Parental Responsibility from child FASFA Fraud

<p>Greetings everyone, </p>

<p>Can anyone tell me what my responsibility would be if my 19 year old that lives with me filed his FASFA as an “Emancipated Minor?” Is there a way for me to verify that this is actually the case? I am worried that should there be an audit I would be responsible for repayment of whatever grants were disbursed based on the false information in the FASFA. I have read that the school Financial Aid officer MAY ask for supporting documentation. This leads me to believe that they also MAY not ask for supporting documentation. </p>

<p>Any insight that you all can give me would be greatly appreciated!</p>

<p>-Rets</p>

<p>You wouldn’t be responsible, your adult child would.</p>

<p>It’s almost certain the financial aid officer will ask for documentation. It is very rare for a student under the age of 24 to be considered independent for FAFSA. A school FA department will almost always verify the situation. . </p>

<p>While your child may have filed as an emancipated minor, without court documents from your state proving that he has been emancipated, he wil not get aid with your your financial information. </p>

<p>Both you and the student need to sign the FAFSA digitally. You should read what you have signed for.</p>

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<p>Is a parent signature required if the student files as an emancipated minor?</p>

<p>Billscho, the OP thinks the son filed fafsa as an independent, the OP did not sign it.</p>

<p>Oh, my bad. I just read the title and browse through before responding.</p>

<p>The child is responsible, not you. However,child, and, yes, PARENT FAFSA fraud happens frequently. One party or the other fills out the FAFSA even digitally signing it without permission or sometimes even knowledge. Yes it is illegal, yes it could have serious ramifications. However, given that it’s a family thing it rarely get very far. </p>

<p>But in this case, if the child filed as an emancipated minor, unless there is a part on the form that required a parental signature that was done by someone not the parent as it should have been, that is fraud on part of the child I don’t think there is such a signature required when one files as an emancipated minor So the parent is not directly involved in this.</p>

<p>IF, however, this undergoes ANY kind of verification and doesn’t pass muster, it usually just doesn’t go anywhere. The school generally asks for some proof, can’t be provided, isn’t provided and it just doesn’t go any further. No aid given either. However, if for some reason it flies through and money is obtained due to the fraud, when caught, we are talking federal crime and there are possibilities of some stiff penalties. IF parental signatures were forged anywhere along the way, the parent might be dragged into this for that and have to state and maybe show they were not involved and signatures were indeed forged. Of course, for most of us, when are kids are in trouble, even if we are not directly implicated, we do often become involved.</p>

<p>Yes, there is FAFSA and fin aid fraud. How much, who knows, because it isn’t exactly broad cast. I haven’t looked for any figures, but even if they are out there, they wouldn’t take account of it all.</p>

<p>It may be possible, if a fin aid office at a school doesn’t bother to verify anything and takes the word of the applicant and the info on the report that results, that money does get dispensed and it isn’t caught. I know when my son applied for a DIrect Unsub loan to meet unexpected expenses, I did have to file a stinking FAFSA with all of our family info even though we did not qualify for a dime of aid and none of that financial info was needed at sll since that loan was an entitlement despite any financial info, and the school put us through verification! Had to give even more info including a physical copy of signed tax return, which I felt was ridiculous. But that school does that for every single first request for any aid including unsub student loans, PLUS,whatever. This was before the IRS verification tool was in place with them too. I was told though, that subsequent requests for such loans would most likely not require that kind of scrutiny. Just the first one. Believe me, I did not feel good sending our tax return and other documents to some person who happens to be working in the fin aid dept of a school. He had so much personal info on us that if he wanted to perpetuate an identity theft or other fraud, it was all at his finger tips. Just about the whole family’s ssns, financial info, you name it I do get it that some folks do not want to give this out. </p>

<p>Even if it flies through and offer the aid to the student, you still have the option to accept or decline it. I think it would be punishable only if you actually accept the aid with fraud.</p>

<p>Agree with others. Documentation will be expected by the college. They will scrutinize this documentation very carefully.</p>

<p>Did you sit down and offer to do the FAFSA with your child? Is that how you know it has already been done?</p>

<p>Billsho, who is the “you” in “you still have the option…” part. The student is the one, not the parent who will be offered the option to accept or decline. If this is for aid as an independent student, which it so seems, the parent won’t be in the picture at all. In fact the parent is not for any aid other than if s/he wants to apply for PLUS. The FAFSA is for the student to complete and the ownership of it is the student’s even for dependent students, not the parent who only completes and certifies his/her part of it. So if all is done by e-mail, the parent may not even know when the approval or request of info or whatever arrives. Or the phone number given for contact may be used, and again, it would be the student’s most likely.</p>

<p>The parent is not entitled to any of the info on his/her adult student’s business regarding any of this. S/he does also has no culpability other than the inevitable dragging in part that happens when one’s child gets into trouble.</p>

<p>I suggest to the OP, that s/he sit down and talk to the 19 year and let the kid know that this is a federal offence if he lied on that form and to change the form to what it should be. He is dependent on parents, and as a result the parent must fill in his/her financial info if the student is to get federal aid. Applying as an independent when he is not means falsely answering some question there and that is federal fraud which can carry stiff penalties. You don’t fool around with the feds. </p>

<p>And the OP is right, there MAY or MAY not be any audit of the info given, though I think that something like claim of emancipation is most likely going to get a request from the college fin aid officer for a copy of that court document of emancipation. Lots of dependent students do try to file as independent by rationalizing one of the answers to get through the form, but that’s just the first step. Any one under age 24 who is claiming independence, i would guess would need to submit verification of what makes him independent whether it’s a marriage certificate, a dependent by birth certificate and/or tax return or other proof that the person is providing more than half of the dependent’s needs, evidence of being a veteran and in this case the court document verifying emancipation occurred. Otherwise we’d be getting a lot of kids proclaiming their emancipation from their parents. </p>

<p>Has the OP offered to provide parent data? Is there something else going on here, like you, the parent, are holding the kid’s financial aid hostage by refusing to fill out your part of the info? </p>

<p>Thanks for all of the the replies. Yes I have in previous years filled out the FAFSA with my financial information. The problem is that this kept him from getting any grants. He decided on his own to do this and luckily I got him to tell me about it. I was worried that if he did get the grants that somehow I would be dragged down and even charged with something behind this. When I first found out last night I sat him down and explained to him the penalties should he be audited. He still insisted at that point on going through with it. Thats when I came here and posted for info. Luckily he slept on it and came to his senses. We will be changing his paperwork ASAP. </p>

<p>Good to hear he had change of heart. I would be letting my kid know that I’ll be informing the college of the fraud should he go down that road, no qualms about it. He is under your roof.</p>

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I am just saying it is not too late to correct the fraud as no aid has been accepted yet. “You” is just a pronoun referring to the responsible party and obviously whoever has the right to accept/decline the aid.</p>

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<p>This means that he has applied for financial aid and is already in college. This statement alone prevents him from being an emancipated minor. He would have had to be emancipated by the court before his 18th birthday. </p>

<p>Unless he looks good in stripes/orange, committing fraud against the federal give for financial aid also includes jail time, repayment of any and all financial aid, not future federal aid, being expelled from his school (or rescinding the diploma if he graduated). Tell him again how lucky he is.</p>