Parents of the HS Class of 2014

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<p>But the trick is to not turn all perfectionist crazy and hate every moment of life while pushing yourself. I don’t know if that can be taught.</p>

<p>I think that my early poor schooling may have been a blessing in disguise. Until 10th grade I went to schools in various poor farming communities where I do think I was probably among the very smartest students. By the time I got to a better school system, it was in my brain that I should always get the highest grade.</p>

<p>My friend has a son who is more on the perfectionist crazy level. He’s only in 8th grade but his grades are not just all As, they are all 100s. My D went in to see a teacher one day after class and this boy was sitting in the room, sobbing. It seems he had received an 87 on a test. His first B on anything ever. It was the end of the world for him. The teacher asked my happy as a clam A/B student to console him. That is the type of student who could have a breakdown if he ever encounters the GPA buster teacher.</p>

<p>^Again, totally agree. You just said it better. :slight_smile: My youngest, 2014, is so crazy glad for his birth order. We’ve been through a gifted/LD student, a very high achieving student, and now him who is a great student, but so laid back. I must say we are far more ‘go with the flow’ where he’s concerned.</p>

<p>I know some of those kids who think the world is going to cave in with their first ‘less than perfect grade’. It’s very sad. You just want to mess up their hair once in a while, or untuck their shirt. Fold a corner on their paper, color outside the lines a bit!!</p>

<p>Like another poster stated, many students tend to compete with each other, but my D’s focus is to get every point to keep her A in each class. D could care less about anyone else. She’s figured out the preferred writing styles of her rhetoric teacher vs. her history teacher and writes her papers based on each teacher’s preferred style. She knows her biology teacher could care less if you can memorize a 1000 terms, but if you cannot explain in words GP3, or the process & purpose of glycolysis., then you’re going to fail. Also, she knows her history teacher is a tough grader, thus, D happily completes every extra credit project or readings offered since grades are based on a point scale. Some of her classmates who only plan to apply to HYPES think D wastes her time doing busy work. perhaps the assignments constitute busy work, but if D is 3 points away from a 100 on a weekly test, and she does the extra credit one-page paper & earns 5 points–well, you do the math. </p>

<p>It helps that her G-d sister attends one of the other top schools in the area and guides D about note-taking, studying smarter & not harder, and writing papers. Her G-d sister, a senior this year applied to many top LACs, and is making sure D follows, too. </p>

<p>If a student has the drive & desire, they’ll get into one of their reach schools, as the student will have done everything in their power to do so via grades, ECs, tests & essays. I also think interviews come into play as well. And now that we see that D interviews well, we’re making sure to have her do so in the future. </p>

<p>Yes, many students hurt themselves by over-extending with heavy course loads filled to capacity with AP classes. D has no desire to do so, and with reason; she wishes to enjoy high school. Yep, the grinders will spend all their days studying & grade grabbing, but is it worth the sacrifice of one’s social life or time to delve into activities of interest? D thinks not. </p>

<p>D dances 3-4 days per week, volunteers 4 hours a week tutoring elementary children, is politically active, and likes to hang out with her friends. These activities are important to D, and she’s not willing to give them up so she can be #1 in her class–there’s to many issues in the world she needs to tackle. If doing so hurts her chances at top LACs, so be it–it wasn’t meant to be–D understands this. She understands that from here on out she may not have time to sleep in on the weekends if she is to fit everything into her busy schedule. </p>

<p>Kids need balance between school & life while keeping focus on the prize at the end of high school, possible matriculation into their dream school.</p>

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<p>That was totally me in school…figure out what the teacher wants and give it to them. I have always said that I was never gifted…I was just good at school.</p>

<p>One of the things I have noticed with teachers is the “halo” effect. Do you recall learnng about that in psych in college or mgt classes…
where teacher’s perceptions clearly affect how they grade…and how they will give the high achiever the “benefit of the doubt” for a poorer work on occassion. Or they will be generous in grading because the kid is “so nice” and they want to be encouraging…</p>

<p>I have seen it play out–and have seen how that some kids who thought they were top of the heap, are shocked to find out that without that “halo”, their work doesn’t hold up to the same scrutiny elsewhere…</p>

<p>I have seen kids who were boastful about middle school accomplishments get slammed when the hs work was much harder.</p>

<p>Part of the problem is the “trophy” mentality where every kid gets a trophy for participation…kwim</p>

<p>Missypie–that bio cell story is quite something!
I have seen where the bio teachers have different exams–for example; one has 100 mc and 2 essays, and the other has 50 mc and 1 essay…
I understand autonomy for teachers however I believe there should be departmental standards…
The cell illustrates that well…the perfect score verses the lowest passing grade makes no sense.</p>

<p>For reasons related to courses completed in college, many of our coaches are science teachers. (Some of the middle school science teachers are only offered a contract if they will agree to coach.) Many of them teach freshman biology. The kids who aren’t interested in science love getting the coach teachers because they generally give very high grades for very little work. (D was crushed when she got the “real” bio teacher [the one who also teaches AP Bio] but she’s doing well.)</p>

<p>I’m not slamming all coach teachers. Son had a Geometry teacher who was a coach and he was terrific. It just seems like the ones who coach football are distracted for most of first semester.</p>

<p>I am so happy to have this group. I’m a little concerned about my daughters school. She goes to a very small Christian school which is wonderful but has no AP, honors or IB classes. I love the values of this school but other than getting good grades which won’t have any weight(?) what can she do? We would love for her to go to either University of Minn at Duluth or Concordia in Moorehead but she will just be an average student on her admission forms. The school has no desire to discuss anything to do with college preperation until shes a junior. Can I get a guidance counslor outside the school system?</p>

<p>This was posted on the '11 thread and it’s terrific!</p>

<p>[A</a> Father’s Acceptance: His Son Won’t Follow His Ivy Footsteps - NYTimes.com](<a href=“http://thechoice.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/20/a-fathers-acceptance/]A”>A Father's Acceptance: His Son Won't Follow His Ivy Footsteps - The New York Times)</p>

<p>Competing for Val has to come from within (like missypie). It can be really stressful for even a really gifted kid who does not have the competetive gene. My D is very good at school, but does not have that “I-am-going-to-be-numer-1” edge. I just told her at the beginning of freshman year that “you should not worry about being first in your class. You need to manage your time, do all your assignments on time, and be able to look in the mirror and know that you did your best. If you get a B, so be it. If you get a C, you lose your cell phone.” ;)</p>

<p>“If you get a B, so be it. If you get a C, you lose your cell phone.” </p>

<p>Shared that with od2. She laughed. Our first quarter just ended. Par for the course, the kids lowest grade is in Home Ec.</p>

<p>Hey Missy</p>

<p>I loved that link…what a wonderful wonderful essay. The Choice often has great items…I always forget about it and appreciate the CCer s who post the links ;o)</p>

<p>Welcome NewFaith. SO glad you are here. Several people on thie thread are also parents of current Srs…so there is lots of experience to tap.
Feel free to PM me if you need anything ;o)</p>

<p>“If you get a B, so be it. If you get a C, you lose your cell phone.”</p>

<p>Wish I could hold this over my son’s head, but where we live, there is no cell service.</p>

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<p>Just to correct the record, I was not Val. I got a B in Art first semester freshman year because I cannot draw. (Shows that I was not a truly competitive student; those types don’t take art when they can’t draw.) Second semester I wised up and did every extra credit project possible, to compensate for my lack of talent. But it was already too late to be val, which was actually a blessing since it took off the pressure. One poor classmate got her only B at the end of Sr. year…she had been in the running until then!</p>

<p>Missypie: I just meant that you well illustrate the drive from within.</p>

<p>I just wanted to make it clear because some folks on CC have INCREDIBLE memories.</p>

<p>Happyboy’s football season is over. They lost the last 2 games and that is all these freshman will remember, not that they won the first 8. I didn’t get teary but each year will get harder and harder to complete something. </p>

<p>The end of the quarter is Friday. Luckily there will be no surprises since grades are online now. Any more freshman updates?</p>

<p>Son’s cross country season came to an end today. I think he is glad, in a way, that it’s over. He has been juggling four academic subjects, cross country, academic team practice (its season has started and they are 2-1) and a club or two. I think he’ll welcome the break, although he does plan to train on his own this winter. As for grades, he was beaming today. He has a 96 in his Cambridge English class. This is the kid who detests English. He loves math, and his average in Algebra II is a 106.</p>

<p>29happymom26: In time they will remember the struggle, the comraderie, the hard work and the journey.</p>

<p>Morning All</p>

<p>Not much news in or house–
Our freshman is focused on the college apps process of the older sibling—waiting to celebrate etc…
Enjoying hs, and I am hoping our freshie is realizing that these grades count.</p>

<p>D cheers at her last football agme tonight. It will be a while before basketball starts, which gives them time to work on their competition routine. D is back spot on two cheer teams and every night she shows me all of her bruises. Cheer is not for sissies!</p>