Parents of the HS Class of 2014

<p>Okay, have already sent this link to SeattleMom, but now that CT1417 has asked also . . .</p>

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<p>Not updated since August 2012, so it may no longer by entirely accurate, but I’m taking it at face value and not worrying about it too much. If you want to be sure, then call the college and ask.</p>

<p>What I’ve found with regard to uploading stuff to Common App schools is that most of the schools that have supplemental essays also allow uploads. The ones with no supplements do not.</p>

<p>I’m still trying to figure out how to provide schools with a link to an applicant’s website, YouTube video, or whatever. Anyone know the best way to do that?</p>

<p>CHECK YOUR STUDENT’S TRANSCRIPT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS RIGHT!!!</p>

<p>I was alerted that there were issues with my son’s transcript yesterday. And, of all people to send me the information – the regional rep for Alabama. She first worked with my older son more than four years ago.</p>

<p>Got an e-mail from her after we wanted to have Alabama change my son’s SAT that was listed. It was an old score from his freshman year. We soon discovered that his transcript did not have the most recent score. She also gave us his GPA, which was wrong. It also did not have his AP scores. We already sent the college counselor at his HS a note regarding this. Now, the school needs to correct the transcript issues with the right scores and GPA and resend them to all of his schools. My son plans to check everything before it goes out.</p>

<p>Fortunately, this is August, not February.</p>

<p>End of alert.</p>

<p>Meanwhile, we survived Week 1 of school. Son '14 loves his classes. The to do list this weekend includes registering for the October SAT, along with some much needed rest. It was a long week that included Back to School Night and a cross country scrimmage.</p>

<p>Wow that’s a lot of mistakes on the transcript! Luckily DS has had to send his to coaches to get prereads so we’ve had a chance to look at it before now. All was correct thankfully.</p>

<p>As I helped BarnardGirl pack last night to return to NYC today for her second year, my mind wandered to next year at this time- and an empty nest- and how I don’t know what I’ll do with myself then. Oh my.</p>

<p>momreads - we had issues with transcript, as well. It made the difference in being outside the bubble of top 10%. Once corrected, he ended up well within the top 10%. But then I wonder if those that he jumped ahead of also had mistakes on their transcripts and did he really jump up that many places??? I guess if they don’t question it won’t be changed. I’m guessing the school won’t voluntarily hand compute 543 students’ transcripts!</p>

<p>DS received a letter today from Alabama that confirmed his Presidential scholarship!! woohoo! I know he’s going to go somewhere! :wink: He just needs to get busy on honors college app. He also signed up for our in-state honors convocation (info session) that will be next month. In-state has not given out acceptance letters yet even though they’re on rolling admissions.</p>

<p>AND he worked on Eagle Scout project!! He came home and showed me before & after video. He’s working on a mountain bike trail that gets real swampy in the rainy season. Putting in a gravel pit and bridge. Today he and about 6 other teens dug out a 50 ft by 3 ft section about 1/2 foot deep.</p>

<p>AND … he got called from our elementary school to tutor a student! That’s only one afternoon a week, but it’s a JOB! He did that last year and made pretty good money. So maybe he will have another student or two that he can add to this first one.</p>

<p>beadymom – that is AWESOME! Congrats to your DS! In college and with honors and free money – doesn’t get much better than that!</p>

<p>barnardmom – I was doing errands with S and realized this time next year he’ll be gone. Not gone like dead gone, but gone nonetheless. I’m not letting myself feel it, but I think there are some serious tears ahead of me. And celebrations.</p>

<p>beadymom- So much terrific news! I can’t wait to hear from all these Scouts when those Eagle Courts of Honor start getting posted! I think we’re hoping to do his over Thanksgiving so his sister can be home for it. </p>

<p>Classof2015. I have many mixed feelings about that empty nest. There will be tears and celebrations both. It’s been a very long 20 years in some ways. In other ways, it feels like they were just infants. My very, very wise mother told me once- The hardest thing about being a parent is that, if you do your job right, they leave. </p>

<p>After dedicating so much of my time raising these two incredibly accomplished young adults, I’m also tired. I made some new window treatments for my family room last week and thought about how I used to make things ALL the time. I have fabric I purchased to make clothes for work that I’ve never gotten done. I can’t wait to learn how to quilt. I’m looking forward to losing the pressure of cooking dinner every single night and packing lunches and doing so much laundry. I’m looking forward to knowing where EVERYTHING is because it is where I left it the last time I used it. How cool will that part be? LOL I’m just kind of ready to see what I can do with my life again. </p>

<p>On the other hand, on top of loving these two young adults, I also really like who they are as people. We have great dinner conversations about interesting topics and I simply just enjoy them a lot.</p>

<p>College visit update from the week of August 5th. As indicated before, we spent a week on the road visiting various colleges across the mid-south in early August on our way south for vacation. I finally found enough time to recap our visits and opinions regarding the schools we visited. I am breaking up the visit summary into one section per school so I don’t run onto too many pages.</p>

<p>William & Mary, Williamsburg, VA. We arrived and D checked in for the morning info session and tour. The info session was part video that was well done along with both a student and an admissions counselor who jointly addressed the audience with the entire range of issues related to the school, admissions, academics, campus activities, etc. It was a bit different than the standard Adcon presentations and I believe helped greatly with the presentation. As we left on the tour, it was raining steadily. As we progressed on the tour, it turned into a downpour. We finally got into the first building and held there for ten minutes before progressing. All we saw up to that point was flooded sidewalks (all red brick) and streets due to the rain. We also couldn’t hear a thing the tour guide was saying due to the noise of the rain on the umbrella.</p>

<p>In summary, the rain let up after about 15 – 20 minutes and the rest of the tour was good as we were able to see and hear. The guide was good and the students and parents were asking good questions and receiving good feedback. As expected, the campus is beautiful as one would expect in a historical community such as Williamsburg. The building range from old to new although the exteriors are all of the red brick Georgian and colonial design you would expect of this school. The dorms are standard with nothing special either way. The biggest issue here is that the school admits 63% of the class from in state and the balance out of state. This makes the school fairly selective. In addition, the OOS tuition is a detriment and the FA is more along the lines of a public school vs. a well endowed private school. DD liked the campus, programs, and students she met. We completed our tour and went to lunch and then returned for her interview. She spent 40 minutes with the interviewer when the allotted time was supposed to be 25 minutes. She felt very positive about the conversation which was fairly general but did probe her strengths, outside activities and service programs. W&M will stay on her list but the FA may kill it if she is admitted.</p>

<p>Wake Forest University, Winston-Salem, NC. We toured Wake with DD in 2012 as she saw the campus with her older brother in 2010 on his visit and wanted to go back. This visit was just for an interview. The interview was with an Adcon and lasted 25 minutes. She was a bit surprised about some of the questions she was asked as they were academically oriented and included questions about summer book readings, AP assignments for the summer, and plans for the senior year. It was much different than the senior student interview at W&M. We did not attend the info session or tour as we had done this in prior years. The campus is more isolated than some others as the school is on a self-contained campus. While there are residential areas around the campus, it is a few miles from downtown W-S. This school is test optional but their supplement requires 6 or 7 supplemental essays/short answers. It is currently up in the air.</p>

<p>High Point University, High Point, NC. Where do I start? This school was unknown until last spring when DD’s HS GC mentioned it and suggested that we have a look. It’s in High Point, NC, about 40 – 45 minutes from Winston-Salem and Greensboro. We left Wake Forest and arrived in High Point before noon. We were signed up for the 2 PM session (they allow you to schedule on the hour from 9 to 3 PM). We thought we would find the Admissions office and see if we could change to the 1 PM session and then have lunch. We pulled into the main drive and stopped at the security hut where they found our name on their visitor’s list. He checked us off, told us where our assigned parking space was and where to go to the Admissions registration office. We easily found our parking space as each space has an electronic reader board sign in front of it with the visiting student’s name and state blazing in lights. We left the car and walked towards the Admissions reception building. The first thing we noticed was that the buildings were all brick and most had large white columns. Also, the school colors or purple and white were everywhere. The campus was immaculate. On our walk over, I didn’t see one piece of litter, one leaf on the grass, any uncut grass, any unedged walks, any cigarette butts, there were no gum stains on the pavement, nothing. Just perfection everywhere. I am in the property management business and I have never seen anything like it. It looked more like a movie set or a showcase for model homes and buildings.</p>

<p>The Admissions reception office is in the student center, next to the bookstore and Starbucks. The staff was very welcoming and accommodating. They got us signed in for the 1 PM session and provided several suggestions for lunch. We returned from lunch which was in an older shopping center we had passed on our way into town. It turns out the University has purchased the center and is in the process of converting it into academic and other facilities.</p>

<p>We reported back at 1 PM for our session. It turns out that HP doesn’t have general information sessions. They pair you up with a student tour guide and in our case one other parent and son and we were off on our tour in our own private 6 person golf cart. To say the campus was impressive is an understatement. The first stop was the performing arts center. Red brick façade with tall white columns. Its on their “international walk” that displays flags from the nations of all students and plays classical music over the outside speakers for 10 – 12 hours per day. Along the way up the walkway we made a couple of more stops in academic buildings. Again, perfectly maintained and clean as a whistle. The interiors are the same way. The building lobbies are highly decorated with inlaid floors of marble and other stone. The millwork is high end as are the furnishings. As part of the core of the North Carolina furniture industry, any of the common spaces in these buildings could have served as showrooms for the furniture manufactures. The lobbies looked more like Ritz or Waldorf lobbies than college academic buildings.</p>

<p>The library and dining facilities were more of the same. There wasn’t a scuff mark, tom piece of furniture, knicked wall or any other blemish anywhere to be seen. The library was fully modern and functional with a large number of computer stations (both Mac and PC). The business school has the latest technology in its classrooms including a live trading room with Bloomberg terminals. The Communications school included fully equipped top shelf TV production studios, classrooms, a gaming programming studio, and a full editing studio. Everything we saw was in pristine condition and was state of the art.</p>

<p>Dining and dorms. Dining is offered at several locations on campus. The most unusual dining option was a group of several small open air kiosks that were scattered across the campus. It turns out that during the academic year they are staffed every morning for breakfast on the go items such as juice, fruit, or a muffin that are there for the taking on your way across campus. The more conventional dining facilities also exist for all meals. The most unusual dining facility on campus is the Prime Steak House. It’s a private restaurant located on the 4th floor of the student center. Students may eat there once per week by making a reservation. It’s a 4 star restaurant. The purpose, according to our tour guide, is to teach students how to dine and behave in such an environment as they will encounter in the real business world. Guests (parents) may join their kids in the restaurant for $50 a piece fixed price. The kids eat free as part of their meal plan. Hang on, there’s more. We haven’t gotten to the dorms yet. :D</p>

<p>There are three types of dorms at HP. The “basic” dorm is a two bedroom suite with a connecting shared bathroom. The mid-level dorm ($750 per semester extra) is the basic dorm with a small kitchenette in half of the two room suite. By the way, the mid level dorms offer double beds. And the bathrooms have full framed hotel like mirrors over the twin sink vanity that, by the way, has a granite countertop. It looks more like a Marriott Courtyard or a Ritz bathroom than a college dorm. The downside is that they are only cleaned 3 times per week. :(</p>

<p>The top level dorm is the apartment style where there are two single bed bedrooms, a full bath, kitchen, dining and living room area. Nicer than my first apartment out of college. These are in the $1100 to $1200 extra per semester range. Freshmen are on the main campus and upperclassmen are a few blocks away as the campus is growing. But there is a large fleet of purple and white shuttle busses that run on five minute intervals all during the year. We were not able to see the basic dorms as they were completing their annual renovation and the asphalt parking lot was being seal coated and striped. Laundry machines are in each dorm and included as is cable service and wifi.</p>

<p>Following our tour we were dropped off at the Admissions building which was different from the reception area we started at. There we actually met with the regional Adcon for our student’s area. They spent about 40 minutes with us reviewing the admissions process and answering any questions related to the campus and school. They avoided FA discussion until asked. The Adcon then talked about their scholarship program which is based on grades, test scores and an interview weekend. These merit scholarships range from $2,000 per year up to about $30,000 for their top students. Their average GPA and test scores for last year’s class was a 3.3 with a 1000 – 1050 SAT (out of 1600) and an ACT of 24 – not the most stellar numbers.</p>

<p>In summary, there is a lot to see on this campus. They are trying to enhance all of their facilities and academic programs. It appears that they are have put a lot of their resources into the “sizzle” or the show as the campus is a showplace. I am a little concerned about the overall level of the academic programs although the school has earned some high marks in the ratings and has been noted as one of the most improved and up and coming schools in its region. I think that the academic “steak” is still a bit rare and the only place to get the good steak is in their dining hall steak house. Two other things that bothered me was when asked who the famous alumni were, our tour guide could only come up with the name of the current university president, who by the way, was the person responsible for most of the recent upgrades and campus enhancements. As an alum herself, I was surprised by her grammar and speech during our post tour meeting. I would not expect a college graduate to use the wrong verb tenses and to be unable to clearly understand and answer my questions regarding the FA programs at their school. Made me take pause and wonder a bit.</p>

<p>While impressed, DD’s GPA and test scores are well above the school’s averages and she felt that she would be at the upper end of the range and might not be challenged academically. While interested in HP, it will most likely remain as a back-up safety school for us.</p>

<p>Elon University, Elon, NC. We visited Elon last year and were impressed with the school and its programs. Since we were back in the North Carolina area, DD wanted to revisit. Elon is somewhat like High Point as to size and location. The schools are competitors. Our opinion is that Elon is years ahead of HP with its academic programs. The facilities may not be a modern and may have a blemish here and there, but it’s a college, and the students use the campus and facilities. We found the facilities to be in good order and the dining and special purpose spaces to be as modern and well equipped as any other school. The info session was moderated by two Adcons and we then went on the standard tour. The tour guides were matched up with families from their geographic area and we were fortunate to get a junior guy from the same suburb near us where our DD’s HS is located so we had a real one-on-one conversation about his time at Elon. The tour and conversation further solidified DD’s interest in Elon. She will definitely be applying.</p>

<p>Emory University, Atlanta, GA. We had heard pros and cons about Emory. The campus is large in acreage but the actual layout seemed tight, with little green space in many parts of the campus we toured. The buildings are all build in a similar style with the white and off-white Georgia marble and stone exteriors. The facilities are all well designed and current state of the art. The campus included the medical school and hospital so there was a real mix of people on that end of campus.</p>

<p>Emory actually has two campuses. Their Oxford campus is the original campus from the 1800’s that is now a two year campus and is located about 45 minutes away from the main campus. Students that go there automatically move to the main Atlanta campus for their junior and senior years. When you apply to Emory, you can choose one of the two campuses or both, as they have separate admissions for each but only require one application and app fee. It’s a bit different but goes back to the history of the university and the Chandler brothers who founded the Coca Cola company. When the info session was over, we were all offered our choice of Coke products from their cooler before we ventured outside for the tour. By the way, there are NO Pepsi products on the campus. :eek:</p>

<p>The student center, dining halls and dorms are all standard college issue with nothing overly unique at this campus. The initial video info session was good and the tour guides were good although there were about 10 to 12 families with each guide and the groups kept running into each other which became a nuisance after a while. The surrounding area was residential and appeared to be clean and safe.</p>

<p>While impressive, the campus had a different feel about it and DD just didn’t feel a fit. I believe that Emory will not be on her application list.</p>

<p>Feel free to post any questions and I will do my best to answer based on what I remember from each school. At this point, they are beginning to blur together a bit (except for High Point).</p>

<p>Thanks for your visit reports AvonHSDad! I enjoy hearing what people think about various schools - I keep the info in mind for when students are looking for suggestions or asking about a place.</p>

<p>Incidentally, your report about High Point matches what I’ve heard from everyone - lots of impressive “show” and perks, but extremely light on the academics. However, some kids like that… they mainly want a degree - without deep academics. There’s a fit for everyone.</p>

<p>I’m a little surprised you didn’t check out Furman…(it sounds like one you’d love) but I fully understand that there are only so many places one can visit on a trip!</p>

<p>Barnardmom - It will be an empty nest for us next year too! So many conflicting emotions. I’m exhausted thinking about all the crying I’ll be doing. I’m used to a busy house with kids over all the time and busyness around the schedules, etc. It’s going to be so quiet here.</p>

<p>Beady - so excited for you all! One in the bag plus scholarship is an awesome start! oh, and a teensy bit jealous as well</p>

<p>Avon - thanks for the trip report. I’ll say it here - high point freaks me out. Something really freaky about that place. It’s like Disney World there with the piped in music, perfect landscaping, ice cream trucks, volleyball, etc And I have relatives who have gone there, none made it through -they all transferred after a year. One enjoyed the party lifestyle too much, the other was unchallenged and transferred to Elon. Do kids really need to learn how to eat in a steak restaurant?! I know people love it, it just doesn’t sit well with me. </p>

<p>I’m now in a new phase of anxiety - my d just admitted her top choice. The application is in, and now it’s just waiting and fretting. I’ll be heartbroken for her if she doesn’t get in and it’s a school where she could or could not get in. At least before your app is in you feel like you still have control, now it’s in all we can do is wait until December.</p>

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<p>Really, AvonHSDad, do you honestly believe she didn’t understand the questions? I suspect she was very carefully trained to avoid them.</p>

<p>As for the poor grammar . … what else would you expect from a school that invests more in its facilities than its teaching staff? And as for the shopping center being purchased by the school, that sounds about right. My understanding from articles I’ve read is that High Point is trying to clear out the entire neighborhood around the school . . . which hasn’t, to say the least, been well received by the local residents.</p>

<p>But High Point’s strategy is working - you devoted more space to High Point (aka: College Club Med) than to any of the other schools you visited. And they LOVE the free PR!!!</p>

<p>Checking in to say hello. I feel like I’ve been gone forever and can’t even begin to judge how far back I’d have to go to read what I’ve missed!! I may just jump in and move forward as reading back a few weeks seems daunting at this point.</p>

<p>I’ve been keeping everyone in mind during the last few weeks as I know most are going though the same craziness as we have been here. There are times I want it all over, and times I know once it is, he’s quickly gone so I don’t want to rush it. My goal (although failing at times) is simply not to allow the admissions process to overwhelm our lives.</p>

<p>Bluedad had minor surgery but was home a week…not a great patient…and is back where he belongs, happily at work!! :slight_smile: We all knew I’d have a 36hr window of sympathy however everything went quite well.</p>

<p>Thursday I took S2 back to school for his third year. His furniture had been moved down previously so it was just clothes, books, personal belongings. Even so he had the SUV packed. This is the first move in that there wasn’t a hall full of rm’s and parents, or last year 3rm’s and gf’s (yea, we quickly got out of the way!). He has an apt with one rm and his own rm so he’s in ‘luxury digs’, lol! It was far more relaxed and quiet with just the two of us. He’s been somewhat radio silent, however I’ve heard from a few of his friends (girls). Funny when they start fb friending you and txting because they want to not because they have to. It makes me feel old! We usually skype on Sunday’s but since he just got there he may skip it. I’ll be there next weekend anyway for the first home game. I have a friend waayyy OOS who has a student at the same school. Whenever she’s in town I go down to see her.</p>

<p>I ended up home sometime about 3am to find S3 working on an essay… S3 is done with the CA and main essay, two school apps that don’t use CA and 2-3 other essays (lost count). I haven’t read any. The list of schools is still too high but I think will drop 2-3. He’s working on morphing essays to use for other schools supplements or honors apps. The goal is to be done by the end of Sept. He still has a bit of AP work. We go back to school Tues after Labor Day. I am anxiously waiting, hoping not to get ‘that’ call saying there’s a scheduling conflict and he has to choose another class/drop something. We went through quite a bit just to settle on these courses with him and I really don’t want to have to go through the emotional crud of reworking it again. He’s at peace with this schedule which took both parents and GC (he wanted more APs…he has 5…THAT was the compromise). He’ll continue his pt job. Hours are flexible so if he finds it’s too much he can ask to be scheduled less.</p>

<p>The 64K question is if he decides to go ED on his consistent #1 school. There’s another school he’s going to go do an overnight, retour, and sit in on a class before he makes the decision. If he comes home and tells us that he’d pick the former 100% of the time, no question, our advise is ED (as is his GC). All other schools high on his list are competitive admits but the merit could easily make any one of them an admit/deny. He has safety’s with guaranteed merit so that’s covered. S2’s top choice didn’t offer EA/ED so this wasn’t a factor, we’ve never looked at this route. FWIW, the ED option is financially doable so there’s no need to see a FA package, which I know is always a consideration.</p>

<p>Hopefully with routine setting in I’ll do better at keeping up. Hope all is well with all!!</p>

<p>barnardmom – we’ll be crying together. You’re right – I wouldn’t want him not to launch. Lots of other stuff coinciding with his going off to college (selling our house, moving, business may be relocating) so it will be a year of change.</p>

<p>avonHSdad – our GC said the same thing – “you should look at High Point”. The businesswoman/cynic in me wonders if they’re somehow motivating GCs to promote the school. I don’t mean monetarily, but I could see HP offering tours to impress GCs. I can’t take it seriously. S is not applying.</p>

<p>Creekland – tonight is Furman eve (we tour tomorrow). I have to say it’s beautiful in Greenville – lots of trees – so far so good. I’ll post his impressions.</p>

<p>blueiguana – good to hear from you! Way to go for your S making progress on the apps. End of September is a laudable goal.</p>

<p>Glad to hear Bluedad is going well. Very impressed with the progress of BlueS3 - Wow! That goal of end of Sept. sounds pretty good - though I don’t think our DA will hit that. I feel great that he has anything done at all and it is still August - not for long, though.</p>

<p>classof2015 - not sure where you live, but our gc’s give huge thumbs down to hpu. </p>

<p>We also toured Furman and so you know, Clemson is about 30 minutes away. I really liked Greenville - apparently ranked high in the best retirement areas. It wasn’t a fit for my d, she really wants a thriving, happening big U. She’s more Clemson than Furman. However, I was impressed with the admissions talk and I know a few kids who go there and love it. One is quite off the beaten path, musician type, the other the classic boarding school/country club kid. Apparently it is way more rigorous once you are there than the application process lets on. It holds my award for the dumpiest freshmen/sophomore dorms, but the nicest jr/sr apartments. Plus what’s not to love about being driven around for part of it in a golf cart. We went when the rose garden was in bloom and it was breathtaking.</p>

<p>I really should get to go to college now too after all of this research and tours. Plus, I’d appreciate all the touches my kids wouldn’t care about.</p>

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<p>We had Furman and Clemson on the initial possible list. Turns out Furman is smaller than what DD wants and Clemson is larger, therefore they were not on the visit list. Regarding High Point - I agree that there is a fit for everyone out there, it just won’t be our D.</p>

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There is something there that is just not “normal” but I haven’t been able to put my finger on it. You drive in and its kind of surreal. :eek: If memory serves me correctly, there was an article or post last spring from NACAC that included a list of schools that still had openings for the new class just starting this month and High Point was one of those schools on the list with some space still available. The marketing hype may be in support of filling the new entering class which may be more difficult for them than they are admitting.</p>

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If she was she wasn’t doing a good job as she stumbled and fumbled for words a couple of times. The student tour guides at all of the schools we visited were more articulate than this particular Adcon. At this point I really don’t care but it was a bucket list type of experience. :D</p>

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<p>That’s an interesting point as we had no knowledge of the school and DD’s GPA and test scores are well above their 75% marks. I am sure some schools do heavily market to GC’s. I hope it only goes that far and there is nothing beyond just the marketing hype. The only thing related to that school is that DD has two other schools in the immediate area on her primary list.</p>