Parents of the HS Class of 2016 (Part 1)

so on a lighter note, my DS has only called once, but texts often and tonight just texted frantically asking me to send him toothbrush and toothpaste because he couldn’t open the thick plastic travel bag he uses to carry them around :)…so I guess Mom is still needed for some emergencies :). Fortunately I’d already packed a second set for him to use - he just hadn’t found them in the zipper pouch of his bathroom tote. So crisis averted at midnight :).

And, he has been responding to videos and pix of DD18 learning to drive…he sent her a text that the video made him smile and that he loves her. So sweet. Eventually he’ll call again, right???

Re. safety

As per my prior post, d has not taken safety and any advice her dad and I have given her very seriously. This changed abruptly in a rather disconcerting way this summer. She participated in an early Freshman study abroad in Italy. They had classes on campus for a few days and then spent 3 weeks in Italy. Parents had a separate orientation session before they left. Less than two weeks prior to them leaving, a US study abroad student was found dead in Italy. I believe the company that organizes study abroad for our university does so for many other universities across the country and likely for the one involving the student who was found dead. They seemed to have intimate details of what occurred. Parents were told that the student in question had gone off on his own and was found dead “in the wrong side of town”; he had not followed their safety rules of going places with a buddy. University staff explained that their main rule was that no one was to ever go anywhere by themselves. There was no give and take in their statement. They stressed even if someone was not feeling well and wanted to be excused from dinner early, they would have to wait until someone else would go with them back to the hotel.

The benefit of the trip is that she listened to all the safety advice university staff gave. Even though it was pretty much the same thing we have been telling her, she took it seriously and I think it will have long term impact on choices she makes to keep herself safe. The downside to the trip was that that was pretty much their main rule; we were told that in Italy they are old enough to drink and they would not be chaperoned in the evening and they were free to go out after dinner. What a big surprise for me given how much control the high school has over students! I really was surprised by this one… They also had two free days where they could plan whatever activities they liked. At each city they went to the travel agent also gave them advice on what area of town to not go to and what nightclubs not to go to because they had a reputation for roofies or perhaps theft of unsuspecting tourists.

It was an interesting experience for d, and her dad and I. In spite of my advice about pick-pocketing, she was not as careful as she could have been and had her phone stolen in Rome. Two other students also had their phones stolen. She called me on someone else’s phone and was crying (balling her eyes out and hiccup-crying) because she had all of her high school grad pics on the phone. She tried to go to the police but felt threatened by them instead of feeling they were helpful due to language barriers, perhaps their mistrust of foreigners, and they were carrying machine guns. After she lost her phone, I worried a lot because I was not able to keep in contact with her. They had a great free day in Florence, but they got lost in Rome. Talked to her again and she was upset because the students who had phones did not charge them all the way and they had no GPS while they were lost… Pretty soon she texted me to let me know that everyone was getting the flu and also had pink eye.

The second to last day they were there she called me again, practically crying due to tiredness and stated that now she was sick and had pink eye. Because of the buddy rule, she was not excused from activities, including the traditionally late Italian dinner that lasts a couple of hours. The night before boarding the plane to come home we texted each other and she said she still had pink eye. I googled reasons people are not allowed to travel and found that pink eye can sometimes prevent someone from boarding. I then did not get any sleep because I was worried about her being left behind in a foreign country with no phone to contact me.

It seems that her pink eye was somewhat better the next morning, so she did not have problems boarding. They had direct flight back and she said she slept the whole time. When she got home, I think she slept for about 48 hours straight, only getting up for light meals and juice.

Once she was feeling better she said she had a fantastic time. I questioned her because she only called or texted me when there were problems. I then told her that she needed to share the good things with me too. She said that her group really looked after each other- especially when they were sick and lost in Rome. It was truly a bonding experience. Now that they are at the university, they have continued their friendship and have meals and get together during the weekend. We decided to get insurance on only her iphone; good choice as it only cost us $99 to replace her phone. Luckily, almost all her photos were uploaded automatically to icloud storage, so her graduation photos are intact.

So- now we have a safety conscious daughter, but I feel like it came at a cost of many near-sleepless nights for me. Also of note is that prior to losing her phone, I was listening to multiple reports of possible terrorism in Italy. The attack in France by the guy driving the truck happened a couple of hours before the parent orientation session. Their connecting flight to Italy had a 10 hour layover in Paris in the aftermath of that attack. Next there was the attack in Germany and then the another one in France of a mother/ tourist and her daughters. All this happened while she was in Italy… It definitely was a test of my worrying/ coping skills. So, I would have to say it was an experience for all of us.

She is already investigating additional study abroad trips that would provide coursework in her major. :-S

Wow @momofsmartdancer that was a lot of adulting lessons for one trip! Funny your D’s trip sounds very similar to a trip of my D16’s best friend’s trip this summer with her college for a pre college English class right down to the pink eye issues.

@HappyFace2018 apology accepted:)

@dyiu13 I’ve just seen your post about your call to your D and I have had exactly the same response from my S soon after he left. I left it for almost a week, I didn’t text or call or message and eventually I got a message saying “sorry I’ve been MIA for a while, been working undercover for MI6!” and then he sent a bit of news and asked how we were. I still didn’t respond until the next day when my husband and I called on the Sunday and put him on speaker phone. He sounded really pleased to hear us. It was so good to hear his voice but I think the break did us both the world of good and helped the separation ease a little. I think some of our children associate us with nagging and unwanted suggestions and feel they can handle everything on their own without our help, independence as a lot of these lovely people on CC have advised and I know now that this is what my S is proving to himself and I guess loving.

@momofsmartdancer So sorry that happened to your daughter! I would have been a wreck! It must have been an eye opener for your D and her friends. My D will often walk around with her purse open at the mall and every time I tell her to close it she insists that she’d know if someone was trying to take something. She usually prefaces this with “I’m not stupid!”

I love texting too…it would be even better if S16 texted me back once in awhile! :expressionless:

@momofsmartdancer Sorry to hear these lessons came at such cost. My S did a summer trip to Israel two summers ago - the war that summer started right after he got there. I was not ever worried about his safety. I have been to to Israel and my D had done this same trip 6 years earlier so I knew how reliable the group was (they’ve been doing youth trips to Israel for over 50 years). But the itinerary ended up changing each day and there were many parents who were freaked out and emailing and posting all the time. Lots of people here would make comments - assuming I was crazy to let my S stay there. But I still don’t think my kids get the safety issue. I worry about my S running at night. I’ve told him not to and right now he does not seem to be running at all. I grew up in New York where safety was instilled in my at an early age even though I lived in a safe suburb.

Still missing my S a lot. Neither kid is staying in touch and it makes me sad to think that they don’t care about keeping in touch. My friends’ kids all text and/or call on a regular basis - no strategy required. In fact, sometimes I’m in touch more with my friends’ kids than my own (they are like additional daughters to me but still . . .). I’m starting to resent having to request they call once a week. Maybe I’ll adjust over time.

My D sent me a video of puppies yesterday because apparently they have puppies there every Tuesday. I haven’t actually talked to her since last week when she was having her Chinese book crisis (which is completely resolved thanks to Amazon), though we have had a few misc texts back and forth. I would like to just chat with her but am afraid to bother her and don’t want to be annoying. I’ll let it go a few more days and then try a call.

@PAO2008 I know what you mean! I texted my BFF’s S16 yesterday to wish him good luck on the 1st day of classes and he responded right away!

@RyanG1207 So true. A friend’s son was stationed for a few months in Bahrain, in a really remote location and she said he would love to get email. So I emailed with him back and forth for awhile. He always wrote back right away and I know he appreciated hearing from some people back home. Email and texting making keeping in touch so easy so it is hard to understand about the kids. I do get that the new college kids are trying out their new freedom to make decisions without parents there but a little contact goes a long way.

DD called me this morning so I could wish her happy first day of college! It seems that I only took her to the first day of kindergarten recently.

My D16 is texting plenty but my D15 was one of those low/no contact for the first 2 months of college kids. Here were my strategies to cope while allowing her the space she needed.

Social Media: Thankfully I was already friends with her on facebook. She rarely posts anything but her friends did. Every day I would check the her friends list and since I could see she was adding new friends regularly I knew she was meeting people and making connections. Plus I could see whatever those people posted publicly and even occasionally catch a picture of her. I also liked every university page I could find. It made me fell connected to her school and what was going on even if she wasn’t telling me about it.

I also spent a lot of time researching college details like classes required for her majors, different professors, study abroad, and clubs I thought she might like. I did not (and have not) told her that I did this. The goal was not to help her but to help me. Now in year 2 with good communication lines this background info makes it easier for me to follow the snippets she lets fall but I never let on that I know some of this stuff.

She didn’t call home at all for 3 weeks and while she responded to texts it was all responses like k, fine, lol, or thnx. Since before she left we usually spent at least an hour a day walking the dog and talking about everything this was a very, very, hard adjustment for me. My friends all told me this was unacceptable and I needed to call her and force the issue. I decided to trust her and wait it out. Now I’m so, so glad I did. She needed that space to settle in to college and by allowing it to her, I set us up for a new adult relationship based on trust and mutual respect. Now she calls at least weekly and we usually talk for at least an hour at a time. And most importantly they are real, deep conversations about things that matter. She asks for advice regularly but it is about the important things like how do you stay good friends with a guy who is interested in a romantic relationship when you aren’t but you really value the friendship.

Everyone is different and in my case I knew that my kid was extremely responsible so YMMV but I wanted to share my experience of living through the pain of low contact and coming out the other side so much stronger as a result of not forcing the issue.

We had convocation today. Very, very special event to be at especially since it is the centennial

@labegg

Yes, I think the flu was going around Europe this summer… I think it odd that the flu was an issue in the summer time. I also noticed that they mentioned a number of Olympic athletes had the flu at the summer games.

This year is the first time I’ve gotten the flu shot (last Friday) and gotten sick (last night) :((

Today was interesting…at 3:45pm I nervously snatched up the phone wondering why my sweet girl hadn’t called me. I called my hubby to ask if he’d picked her up from school yet. He said “babe, she’s in college now.” The combination of not feeling well and that moment just did me in :((

@HappyFace2018 - oh no! That had to be upsetting! H and I have had a few moments where we “forgot” S wasn’t here - and then remembered. The adjustment period is ongoing.

I hope you feel better soon!

@happyface2018 - FWIW, my wife keeps going into D’s room to check on her whenever we go somewhere and come back (3 times this weekend). This was our normal routine to check whether she has eaten dinner, needed anything etc after we returned from anywhere.

Every day at 2:30 I have this fleeting moment of thinking I should be on the road to pick D up from school. I haven’t actually gotten on the road to do it, but I’ve come close. I think it’s going to take awhile before it sinks in.

Sorry you’re sick @HappyFace2018 . My H got a flu shot several years ago and got very ill, and it took the entire winter for him to truly recover. His doc has given him permission to skip it since then. Hope you feel better soon.

@HappyFace2018 Hope you feel better soon.