Pamplin Ranking

Colleges & Universities Virginia Tech
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Does anyone know why Virginia Tech’s Business School, Pamplin, is no longer ranked on US News or Poets & Quants.

It was #39 on its Best Undergraduate Business Schools.
https://pamplin.vt.edu/about-us/rankings.html

I was wondering if VT decided not to respond to the surveys or didn’t have the data, and if so why. I noticed their Engineering school is ranked. But I also noticed their accounting major is called accounting and information systems, so I’m wondering if they just aren’t comparable to the other schools or something.

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Here’s some rank.

What you listed was MBA, not undergrad. The undergrad list is long - over 500 schools - so I didn’t drill down to see if they are on there. If a school is not on P&w it’s likely they purposely didn’t submit.

For many b school majors, named schools will be similar in outcome.

Pamplin is very good. Their outcomes are good. They even place some in top consulting and IB jobs - not at levels of the elite but some.

Good luck.

https://pamplin.vt.edu/about-us/rankings.html

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Thanks! I found what I was looking for.

I don’t think VT’s website was updated. I’m skeptical about rankings because they can change drastically with a change in methodology. I was more curious as to why they hadn’t submitted anything, if something about the program was different. But it looks like they did submit this year.

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Va Tech’s business school is ranked at #47 by US News.

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Does anyone have personal experience with a child at Pamplin? Is the career services office effective/supportive? Does the school have good outcomes for internships and permanent jobs? Are the professors engaged? My DD is deciding between UGA (Terry) and VT. Terry is not direct admit, which is giving her pause. My husband and I loved what we heard at U of SC Darla Moore, but DD has decided that U of SC is not quite her vibe.

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Can’t directly answer your question but if you haven’t seen these links, it’ll give you some basic info. You could also reach out to a career center advisor to ask for more - including for a complete career report - with job titles, locations and salaries. Some of the links below might be duplicative (different years).

I think, at most schools, if a student wants support, it’s available. However, if a student doesn’t seek out the support, it won’t necessarily be.

Good luck whatever your student decides.

High Job Placement | Pamplin College of Business | Virginia Tech (vt.edu)

Career Services | Pamplin College of Business | Virginia Tech (vt.edu)

Pamplin Post-Grad Report 2021 4.29.22 full info.pdf (vt.edu)

Pamplin Career Resources | Pamplin College of Business | Virginia Tech (vt.edu)

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Thank you for these links! Very helpful. Looks like some great results!

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We had this same issue. And there’s some great threads on here that might help her with that too.

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I don’t have a child there (yet), but I’m a Pamplin alum (FIN '98). So maybe I’m slightly bias…

We visited Open House last spring and my TAMU (I noticed your username) DH (sales mgr - ironically at one of their top mktg employers) was super impressed with the entire university, and business school. The Pamplin admissions dean is super engaging…she even offered for kids to email her their essays prior to applying for proof reading. Who else does that? We got far more info from our visit to VT than any other school, especially the majors fair.

DD24 had her heart set on UNC since it’s in state for us, highly ranked b-school, but was waitlisted. The more I hear, the more I think that was a blessing - it was also not direct admit, and that made me nervous. She has now pivoted back to VT (& NCSU). We went back to Pamplin for their info session last Fri, then stayed over for the general tour/info session on Sat…to feel it out again before Hokie Focus.

If you haven’t made a visit to one of their info sessions, I’d encourage you to do so. We are continually impressed. I’d say I’m bias, but DH is perhaps more impressed as someone that didn’t know alot about VT, Pamplin, or the culture. He just keeps saying “OMG…maybe I failed in my college experience but everyone is SO HELPFUL and they WANT to help you.” We’re in NC, so we chatted with one of the student ambassadors after the presentation on Fri from Charlotte. He relayed that his sister at UNC is “fighting an uphill battle to get advising” where he said if he emails his advisor at 2:30pm, he’ll have a reply back by 2:45 almost always. Kids are assigned a Pamplin advisor before they start in the fall and they keep that same advisor all 4 yrs, even if they change majors within Pamplin. As for job outcomes, they preached what I know to be true…Hokies love Hokies. They send 50% to Northern VA for jobs (that’s where I ended up), but that’s also largely because that’s home for most of the students. Also, their most popular major is BIT, and most of that work is govt contracting related. As the admissions advisor told us during the Open House info session…if your student wants to live/work in So CA, Pamplin probably isn’t the right school for them because they don’t have a network there. Majority stay in VA, but it’s broke up from there to the Carolinas, NY, etc. The student we chatted with from Charlotte confirmed there was a pretty good pipeline of kids heading back there, esp for finance/banking. Business Horizons is the career fair held twice a year. I know the parent of a recent MKT grad, who told me she didn’t think Pamplin’s career services helped their kid much, but I also don’t know if their kid asked for help. They can only assist you if you ask. But back to your question, they have a 91% job placement rate per their info. As for the professors, a few of mine from almost 30 years ago are starting to retire, but some are still there! They must love it if they hang around that long.

As mentioned, our kid is also considering NCSU…I’ll be honest, I don’t think their business school has it together as much as Pamplin. NCSU’s big advantage is location - recruiters can stop by their campus in Raleigh on their lunch break. But as DH wisely pointed out, recruiters like Pamplin’s product so much, they’re driving several hours to go find them.

If you haven’t seen this, it’s a great resource: PamplinFlyer_ResourceToolkit.pdf - Google Drive

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Honestly, I don’t know. I can’t figure out why they’re not ranked. I have to assume maybe they didn’t supply information?

There is another parent floating around these boards, who has an older daughter that graduated from UNC’s business school, but her younger one is currently at Pamplin. She said at recruiting events, they were seeing alot of the same recruiters. Her Hokie has an intership at the same company where her UNC daughter interned…

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Actually, I was able to locate the undergraduate ranking. Not sure why the graduate school isn’t ranked. I think I read somewhere, something about it. But I’m not too concerned with that at the moment. I’ll think about that 4 years from now if she wants to get an MBA :crazy_face:.

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One step at a time… :wink:

FWIW, we learned on Fri that Pamplin will be moving all MBA students to the Arlington location, which frankly, makes sense.

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Don’t worry. Unless accounting, grad school comes later. Any reasonably ranked mba (top 50), etc requires at least two years work experience.

I know you’re kidding but UMD or Va tech, they’ll likely be working b4 graduate business school.

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Really! That’s such great news for us! My D was open to going to a grad school in-state. I tried to get her to apply to W&M because they have satellite campus in DC, but it was only for a semester.

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As @tsbna44 just said, they need to work a few years, unless they’re acct. They have an accelerated masters program for those headed down a CPA path.

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Also, a bit about facilities - we walked through the new Data Sciences building that just opened in the fall. It’s super nice, and a shared building between business, engineering, and maybe CS? It’s a beautiful, modern building. They have a room with 20-ish? (maybe more) Bloomberg terminals, and the ticker running around it for those interested in investing. A few more adjacent buildings are under construction. The Pamplin College will move out of the Pamplin building sometime before the class of 2028 graduates and into one of the new buildings.

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I can’t wait to see that on Hokie Focus. My D didn’t really like the Pamplin building, and I was wondering how much the school was planning to invest towards their business students.

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It’s nostalgia, I know, but I like the Pamplin building! It hasn’t changed in 30 years… But it’s still way better than NC State’s business school building (which won’t be replaced anytime soon). :wink:

Also at VT students have classes in any building, not just their college major. Another thing that has changed was some of the core mktg, mgmt classes I took were 500 students in large lecture halls. They’ve added more classes/professors, so said the largest classes would be 120-ish for those core classes, but get closer to 20-25, or less, for upper level, major specific classes. Full time faculty ratio is 13:1 - that’s a fact the Pamplin admissions advisor said to ask at other schools (so I wrote it down…).

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I just want to go for the food!!!

Honestly, the campus is paradise - but that’s my opinion. Nicest large campus in America.

The food is most every rating service and students (via niche) opinion.

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100% agree with you.

I also have a DS29 who wrestles. So we watched VT wrestle Duke in Moss Arts Center on Fri PM. Then on Sat after our info tour, we opted to walk downtown for lunch (since they were still serving brunch on campus), then caught the end of the D1 women’s lax game against VCU, caught the first half of the men’s club lax game vs JMU, came back to Cassell to catch more wrestling (against Mason) before heading home. We had to pay for tickets to the match in the Moss center, but all other events were free, for everyone, not just students.

It’s a great campus, has a great vibe, terrific food…there is truly something for everyone. I’d like to rewind the clock and go back. DD24 is still pretending to entertain NCSU, but frankly, we’re doing mental exercises trying to figure out how it’s better than VT (besides instate tuition rate… :wink: )

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