<p>This is a topic every year on these boards. I"d like to clarify the process(my d was ELC this year) because some of the info here is not quite on the money:</p>
<p>1) School asks for authorization to submit transcript to UC system for review (FAP mentioned that) They have until July, I believe, to do that
2) You will get a letter in the summer saying that your child is being CONSIDERED for ELC status
3) Late Summer into Fall the determination is made. UC “Central” decides who is in the top 4% of their hs graduating class. You will get a letter saying, “Congrats; you are an ELC student”.<br>
4) In Sept/Oct you get letters from the campuses that will automatically accept you because you are ELC regardless of test scores as long as you fulfill UC requirements. The past couple of yrs. the schools have included UC Davis, UC Irvine, UC Santa Barbara so great safety schools at a minimum.<br>
5) Some campuses eg. UCSD give extra points in their comprehensive review system for ELC.
6) UC Berkeley and UCLA do NOT give extra weight to ELC, but because ELC students are generally strong academically many get in and many also get Regents at UC Irvine and UCSB.
WORD of WARNING: Don’t count on your student getting ELC no matter how great a student they are. It is sometimes “quirky” as to who gets the designation and parents are up in arms. You might have a student in the top 4% of their hs class based on the designation of your school district, but NOT based on the UC calculation.
Hope this is helpful, if not a little bit long!</p>
<p>The list of where current seniors are going to be going to college next year is out and it is heavy on the instate publics. I think it is more that last year, but I can’t be sure. Quite few top tier schools are represented too.</p>
<p>I envy all of you who get to know where the seniors head after high school. We don’t get that info. No naviance, no list. Nuttin’. :(</p>
<p>DB:</p>
<p>Why don’t you ask your HS if they’d be willing to ask seniors to make this info public? I can understand their caution in not “publishing” if the student doesn’t want to, but don’t you think many of them are out there gabbing this information with their friends?</p>
<p>Our GC request that once students have made their decision, to forward a copy of the acceptance letter. This is placed on a bulletin board (after redacting the student’s address) in a prominent location near the front office. At some point, the information is also printed in the student newspaper, which then gets picked up by the small local papers. </p>
<p>Since this is voluntary, I can’t imagine issues with it. Granted, it certainly doesn’t tell the whole story, and I’m going to guess that students going to the local CC are probably less inclined to brag about it.</p>
<p>Our list is based on student supplied info (as is naviance I think) but there were two or three students who just put “undecided”. At this late date I wonder what that could mean.</p>
<p>At D’s private school, a list was printed which showed how many kids were going to each school, but without names attached. For S’s public, the list is printed in the final issue of the school newspaper, complete with names. It just came out, and I see lots of publics (both in and OOS), but that’s common. There seem to be fewer HYP admissions this year: out of a class of about 350, there are 5 to P (we are traditionally something of a feeder school for them), 2 to H and 0 to Y. Last year the numbers were higher.</p>
<p>DougBetsy, you might ask to see a copy of the school profile that your school sends colleges. The list of acceptances is there for our school. It’s just a big list - it doesn’t tell you what proportion of the class went where, or if one person accounts for all the Ivy acceptances, but it’s better than nothing.</p>
<p>DB, interesting about your son and percussion. I guess he’s growing up. Which reminds me of something my SIL just sent me:</p>
<p>For all those who have boys … A boy becomes an adult three years before his parents think he does, and about two years after he thinks he does. ~Lewis B. Hershey, News summaries, 31 December 1951</p>
<p>I told her truer words were never spoken.</p>
<p>QM, about those college choices … I just got the list of who’s going where, and it’s interesting that some kids don’t share where they’re going. I always took that as a bad thing, but when I asked ds about one boy in particular he told me that he’s going to Cornell. Why wouldn’t you want people to know that??? :)</p>
<p>Our list showed what I thought was a higher-than-usual rate of in-state decisions. Several Ivies and top LACs (Pomona, two Carletons, Haverford, etc), too, but lots of A&Ms and Texas States as well.</p>
<p>Also, this morning I was talking to a mom whose ds (who goes to another HS) is going to a western OOS public, and I saw last night that the boy’s bandmate (rock band) who goes to my ds’s HS is also going there. I thought that was nice and mentioned it to her. She told me the kid at my ds’s school just got off a waitlist at an East Coast school and now might be changing his mind. I know he really wanted to go East, so that’s cool, though my friend is sad that her ds might not be going with his friend.</p>
<p>I REALLY hope that come early June next year, the day before graduation, we’re not still trying to figure it all out.</p>
<p>Obviously we know that often going to the prom is just a one time date but …</p>
<p>I was talking to a friend, who’s senior daughter is going to the prom with a good friend of my S’s, also a senior. Come fall, both of them are going to USC. Her daughter is pre-med and he will be a physics major (his father is on the Earth Science dept faculty.) Anyway, my friend said she was very happy her daughter picked someone who’s very intelligent, studious and a nice guy, which describes him well.</p>
<p>My H noted the possibility of them being perhaps one of the few Israeli-German and Korean couples on campus (noting their ancestry.) It’s SO the melting pot of LA.</p>
<p>Where the seniors are going is always included in our graduation announcement - not by which person to which place but simply a list of all of the next stops for the seniors - including non college ones like the Army. </p>
<p>I’m not a huge fan of publishing by name. Seems to me that a list by name simply highlights success and failure publicly. In some cases, it tells only a small piece of the story - and reflects unfairly on the accomplishments of some of the students. </p>
<p>As many on here will remember, my 08 son ended up at the local JC because he had an knee injury and the rehab extended into the fall. People who did not know that might think - “Wow, what happened - I thought he was smart” (and he has had a year of those types of comments). The fact that he got into many of the top schools on the west coast would not be reflected in that “status”</p>
<p>He had a classmate whose family unexpectedly ran into financial troubles. It was too late to apply to many of the state schools - so he quickly applied to one of the open California State Universities. A list would have shown him going to CSU East Bay instead the Ivy that he was admitted to and was unable to afford following the financial crisis. No need to highlight this painful reality in my mind.</p>
<p>I am sure there are many other stories like this - but those are just two from my son’s class of around 180 kids.</p>
<p>scualum:</p>
<p>Good point. Just a list with colleges but no student names does provide some of the basic info that parents are interested in. Besides, I think many of the parents “in the know” could give a pretty good guess at where certain students have landed, or can just ask their S or D if they are dying of curiousity.</p>
<p>Or, they can do like I did and get a little bit of the inside scoop (confidentially, of course) by volunteering to be a scholarship reviewer for one of our local groups who contributes to the Community Scholarships. This was one of the most fun three hours I’ve spent on a school related event, just getting a snapshot of what our community is producing as graduating seniors.</p>
<p>Maybe I’ll feel differently when next year, but I like seeing kids’ names with places. I like to figure out why so-and-so picked such-and-such place. For instance, I see that the two in a long-term relationship are going OOS together. No long-distance relationship for them. The kid with all the great options whose mom wanted him to stay in-state went with MIT instead. Also, we include area of study, and that’s always a surprise. Why so many engineers???</p>
<p>Engineering gives a nice income immediately after graduation. A lot of parents like that.</p>
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<p>For students with a math/science bent, it’s easier to imagine employment possibilities with an engineering degree. It’s certainly not an easy road, that’s for sure. Biomedical engineering seems to be a hot major these days.</p>
<p>For the past three weeks I have been dealing with the flu. First it was my H then one of my Ss. Everyone is fine now.
I don’t know what’s going on, but both of my kids’ schools have high # of kids with strep throat and flu. I don’t know why they don’t end the school year now instead of next week (since finals are over).
Now back to the topic
The school send a list in the summer. The list shows how many people got into a school and the # who are attending. However, since by Dec. quite a few people already got into a school, and people talk openly about where they are going, the list tend to be old news.
youdon’tsay, quite a few kids who listed engineering as their major ended up doing something else.
My S who is only interested in math and physics thinks he wants to do engineering. Time will tell.
My D who never wanted to take a computer class in HS is now considering a major which requires CS.
I also have to add that I personally never met an unemployed engineer.</p>
<p>ontheedge - There are lots of unemployed engineers right now especially in SoCal. My DH is one of them although he has been doing some contract work so is not technically unemployed at the moment. Many engineering jobs have gone offshore so the demand is not as great as it has been in the past. </p>
<p>We know a couple of engineering graduates who have not yet landed jobs in their fields. In the past my DH usually had his choice of companies to go to, but at this point many of the ones he has talked to want us to move somewhere else which is not what we want to do with 2 DDs in highschool.</p>
<p>Showmom858, sorry to hear about your DH.
I should add that most of the engineers that I know are civil and mechanical.
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<p>DH and I are structural engineers. our work doesn’t get sent offshore. We’re still busy, although it looks as if we may be a little slow shortly. We did get laid off several times during the '90s - that’s why we started our own business. It’s been much more stable for us! It’s just the two of us, and we work at home, so we can keep overhead low. It’s worked out really well.</p>
<p>S is trying to decide between undergraduate business school (likely double major accounting / computer of some sort) and IT type degree (engineering, math, etc.). Any thoughts on the long term job prospects in these fields. Accounting has generally been fairly recession proof; however I just heard that my cousin’s son was supported to start at one of the major firms upon graduation (just below the Big 4) and was pushed back to November. I’m not sure if it had anything to do with not passing the CPA exam or if they just aren’t having the normal turnover since the current associates don’t have other jobs to go to right now.</p>