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<p>Fair enough. But if someone posts an accusation about pot supposedly causing this or that, they should be prepared to hear some rebuttals backed up by studies, from those who HAVE bothered.</p>
<p>Sorry, I have first hand knowledge of this person so it’s not propanganda. One example is all I need. I don’t condone alcohol either.</p>
<p>I wasn’t suggesting that the story was false or propaganda, merely that it’s possible that you are misinterpreting the causation in the incident.</p>
<p>Even if you weren’t, and the boy legitimately was driven to do what he did solely by marijuana, remember the ever-useful maxim “the plural of anecdote is not statistic.”</p>
<p>Why do you even need statistics for something that even regular common sense says not to do it?</p>
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My ‘accusation’ was that inhaling the smoke into your lungs can’t be a healthy thing to do. I knew there’d be rebuttals - it’s an open forum.</p>
<p>I’ve been in ski buses that people smoke that it’s hard for me to breath.</p>
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<p>Well, not everyone would agree that it’s common sense. Legality aside, how many people on this forum drink? Would you say it’s common sense to not drink? Yet many, if not most, people do drink, at least in moderation. So the pot issue has more to do with propaganda and politics than it does on common sense or actual facts about the effects of pot.</p>
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<p>You mean pot smoke or cigarette smoke? I get headaches whenever I am around cigarette smoke.</p>
<p>Pot of course. The OP’s topic is weed.</p>
<p>Could it be possible that your concern about its possible ill effects may be psychologically causing anxiety-produced breathing problems? (Being that it IS possible to get a slight high from secondhand pot smoke.) Just a thought.</p>
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<p>…stunning revelation, that when smoke accumulates in a closed area it becomes more difficult to breathe. Never disputed that, never will, especially since marijuana, again, is an expectorant; it’s tough to breathe properly when you’re having to constantly suppress your cough reflex.</p>
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<p>Centuries ago it was common sense that the Earth was flat - and the center of the universe. It was common sense that if something was moving, it had to be pushed by something. It was (and still is for some people) common sense that we were all created by God, and that evolution was not happening.</p>
<p>Common sense is a poor substitute for scientific proof.</p>
<p>Were the people actually smoking in the (very public) ski bus, or did they just reek from having already smoked?</p>
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<p>No I don’t think so. I’m not that concerned if other people smoke pot. My ex-roomates, post college, did “coke”, I never did care. It’s not for me and that’s all I care.</p>
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<p>They started inside the bus. Because there were no smell for an hour after the bus was rolling to start out with.</p>
<p>Hey that’s cool. I haven’t touched anything stronger than a glass of wine in 25 years, but I still champion accuracy when it comes to pot, due to so much misinformation about it.</p>
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<p>No, lealdragon, that’s not what I’m saying at all. (Sorry, I was away from this thread for a while.) This quote was in response to his dad’s suggestion that he delete history and chats before mom could see them.</p>
<p>What I was saying is that if there were already a breach of trust, as the OP’s mother has told him, and the kid continued to hide things from me by deleting all history and chats from the computer (and I’m sure other methods), then I would have a seriously difficult time in rebuilding that relationship. The “I’m sorry” needs to be genuine, and the kid would have to re-establish himself as trustworthy. Continuing to be secretive by keeping a “low profile” wouldn’t do that for me. To rebuild trust, one must be transparent.</p>
<p>Of course my kid has violated my trust. However, she did become much more transparent with me than she had been. I knew where she was and with whom. If plans changed she let me know. I had her e-mail and Facebook passwords. Eventually I was able to trust her again. But it took time and work on both our parts.</p>
<p>Thanks for the clarification. I basically agree, with the added thought that sometimes the parent does need to look at WHY the kid is violating the trust: ie, is the parent being unreasonable? Not saying the parent is unreasonable in this case, just generalizing here. I hid lots of things from my parents but we did not have a good relationship - they were very old-school and it was more about them controlling me. So I never had any qualms about hiding things from them because we weren’t close to begin with, there was a huge generation gap (60s-70s era), no love/affection, and they were exceedingly unreasonable. There was just no way they could ever understand me.</p>
<p>Contrast that with today’s parents who remember what it was like to have that generation gap, and have taken steps to be close to their kids. Although, it’s not always about age or generation. Case in point: We have very open communication in our family and our son knows that he can always tell us anything, ANYTHING. We might not like it but we valued communication above all else. Well, one of his female friends’ mom told me that her daughter told her EVERYTHING but I knew otherwise because she told me stuff she didn’t even tell her mom! (which put me in an awkward position sometimes.) Well whenever her mom found out about anything, she came down really hard on the kid, grounded her for a month, etc. So no wonder the girl didn’t tell her anything.</p>
<p>My point is just that if parents want their kids to communicate with them, it needs to be a TRUST thing not a CONTROL thing.</p>
<p>Sure, we do need SOME control over our kids, but as they get older, they have to take on more of the responsibility, so our degree of control gets less. And the trust should increase as the control decreases. But sometimes parents confuse trust with control.</p>
<p>(Again, not saying you or OP do that - just generalizing here.)</p>