<p>Youdon’tsay - I don’t know if anyone can answer that question. 
Stats aren’t everything - there are recommendations, ECs, financial need, and probably some other factors that are often taken into consideration, and those things aren’t shown on Naviance.</p>
<p>Good point. I guess what has me thinking is someone on cc posted about a school as a match for her child – the same school that my son is looking at. But ds’s stats are significantly higher, and I wonder whether we are aiming too low. Maybe that school really is a safety for ds? That’s what got me looking at Naviance.</p>
<p>On of the challenges with Naviance is the amount of data in the system. At our school, unless you are applying to one of the traditional colleges, often times there will only be a few students in the system history that have also applied to that school. With such a small sample, you don’t know about the other factors that may have resulted in success or failure (e.g. EC, legacy, athletics, etc.). Only in after the data builds up to perhaps 20 or 30 kids do I think that the data is anything other than interesting…</p>
<p>PMK- Good luck as you plan out the future.<br>
We moved S for his senior year. Our choice was easier than yours, as we had no other options.
S asked for all of his references in early May of junior year, so that was no problem.
He didn’t click with any of his new teachers, and in fact didn’t like the new school, as they did so many things ‘differently’ than the old place,and had very little going on socially. However, he did make some good friends, and took a couple classes that he normally would not have chosen.</p>
<p>The biggest benefit- he was homesick for the old school during senior year, and by the time he got to college, he wasn’t homesick for high school at all.</p>
<p>The most useful thing about Naviance for me, is seeing some of the trends. For example, none of our graduates has ever gotten into Princeton. So, it’s a good idea to not bother with them. Also, some very selective schools ‘like’ our students, which makes some of those schools a match rather than the reach you would first expect.</p>
<p>D’s grades from this semester made it onto Naviance today. That’s amazing considering they are still showing her PSAT scores from 2 years ago (The most recent PSATs are on the system on her scores page, but for some reason do not make it onto the college match page).</p>
<p>Anyway, a whole lot more colleges popped up as possible matches based on her new GPA…some of them I think are REALLY good so I am in a good mood this morning.</p>
<p>We were able to edit test scores ourselves to update with new PSAT scores.</p>
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<p>Tell me your secrets, oh great one. I can’t figure out the dang system at all. It won’t let me update anything other than D’s profile.</p>
<p>I really envy all of you with Naviance. :(</p>
<p>Thanks to QM for mentioning collegedata.com the other day. I’ve been poking around on there a lot. </p>
<p>Do you think the collegedata.com members reflect the overall application pool accurately? That site is giving Son a lot more matches than we think he has. Bucknell? WFU? We have them down as reaches, but collegedata calls them maybes (matches). ::headscratch::</p>
<p>Good luck with your decision, Pugmadkate. You’ll be in my thoughts.</p>
<p>I logged on to see how I did it.</p>
<p>Once in, under the “About Me” section, click on the “my test scores” link on the left. When that page comes up, it says “My Test Scores” at the top, and there is an edit link to the right. Just click.</p>
<p>Maybe your school has it set up differently?</p>
<p>Yup. It is different. There is no “edit” button. I wonder why they did that?</p>
<p>Anyway, we’ve been eyeballing and estimating where she would be on the scattergrams because they have her a lot lower.</p>
<p>DougBetsy, Naviance really is great because you can see exactly where your child’s peers from the same school have gone before. I am sorry your school doesn’t have it. As far as collegedata, it makes D a match to almost everything, so I am not quite sure how accurate it is. Maybe here on CC we are all so jaded by all the “perfect” CC kids, we started seeing our average, normal kids as also-rans.</p>
<p>I know schools have the ability to tailor Naviance, so for whatever reason your school isn’t allowing this function.</p>
<p>viagra spam bumped the BWRK thread. My son is NOT that accomplished! I think there’s false advertising in there.</p>
<p>Did something happen? All of a sudden the college emails are coming again. A trickle for the past 3 months, now a flood this week. </p>
<p>Maybe the end of app season? Maybe that SAT II Son no-showed for put him on some mailing lists? </p>
<p>Is anyone else experincing a lot of emails these days? (Snail mail is still trickle. I blame that on the cost of production and postage.)</p>
<p>Yes! I didn’t realize it because ds created a college mail-only account, and I hadn’t looked at it in a week. Eleven new e-mails in there in the past four days but just a trickle of snail mail.</p>
<p>DougBetsey–Have you seen this link before? [url=<a href=“http://www2.newton.k12.ma.us/~brad_macgowan/naviance]Naviance[/url”>http://www2.newton.k12.ma.us/~brad_macgowan/naviance]Naviance[/url</a>] It’s a list of school naviance sites that allow guests to log in and look at the data. Although not as good as having it for your own school, it can give some idea. Bethesda-Chevy Chase High School is toward the bottom of the list.</p>
<p>I don’t recall College Data being very useful for identifying matches. It said everything was a match. Princeton Review wasn’t any better. Here’s what I’m using as a rough guide (I posted this before–someone on CC said it) and my D’s college counselor roughly came up with the same assessment (reach/match/safety) of the schools on her list. </p>
<p>"I would say that any school with an acceptance rate of under 20% is a reach for everyone. </p>
<p>A school with an acceptance rate of 20-40% is a match for anyone who scores in the top 25% of all applicants. </p>
<p>A school with an acceptance rate of 40% and greater is a safety for the top 25% of applicants."</p>
<p>But, of course, this is just based on scores, so it probably just assumes that grades and ECs are competitive.</p>
<p>we don’t have D’s data in naviance yet, will probably get that next week at our kickoff “Jr college planning night.” I use a guest account for now to see our HS’s data. Besides seeing what colleges seem to “like” our kids or not. It is also interesting to see schools which might accept kids with a wide range of SATs but a narrow range of gpa or vice versa.</p>
<p>The one thing I don’t really like is that on the scattergrams we can look at SAT 1600 scale, that’s the older years before the new SAT, or 2400 or ACT. But you don’t know what the kid actually submitted. Also some of the schools she is interested in are SAT optional, so you don’t know what was submitted or not. </p>
<p>But is is really helpful to see our grades in the context of admission results.</p>
<p>jackief: what I figured is that the 2400 scattergram, while not exact has to be more current than the entire 1600 scattergram since the new sat has only been around for a couple of years…</p>
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<p>I’m following something similar, but I seem to overlook the acceptance rate part of the formula. </p>
<p>Far reach = GPA <em>AND</em> SAT are below the midpoint, but within the 25% - 50% range.<br>
Reach = One score (GPA <em>OR</em> SAT) is above the midpoint, one below. Nothing under 25% range.
Match = GPA <em>AND</em> SAT are above the midpoint.
Safety = GPA and SAT are above the 75% range.</p>
<p>I’ve looked at the sample Naviance for Bethesda-Chevy Chase. Very cool. Thanks.</p>
<p>dougbetsy: unfortunately, these categories neglect to account for demographic issues…D1 was waitlisted at what would be considered safeties while other profiles were accepted with lower stats…I still think that any school with <30% admittance rate cannot be considered a safety…match, yes, but not a safety.</p>