<p>cheers,</p>
<p>C’mon, are you saying raising healthy kids is <em>unrelated</em> to aware, diligent parenting? Must we bend over that far backwards so as not to offend the people who have tried hard and despite their best efforts have had a kid screw up? The Mom in “My extremely bright daughter…” was obviously a very caring mom, but she <em>was</em> in some denial (busted twice on the only two substance abuse instances? Caught buying on first foray into pot? Please.) Also, I wouldn’t call her kid a chronic trouble maker like OP mentioned. Excellent, wonderful, well-parented, loved kids can occasionally be idiots or make mistakes; nobody is expecting perfection. I think the OP was talking about chronic troublemakers & their clueless 'rents. </p>
<p>I stand by my position from post #2. Out of 10 troubled kids you’d probably find indulge or neglect parenting in 8 of their housholds.</p>