrives in Northern CA, finds she is pregnant. Parallel story of married woman of Indian heritage trying to have a baby (relatives constantly nagging her about it is not helping matters). At some point their paths are going to cross but I have yet to get to that point. Started it as an audiobook while driving to the beach for a few days but found I couldn’t wait the few days to continue listening on my way home so have downloaded kindle version from library.

**Currently reading **
Kitchen Confidential
Sound and Fury

In my kindle to be read
Madeleine L’Engle’s journals

Rereading
Warrior’s Apprentice - Lois McMasters Bujold (mostly because KC is kind of depressing!)

Considering
Probably reading next something from the list a high school friend provided. We spent a lot of time talking books. If there’s any you liked or hated let me know! I’ll probably download some of these into my Kindle.
Patricia Briggs - Moon Called (urban fantasy)
Ilona Andrews - Magic Bite (The first thing I find on good reads is my brother’s review "Gonna write a review for the whole series here and it’s totally going to cost me my man card because they are really romance novels in post-apocalyptic urban fantasy drag. " LOL
Charles Todd - A Duty to the Dead (looks like this is not fantasy - mystery series about a WW1 nurse)
Jacqueline Winspear - Maisie Dobbs series (also post WW1 mysteries)
Julia Quinn - The Duke and I - Regency Romance
Sharon Shinn - Mystic and Rider (medieval fantasy) and Troubled Waters (more fantasy)

I’m in for ‘The Twelve lives of Samuel Hawley’. I just hope it’s not too long, though…

I’m on a fantasy binge and am currently reading the 9th 1000+ page, volume of ‘The Malazan Book of the Fallen’ by Steven Erikson. Even though I am thoroughly enjoying the book, it has taken me an unusually long time to read the series. Erikson’s writing is so very rich and satisfying and he gives the reader a lot of information to process.
I still have the last book of the series to read so my nightstand is quite empty of any other books.

For a break from that I’m reading on my e-book reader a not very well-written period romance which isn’t moving quickly enough. I may ditch that and move on to an old favorite quite soon.

I just finished the third book in the Red Sparrow trilogy by Jason Matthews. Not my usual genre (Russian-US counter intelligence), so I can’t speak to how the series stands up to others, but I thoroughly enjoyed the first two books, the third wasn’t bad, just not as compelling as the others.

Next in queue is “Wild” by Cheryl Strayed. Some members of the hiking club I belong to were giving me a hard time because I’ve never read it.

With the recent tragic death of climber Charlotte Fox, I was thinking of re-reading “Into Thin Air” by Jon Krakauer.

I have “My Side of the Mountain” by Jean Craighead George in actual hard copy book form in my bag, which I will pull out and read here and there. One of my all time favorite books as a kid, and it never fails to stir up all kinds of happy memories.

My brother recently recommended "The Happiness Curve: Why Life Gets Better After 50, so I might give that a go, even just to give us something to talk about.

Not knowing much about her or her family’s life, I put Maria’s Shriver’s recent book in queue, “I’ve Been Thinking” because I was utterly charmed by her interview with Krista Tippett on the podcast On Being. Shriver was also touting a recent biography about her mother, “Eunice: The Kennedy Who Changed the World” by Eileen McNamara. I’m up for a book about an amazing woman.

I’ve been wanting to read some memoirs — Carol Burnett, Gloria Steinem — and biographies — John Adams, Ben Franklin — and never seem to start them.

I’ve been wanting to read something by Anna Quindlen, or Ann Patchett. There are a host of books that were hot in book club circles “Memoirs of a Geisha” for example, that I’ve never read.

Might re-read Robert Wright’s “Why Buddhism is True” because it re-charges me and I get a little something out of it each time I listen to another chapter.

I do have some books in queue that are “rough” (subject matter), and find I pass on them again and again. Just not up for it.

My turn (using @mathmom’s format):

Currently reading:
The Plea - Steve Cavanagh. Second in the Eddie Flynn series. Legal mystery/thriller.

The English Assassin - Daniel Silva. Second in the Gabriel Allon series.

*Y: The Last Man, Vol. 1: Unmanned/i - Brian K. Vaughan. Graphic novel. A mysterious plague kills all Y-chromosome carriers on earth. At the exact same second. Except two: Yorick and his male monkey Ampersand. My husband commandeered the novel, so I have to await those moments when he doesn’t have it before I get my chance.

Rereading:
The Disorderly Knights - Dorothy Dunnett. Third in The Lymond Chronicles. I’m never going to get to the sixth (last book) because the minute I finish reading one I start it again. Finished this one on a Sunday and started it again on Monday. I have to for some many reasons. @mathmom understands, I bet.

Upcoming for other book clubs:
*All Our Wrong Todays

Where’d You Go Bernadette/i

*When the English Fall

Force of Nature* - Aaron Falk #2. Already read it so don’t need to do so again.

I just finished The Truth According to Us - Annie Barrows. The discussion is next week. I liked it but no more than enough.

@Midwest67: One of my book clubs recently read two memoirs:
Lab Girl - Hope Jahren. I loved it. (It was mentioned on the Best Books thread also, I believe.)

Born a Crime - Trevor Noah. I didn’t not like it but it suffered in comparison to Lab Girl for me. My main problem was that it’s touted as humor … but no. Nobody in the book club would have slotted it under humor though most liked it enough otherwise.

Anyway, I can recommend either or both, just not back-to-back.

I just finished reading a little book, historical fiction, called With You There Is Light. It’s based on real letters between an officer in the German army and his girl friend, during WII. It’s not great literature but it taught me about the German resistance, which I didn’t realize existed. I cried at the end, so I guess that’s a recommendation. :slight_smile:

I also recently finished The Flight Attendant by Bohjalian. Lots of fun, an easy read, and very escape-y. What’s interesting is that the main character is – ummm – let’s just say, no saint, which makes it a little tough to stay on her side.

I also read Every Note Played by Genova. Her books are wonderful – just the right amount of medicine and human saga.

I read Wild by Strayed several years ago. I thought it was excellent and still think about certain passages.

Next up: The Female Persuasion by Wollitzer. There’s a book discussion group in town that’s meeting this coming Saturday AM to discuss this, so I’m going to hustle and see if I can finish it by then.

I’m just stopping in to say hello. I haven’t read the thread yet, since I’m only nearing the halfway mark of Pachinko. So far I’m not particularly wowed by the writing, but I am interested in the story, especially given its setting.

I just finished the powerful compilation of essays and commentary, *We Were Eight Years in Power * by Ta-Nehisi Coates, and have *Social Creature * by Tara Isabella Burton on the nightstand (meh). I’m also listening to Lisa Genova’s latest, * Every Note Played * about a concert pianist diagnosed with ALS and have Ivan Turgenev’s Fathers and Sons queued in Overdrive audio.

I hope you’re all enjoying the start of a beautiful summer. Since I’ve been trying to stay active with walking and running, and doing more driving, I’ve somehow managed to shift more of my heavy book “reading” over to “listening” via audio format that’s so easily downloaded from the library onto my phone. It all counts, though for this book nerd :slight_smile:

@PlantMom

I am certain I would read only 1-2 books a year if it weren’t for Audible. Audible + iPhone = life-changing. :slight_smile:

@ignatius LOL. Yes I do. Since I never see the big reveals coming! That’s a series I mean to reread some day.

Lol, that’s pretty much our discussion in a nutshell.

Yay! It’s 416 pages – shorter than some of our other choices. I dipped into the book and I think it will move pretty quickly.

Hey Kindle users: Do you remember when we were talking about A Town Like Alice by Nevil Shute (at the end of our previous discussion)? Per my BookBub email, It’s $2.99 today on Amazon.

I’m looking forward to our city’s meetings. At one, we are doing An American Marriage. (Ok). Then, Farewell to Manzanar, about the Japanese internment. Out guest speaker is Mr. Hirabayashi, who sued to not be interned. His granddaughter will come too.

At my suggestions , our neighborhood group is reading Guerney literary potato peel pie society. Such a fun book.

^ That was our very first CC Book Club book. :x