<p>My son was advised to take the Math 1 because he is still in precal, but after reading that the curve is harder for it than Math 2 I’m reconsidering. </p>
<p>What do y’all think?</p>
<p>You said he’s still in precalc. Come June, if he does well in precalc and does self-prep for the Math 2 from one of the books, he should do reasonably well. My S decided, based on a conversation with my H (the math professor) and for reasons unknown to me, to wait until last June to take Math 2. By then he had completed honors trig/math analysis and AP Calc BC. He clearly didn’t need the AP Calc BC to take the test. Now he’s taking an on line class in linear algebra, which is a lot of work when balanced with his three other APs (Physics C, English Language and US History.)</p>
<p>My Son tried the Math I and Math II practice tests from CB. Scored 590 on I and 620 on II. He is high-verbal, low math and found the II to be difficult. He’s currently taking trig and stat, no precalc yet. Said II had logarithyms (sp -1), which he has never seen. </p>
<p>Since he has ruled out math, science, and CS for college we’ve decided he’ll drop out of both Math subject tests. He was scheduled for them on 1/24. He’ll probably end-up with USH, World, and French. Not as well-rounded as FAP’s DS, but he is probably just as skinny. 
(And, luckily, only 2 schools on his list of 15 recommend SAT II. Nobody requires them. A few use them for placement.)</p>
<p>Wow, he’s a junior??? My son won’t take AP Calc until next year, or AP Physics, he’s in Pre-AP of those now. </p>
<p>The only AP’s he has so far are AP World History last year, AP English and AP American History this year.</p>
<p>That is pretty standard for his school. Your son must be really advanced!!!</p>
<p>Doug Betsy, even though he thought Math II was difficult and had things he hadn’t seen, he still scored higher? That’s why I’m wondering if he should not take the Math I.</p>
<p>He has one lesson left with the SAT Math Tutor, I emailed them to let him know that he was not going to take the regular SAT since we were happy with his ACT, and that he was now going to just take Math I and to redo the lesson for that. We (especially my son) are hoping that he can do well enough for placement in the program he is looking into and that we can say Sayonara to standardized testing.</p>
<p>And, since this is my last child, it will be a HUGE RELIEF!!!</p>
<p>Math Level I goes through Alg II, but has an unforgiving curve. Math II goes through Pre-Calc – much more forgiving curve. S2, who gets Bs in math no matter how hard he tries, took Math Level II after pre-calc as a soph and got a highly respectable score. He earned a steak dinner for it! :D</p>
<p>CountingDown: My S earned a sushi meal (his choice.)</p>
<p>ag54: My S “rides the tiger” to claw for B+/A- in his AP social studies classes. It’s just the way he’s wired. What makes me smile is when I hear he’s free with his “down time” in the photo class or lunch time (after school is pool time) to help his friends out in tutoring math. He hasn’t even kept track for service hours, nor does he charge for kids he knows. I guess he feels it’s his way to help them out.</p>
<p>ag, does your son need SAT IIs if he took the ACT?</p>
<p>Youdon’tsay - congrats to your S1 on his great score, and to S2 on making the basketball team. I remember those days well - very nerve-wracking. Tryouts for D are just for show at this point, I think (that sounds obnoxious, but it’s not - the same could be said for about 2/3 of the team). For S, all the teams he’s on or interested in joining are “walk-ons,” so no tryouts are involved.</p>
<p>Mathmom - my D will most likely be taking those exact SAT IIs this June. I’ll cross my fingers that she does as well as your S, or close to it! Amazing results. She’s not 100% sure about the physics SAT II yet - she’s already taken 2 sciences and done pretty well (not 800s though). She’ll definitely take USH and Math II, saving physics for last.</p>
<p>FindAPlace - my D is in pre-calc this year, and she’ll be taking the Math II exam in June. Must order those practice tests from CB already!</p>
<p>Summary of Elon info session</p>
<p>About 80 people attended the meeting at a Sheraton. The audience was high school juniors, seniors awaiting app decisions, and seniors accepted in EA and ED. The agenda included:</p>
<p>12 minute video with campus beauty shots and comments from students, faculty, and administrators. One central theme of the video was the schools emphasis on the five Elon Experiences: Internships, Research, Service Learning, Study Abroad, and Leadership.</p>
<p>A student spoke about all the internship opportunities and professional contacts she has been making thanks to Elons reputation, strong internship office, and alum network.</p>
<p>Dean of Arts and Sciences (incoming Provost) gave a nitty gritty slide show tour of campus buildings. (Expanded on shots the video merely glossed over.) Then he gave the admins philosophy of educating the whole student, transforming lives, one-on-one learning, getting to know our kids, yada yada. </p>
<p>A math education major spoke next. He described all the ways he has accomplished the Elon Experiences (listed above). He said most kids are able to finish four out of the five. He had finished three and was working on his fourth. Said if he had to describe Elon in one word, it would be happy. Happy students, happy groups, happy staff, happy school. </p>
<p>Next was the Dean of Admissions. He quickly ran through all the stats, rankings, and deadlines. Mentioned fin aid, emphasized the importance of demonstrating interest, and having the applicant handle all communication with the school. Dont think calls from parents, Congresspeople, alums sway an admission decision. The students demonstrated interest is the biggest influence. I liked this guy. He seemed to have a real grasp of what it’s like to search for a college. Plus, it was entertaining to hear a fast-talking southern accent. </p>
<p>Lastly an Elon parent spoke. Her D graduated 08 and her S will enter this fall. She actually got choked up describing how good the school has been for her D. </p>
<p>At this point the regional rep closed the meeting. He invited us to stick around and ask questions of any speaker or other staffers who were in attendance. Thats when the room became one big traffic jam and taking our questions to anyone would have meant waiting a long time for someone to be available. So we left.</p>
<p>H and I went to the session liking Elon. We left loving it. S remains neutral. He said the meeting was a walking/talking brochure and all brochures look the same to him. Hell form an opinion after we tour this summer. </p>
<p>Feel free to ask any questions.</p>
<p>Thank you, DougBetsy.</p>
<p>I was looking at Elon for D (she of course is not yet interested). I am glad you liked it.</p>
<p>DougBetsy - lol -your son’s comment sounds like something my D would have said - it’s her excuse for not looking at her college mail (“it all sounds the same,” or “they send that to everyone”). Glad to hear that you and your H came away with a positive feeling about the Elon. </p>
<p>Don’t think I mentioned this, but my D’s school held a financial aid meeting for parents of juniors and seniors. Not sure how helpful it was, but the speaker was at least somewhat entertaining. Unfortunately, most of the session was devoted to federal aid and filling out fafsa, as well as a tiny bit of info on the NY State financial aid program. I was amazed at the small number of parents who actually turned up at the meeting! Everyone here thinks they make too much to qualify for aid! I think that it can’t hurt to apply, and am pretty sure that sometimes to qualify for merit or athletic money, you need to have the fafsa on file. Plus, if there’s a change in the family’s circumstances, it helps to have the papework already on file too. The speaker touched on those situations, but I think for a school like D, those are important details and more time should have been spent there. It wasn’t completely her fault - people had a lot of questions about the small details (not that they weren’t important), but the meeting lasted over 2 hours and barely seemed to scratch the surface of FA.</p>
<p>Who here has Naviance at their school? We just got it, and I don’t know where to find those scatterplots everyone always talks about.</p>
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<p>Same thing happens at our hs. This happens because parents don’t really know the true cost of college. Many don’t get involved and let “Little Johnny” apply wherever he wants to. They do not look at prices until the bill comes in! So many read about free rides and scholarships and magically think that their child will get a free ride too. There are so many books about finding scholarships, unclaimed money for college, etc. People do not wake up until the spring. You read on cc every year that a disappointed kid finds out that mom and dad are not going to contribute a dime for college! If one has that attitude, one might not need to fill out FA forms! Many in our generation worked their way through college, and they think that their kiddo can do the same thing! Somehow painting a few houses, or working as a waiter no longer pays that tuition bill.</p>
<p>YDS:
Once you’ve signed in, on the Welcome page look on the left-hand menu under “About College”. Then choose “scattergrams”.</p>
<p>It’s possible that your school either won’t have scattergrams, hasn’t put them up yet, or they are down temporarily while they are updating them. Ours disappeared over Christmas, but reappeared in January. I assume they were putting in EA/ED results. Interestingly I can access our Naviance site either through my older son’s password (graduated 2007) or my current junior. But only the current student has the scattergram link. I’d ask if it doesn’t show up soon - I’m sure it’s a lot of work to plug in the data, but it’s by far the most useful part of the site.</p>
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<p>Yes, but only for “math readiness”.</p>
<p>Thanks. There is no scattergrams link, so I’m guessing it’s not up. This is the first year we’ve had it, so I’m guessing there is no data from previous years to enter.</p>
<p>I noticed the new PSAT scores aren’t up yet so the comparison stuff is still old as it has his sophomore PSAT as the basis for comparison.</p>
<p>This will be really cool once it’s all up and running and there’s a data history. Maybe in time for S2.</p>
<p>Gotcha, ag. Does the school feel Math I is a sufficient gauge of readiness? If so, then I say let him take it and see how he does. If he knocks it out of the park, then you can be done with it. If he doesn’t, then he can always try Math II in June.</p>
<p>northeastmom - I think that for the most part, parents in my area know how much college costs, but they think they make too much money to qualify for aid. That may be true of federal or state aid, but some schools want a financial aid form on file before they award merit aid or athletic aid. Most of the parents at the meeting last night were immigrants and totally unfamiliar with the financial aid/college process. The woman in front of me was taking meticulous notes! Most of the information presented was stuff I already knew - but hearing it made it all seem more real. </p>
<p>Youdon’tsay - D’s school has Naviance, but we still haven’t received access to it, though I believe we should have by now.</p>