Parents of the HS Class of 2009 (Part 1)

<p>DTE, be kind to yourself. If it’s time to consider semi-retirement or a change of environment, I’m sure your D would understand and I’m sure she’d rather have you happy and healthy. Where there’s a will there’s a way…and you’ve likely already helped so much more than average. </p>

<p>Don’t get me wrong, i think student debt sucks. But I also think there comes a time when our kids can reasonably expect to find their way and that in some ways the independence makes the accomplishment sweeter. Then again, I’m generally considered to be a hard-*ss :wink: Likely because I had to scrabble my own way from the git go ;)</p>

<p>Speaking of scrabbling, I’m pretty sure the stress is endemic to that. To me it seems there’s so much “noise” in society these days that there are many without the skill to manage it. By noise, I mean the constant chatter of social media, often emotionally manipulative, the angst evident in polarized mainstream media, the continued growing socioeconomic gap, the speed and pace and general expectation level in the average workplace, where often, the power is wielded by the utterly incompetent and the continual assault of all these things at close range. Combine all that with people’s general modern (if unrealistic) expectation of what they “deserve” in life versus what they have and your bound to have cognitive dissonance ;)</p>

<p>I personally would be lost without the balancing effect of hot tub, wine, a good book or a walk in the woods, and the deadly serious commitment to putting those things into my life in whatever small chunks I can while still financing it all,’ which can be a very tricky balance some days ;)</p>

<p>Yesterday, for example, our latest unreasonable deadline (made unreasonable by delays on the client side beyond our control) had everyone working late into the night. And the work that had us burning the midnight oil was not work we were supposed to do, but the client had placed an unreasonable expectation on a sole employee to perform a function critical to the project. When I identified there would be a bottle neck and offered (for a fee) to have my staff work OT to keep the project on schedule, I perhaps transferred the stress to us, but otherwise saved the project from an unacceptable delay. I’m not entirely sure I should have done it, but the alternatives seemed unappealing. In situations lie those its hard to preserve and protect my time, which I think us a skill required to reduc stress.</p>

<p>At the same time, that can be offset once all is done with time off and treats, and I try hard to make sure that happens after one of these extraordinary instances. But I notice that in terms of our clients, many are just staying ahead by a thread, late making decisions, late identifying unsuspected consequences, can’t get ahead of the curve, employees dropping balls, etc. And of course, that then contaminates us. So it’s hard to balance.</p>

<p>Speaking of which, the hot tub awaits ;)</p>

<p>D is looking at getting another puppy. They did the application last night and expect to hear something this weekend. Their current dog is just over a year. I love puppies so will be looking forward to see if they get something and what it is. :)</p>

<p>Work isn’t as awful lately for me. Seems like when the pressure isn’t as high my boss isn’t so bad. Unfortunately this is the first (over a year) of working for him that I have seen it. If he could be like that when the pressure builds do to a project than I could work for him happily.</p>

<p>Hello,everyone. No time to comment on everything, but DTE, hugs to you. I know I’m showing my ignorance, and I apologize for that, but is it possible to work in a doctor’s office, closer to home, where things are more low key?</p>

<p>I was going to delete my post as it sounded like I was trying to 'one up" people and actually it was me thinking out loud or in print. I don’t stop to think about stuff much and just plug along, when I take the time to think about it I think wow! What has generated this thinking, is my SIL and BIL make comments when I don’t do things, like paint the house, or get up early or lift things. I have caught her dismissing and making comments. Truth is, I have to conserve my energy, and my pain , like many people with chronic illness. For example my friend with arthritis, has a house cleaner ,she would prefer to "use " her joints for things she wants to do. People comment frequently about this to her. If I want to be ok at work I do less at home. etc… Just don’t have it anymore. But I am pretty stubborn. Does this make sense? so I am sorry for verbalizing things in this way, quite frankly I am tired of judgement by people. I am tired of “you look fine” etc…If people realized just how much people deal with they might shut up, (SIL) I actually do quite well and dont complain much. So I was pondering out loud. This is always a good place to land .<br>
I am taking 2 classes next semester, as I am driving in two days, I am cutting my hours. Unfortunately, I make too much an hour, to work in a doctors office. I will actually make less as an NP when I get my masters
KMC I have often complained about how noisy the world is. Being an introvert, it can be too much. I am not attached to my cell phone, I hate that people can get to you at any time, via phone, social media etc… I don’t bring this stuff tot he lake and I love it. P.S. I have been lobbying for a hot tub for quite some time!</p>

<p>dt–my close friend has a chronic illness and I have watched her conserve her energy and when she doesn’t she lands in bed for days. I am appalled that your SIL would say anything negative and it shows that she is both uneducated and a person you should not be around.
I kindly suggest that the money in my bail out fund be transfered to dt’s hot tub fund. I know it would be helpful to her and I have mostly been tolerating the rude people and cell phone talkers who walk in front of the cars and so on.
I have managed with giving dirty looks and staring at them. Sometimes I throw my hands up in the air.
It is lovely that I can do most of my shopping online.</p>

<p>DTE - first of all VENT AWAY here! We are there for you!</p>

<p>Personally I find that people who comment on what other people do or don’t do don’t have a clue. Live in that persons shoes for a day and then see if you would say the same thing! I mean who cares if you don’t climb a ladder or if your floor is clean enough to eat off of or not. Really – no ones business! Sorry but that gets to me. I can do somethings and can’t do others. I don’t always know my limitations and sometimes I pay for not knowing. :slight_smile: Hopefully I’ll learn but not always! Some times people just don’t have a clue what others are facing (pain, depression, anxiety, sadness, limitations on movement or whatever). </p>

<p>I also think sometimes they are just jealous! I mean they would secretly LOVE a house cleaner but instead complain about others having that ability.</p>

<p>I applaud you for going back to school! I know that I couldn’t do it. </p>

<p>DTE, hugs to you and wishing you an absence of SIL and BIL for Christmas. It is difficult to believe that someone could get to be roughly our age without developing empathy. Have their lives been so charmed that they have never borne an invisible burden? I can see where some younger folks who have been fortunate to have no health problems could fail to relate. But most of us have had enough of our own issues to know not to judge others.</p>

<p>This may seem trite, but my pregnancies really taught me empathy for those with chronic medical conditions. I had 5 months of 24/7 “morning sickness” with each pregnancy. I knew what it felt like to never feel good. I had the psychological advantage of knowing it would end, but it did make me really think of all the people in the world who never ever have a day where they feel “100 per cent.” </p>

<p>What RM said, DTE. </p>

<p>Invisible disabilities are hard in so many ways. Do what’s right for you and protect your joints/energy for the things that are most important for you. </p>

<p>Oh DTE - I’m so sorry to hear this but please, vent away!
I’m not sure about knee replacements though… I read this recently and it gave me pause:
<a href=“Think Twice Before Choosing Knee Replacement - The New York Times”>Think Twice Before Choosing Knee Replacement - The New York Times;
Hugs to you!</p>

<p>(Did I just do something illegal?? I hope not!)</p>

<p>D was on a crosstown bus late last night that was boarded by a crowd of the peaceful protesters. She didn’t tell me until this AM…although she called me when she was on the bus. She also waited until this AM to tell me she was hit by a car last night. (!!!) Some jerk tried to back up AFTER he made a turn and she was caught and hit in the crosswalk. A few kind souls came to her assistance but a bigger crowd started pounding on the windows of the car. A little scary but thankfully she is A-OK.</p>

<p>Holy smokes, Woody – glad she’s ok. </p>

<p>So glad she’s okay! But I guess there really is no good way to tell your mother you’ve been hit by a car. </p>

<p>Woody, glad your D is ok!</p>

<p>DTE, I totally get where you are coming from. Most folks have no idea of my health issues just by looking at me (other than the weight loss), but I never know how the chemo or cardiac issues will affect me from one day to the next. Some days I can go for 18 hours and be incredibly productive, and another day I sleep 11 hours and still need a four hour nap. My face looks terribly gaunt and aged to me. It looked better with another 30 lbs on me. OTOH, my heart objects to that!</p>

<p>The person who probably “gets it” the least is DH. I save my energy for the things that I want and need to do, and that does not always jibe with what <em>he</em> wants to see done, esp since he is the only income these days and works insane hours in a highly stressful job. He is planning a dinner at our house for his team (about 20 people including family members), and I am expected to have the place cleaned up. To me, that means much cleaner than the usual standard. :wink: </p>

<p>He is not going to be happy if I call someone to come and clean, though I don’t see how I can do it in a timeframe that will enable the house to STAY clean until the dinner party. Our dining room table and the rolltop desk in the living room are completely covered with his cr*p, and the kitchens and bathrooms will need deep cleaning. S2 will still be home on winter break, so I can direct him to move heavy items, but he is hardly a neatnik either. </p>

<p>So sorry cd-- I am a bit of a neat freak and so if I felt not up to par and had an H that was clueless…
I think I would cheat. I would probably find some extra money when I did my shopping and hire someone (this would cost less then $100) not tell him and deal with his attitude later. But then the party would be lovely and he would be happy (yet annoyed). Better than you expending energy that could set you back for days.</p>

<p>My best action with junk is to gather laundry baskets and load them up. Hide them. But one time I forgot where I put them and all of our bills were overdue:). Also, shut doors. No one needs a tour at this stage of our lives.</p>

<p>My rant for tonight: D had a “Bourbon and Truth” party. About 10 med students attended and brought drinks. D provided snacks and a white board. Her main intention was to decide between Palliative Care and Derm.as well as others making future decisions ( she is a clever and funny person. Theater person over and over).</p>

<p>So she began texting me and after a few I left my phone and left the room. While I am out of the room H looks at each new text. Comments to me when I returned what she has said.</p>

<p>This was not his conversation. grr.
I did speak up. Said that he should not read my texts before I have had a chance to read them (I nearly always share). </p>

<p>The other night D called on my cell and he took the call as I was busy in another part of the house. I did not make a big deal but I did feel unhappy. She does call him at times so if she called me I would think it obvious she wanted to talk with me and not him.</p>

<p>I never answer or look at his texts. H is “community” and I am much more private. The easy answer is to keep my phone with me all of the time.</p>

<p>So wondering what the rest of you do with your spouse about this?</p>

<p>Back in the 1990s when I created my email account, we created one account for the family, because it was new and it was hard to imagine what on earth I’d use email for. I don’t remember how long it took for me to suggest H create his OWN email account, but since it started out as a shared account, he reads both email accounts. I don’t mind except that he has an obsession of not having any unread emails, so he opens all of the ones on the first account (which is ‘my’ personal email account) so I often have a hard time determining what I haven’t seen before. I wish he wouldn’t do that.</p>

<p>I also don’t like it when he deletes emails from ‘my’ account, or subscribes to things with ‘my’ email account. But he’s technically pretty ignorant so I usually chalk it up to ineptitude rather than malice. For years he would contact me asking how to do an email attachment. He stopped asking and I assumed he figured it out. Nope. He was contacting D at college and asking her.</p>

<p>For phones, our D frequently sends group texts to both of us. What bothers me is if he replies to a group text on MY phone, so his comments look like they’re from me.</p>

<p>So there’s no real privacy here, and I am used to it.</p>

<p>Good morning. CD, when’s the dinner? We’ll all hop on the bus and come do a quick clean while you relax…many hands make light work ;)</p>

<p>But seriously, sneak in some help.</p>

<p>Woody, thank goodness she’s okay. I love that the crowd both helped and told off the driver ;)</p>

<p>Oregon, mch used to always just tell me he’d hear my phone ring/chime whatever. But I think I said “who was it” a few too many times so often he now looks, and now and then replies “for” me. . I always ask him first if he’d like me to see who called HIS cell, but I don’t really mind that he doesn’t do that because I’m pretty sure the reason he started was because I always made him feel free to read it. </p>

<p>That said, if it bugged me, I’d just lock my phone and not share the password.</p>

<p>CQ, I have the cutest image of you h not wanting to tell you he still can’t figure out email attachments :wink: Are you sure he’s not one of our clients?;)</p>

<p>Fun day ahead after a late night…dear friend coming to town with her new H. I booked us comedy club and dinner, massage and concert tomorrow. My goal is to spend my way out of cooking after the marathon of entertaining last week (dinner party then a Saturday TG with the Canuks descending.)</p>

<p>I worked til 8 last night at the downtown office, then went to a farewell/hiatus concert with a friend, so somehow it was 2:30 before I got home. Work hard and play harder seems to be the theme this week, as I have two parties and the sweat lodge next weekend. Tis the season!</p>

<p>KMc - I meant to tell you that I really appreciated your 3rd paragraph a post or two back about endemic stress and the increase of noise in our lives. You said it so much better than I could articulate for myself.</p>

<p>That being said, I keep my phone on silent in my purse…it avoids a lot of snooping!</p>

<p>Another fun thing… D just painted this enormous pop art rendition of the letter “T” for the NY Times. (She has very high ceilings in her apt - the canvas is ~4’ x 5’.) She posted it on her FB account and someone picked it up and posted it on the Times’ twitter account. She got a bunch of likes overnight…too funny!</p>

<p>TY you all I am glad to have you. RM I agree, why do people care what others do so much? I really don’t. GRR
I saw said SIL last noc. she was fine, but it was a public venue. I think I will keep it that way.
Woody so glad your D was ok, and she is so talented.
CD I was thinking of you, I am dealing at present with after affects of a horrible treatment course, you are dealing with ongoing. I would just get someone to clean. But it exhausting to always have to fight with people who don’t get it. I think our H’s want things the way they used to be, and just wont acknowledge the changes. My H is ok, but the first time not so much, it lead to many “discussions” . I think his family thinks he does to much, but honestly, he doesn’t. I still do house work, just not the marathon I used to do. I never did a lot of yard work. they have always been idiots. The first time around when I was on chemo and took care of a toddler and a baby, they never once commented on how I did that, only that my H got up with the baby, who wouldn’t sleep through the night.
Anyway, I went to the Pops last night it was nice and am going to see Seger and J geils tonight. I guess I cant be too tired heheh. U2 is touring again. too. anyone get tickets.
I vote for going to see Kmc and hanging in her hot tub. </p>

<p>We will have to keep our clothes on if Shaw comes.</p>

<p>Oregon and kmc, I think that is what I will do…it will probably run $150-200 here, but that’s life. I did it for yard cleanup the week before S1’s wedding and DH was not happy, but he (reluctantly) got over it. He and S2 were cooking all week at home for the reception. We had 16 people sleeping at our house plus various other folks (including the new in-laws) coming over to help prepare food and visit. Did he seriously think I was going to go out and do serious yard cleanup and mow the grass in AUGUST while all this was going on?!? With all my lovely health issues??? After that, I had a chat with my cardiologist about whether this was reasonable medically, and she helpfully said I could blame her for banning me from heavy yard work and grass cutting henceforth.</p>

<p>I also do the laundry basket in the MBR when guests come to visit, and forgot where I put the bills one of those times. :)</p>

<p>We still have a joint email account through Comcast, though I have a personal one attached to our account there as well. I set up a gmail account for spam and craft stuff so that I don’t overload the joint account with junk. DH tends not to do a lot of personal email, and doesn’t check my stuff. If he did, he’d be thoroughly bored. No hot chats on the side. ;)</p>

<p>dte - Public venues only…great solution!! Hugs to you and countingdown.</p>

<p>(I do the laundry basket thing too!)</p>

<p>U2?? I thought Bono was really injured in a recent biking accident.</p>