Parents of the HS Class of 2017 (Part 1)

@eandesmom At the very end of common data set section C9 show scores in each range in ACT English and ACT Math.

For my D’s first choice school, 6.04% of entering freshman scored 18-23 and 56.71% scored 24-29 in Math.

Speaking of ED…DS14 stumbled upon something we were completely unaware of today. He was opening up the application portal for University of Chicago and discovered that he was being asked to declare whether he was interested in applying EA, ED1, ED2, or RD. What the heck! This is a change, right???

@HiToWaMom admissions officers don’t cross reference last year’s ACT section cut offs to this year’s applicants. They probably are comparing within the applicant pool itself. The CDS has an arbitrary cutoff. I would send the 32 in a heartbeat. 1 point on Math is nothing to worry about, unless this year’s kids crushed it.

@HiToWaMom - I would agree with @2muchquan And 32C is a great score!

Also to @2muchquan - I checked again on Swarthmore’s page and there may be a merit scholarship available beyond the region but I found the wording confusing. Worth an inquiry to them perhaps?

http://www.swarthmore.edu/mccabe-scholars

@vandyeyes - Yes, this is new. There are a couple of threads active on CC that discuss it and its potential implications.

Hmmm. Forgive me @vandyeyes if I posted this twice: http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-chicago/1901459-in-16-17-uchicago-will-have-ea-ed-edii-and-rd.html

@HiToWaMom yes. However based on the strength of her other numbers and the fact she’s not going for a stem major, the one point increase in math definitely doesn’t offset the overall decrease elsewhere I can’t imagine. It’s a great score.

Thanks @2muchquan…fascinating…

QOTD: D has always been a rabid reader ever since she first learned to read. When we moved to America, my husband and I weren’t very good at speaking English. We had learned it in school but were still far from fluent, so we spoke Urdu at home the majority of the time. D was eager to learn English because she thought the letters were much prettier than the Urdu alphabet (which is the Arabic alphabet with a few additions) and wanted to play with the neighbor’s kids. We enrolled her in pre-school early partly to get her out of the house and learning English, and as soon as she could, she started taking books from the school library home. She checked out at least two books a day usually. From second grade on, she was best friends with the school librarians. I never read the books to her, but she had a lot of fun reading them to me!

Many years later, I am finally fluent in English, thanks in large part to D. She continues to read for pleasure quite often, especially in the summer. S20, on the other hand, prefers video games and the internet to books. D and I are both big fantasy fans, so that is what we have been reading a lot of recently. Her friends are very into historical fiction, so she has been reading some of their suggested books. I think she just finished up Code Name Verity which someone mentioned on this thread many pages ago. S20 has to read The Boys on the Boat for his summer reading, and D ordered it for him so that she could take a crack at it first. She is the one who reads what every other person in the house is reading.

@eandesmom , @2muchquan , @mamaedefamilia

Thank you so much for your input. I was wondering how much of a difference that one point in math would matter.
Greatly appreciate your opinions!

Surprised so many of you hate ED.

I like it. My son only wants to apply to a few schools. I have looked at the cost for all of them. I can afford them. I am fine with the price I will be paying. I don’t qualify for financial aid at any of the schools. He may get some small merit thrown his way, but maybe not, so total non factor.
So, if my son has his heart set on 1 school, and I’m fine paying for it, why can’t he let the school know it’s his top choice by EDIng? I’m supposed to feel guilty about that? Why? I’ve worked hard, lived a modest lifestyle and saved all of the costs for attendance.

I think a more disturbing trend is applying to more than 12 schools.

@QOTD My son is a reader. Always reading. Loves to read. He’s the old fashioned type of reader that wants to hold a book in his hand. News articles he reads on his phone.

@2muchquan Interestingly, Swarthmore keeps coming up on my radar as a school we need to visit but my son is not feeling up to any more visits right now. Please post your and your daughter’s thoughts if she does do the fly-in. Swarthmore, UPenn and Haverford were to be our tours before submitting apps in the fall but he was back to telling me yesterday he’s just applying to 8 schools.

APs: My son and his friends decided there is no reason to wait for Friday and wanted to see their scores. 5s in AP Eng Language and Comp, APUSH and Psychology. I’m glad he satisfied his curiousity. Now he can get back to getting ready for his AP Calc mid-term.

S17 is my only child. This whole college app process is starting to stress me out. I am so glad I am only going to have to go through this once.

I’m not sure what to think about the sudden rush of mailings offering S17 tshirts and stickers and things if he applies nownownow.

Go for the free t-shirts. My daughter is getting all the free t-shirts she can. For me. I am all about free t-shirts. Have a lot of them from charity events/walks/runs. :slight_smile:

How come we never received any free stuff offers? :(( Feeling no love now :((
:))

ED should only be binding if it is coupled with 100% of need met. Otherwise, I agree, it is unethical.

So hard being on vacation and trying to keep up…

@snoozn thanks for sharing. Your D sounds amazing and she is lucky to have such a supportive parent

AP scores D came running into my room at 6 am nudging me awake that she got a 3 in AP chem. She thought she flunked since her teacher checked out mentally the 2nd semester and quit before the exam so she was stuck with a sub who did nothing,

The rest of her scores were fantastic
Lang 4, USH 5, Calc bc 5 and psych 5. She was so happy she couldn’t contain herself. Proud mommy here.

QOTD. Our whole family loves to read. I wish I read more books but CC takes up so much time! When D was 1 she would make me read to her ALL THE TIME. Or she would just chew on the binder of the books (osmosis right?). D17 loves historical fiction like me. D16 is fantasy, dystopian, etc.

Ok, back to my vacay and maybe I can actually finish a book this week!

I am with you @whataboutcollege :))

@rightcoaster I am against ED. I told my son and his college counselor he will not be applying ED to any school. For me, it comes down to my 17 year old is not of legal age to enter into a binding contract until he is 18 but we are letting many high school seniors who are under age 18 enter into binding contracts?!? Not happening here. A close friend’s son applied to his dream school ED. It was a reach for him and they were thrilled when he was accepted because he loved the school. They made no less than 5 visits to the school. By Spring, he was having doubts. He complained to his parents that he would never let his kid have applied ED because now he was changing his mind. They thought once he was there, he would remember the love he had for the school. He worked hard and got straight As, he pledged a fraternity and was accepted. He has a close relationship with his room mate. He was elected floor president at his dorm. Something is missing and he is transferring in the fall. HS seniors are still kids. I have no objection to my son applying EA (he plans to apply EA to 3 schools) but I will not let him bind himself to anything. If they want him, they can show their love for him by giving him until May to decide among his choices.

If it works for your son and your family that’s great and it will take a tremendous amount of stress off of all of you and allow him to enjoy his senior year. Merit aid or no merit aid, doesn’t change the fact that kids sometimes change their minds and it’s for that reason I am against it.

I love to read but don’t have time for fiction except on vacation. So, last week I read The Book Thief, All the Light We Cannot See (HIGHLY recommend that one) and two Terry Pratchett novels. Now it’s back to textbooks :stuck_out_tongue: .

DD’14 reads voraciously, and it may be too much escapism for her. I do think that escapist reading can get damaging in some cases so I worry. DD’15 reads a lot as well, but DD’17 sticks to news and information (mostly online). I’m secretly watching him debate some people online about free speech and flag burning, and am impressed by his clear and logical writing. Since he hasn’t let me see his papers since about 6th grade, I had no idea he had become such a good writer!

I don’t have any problem with ED unless the school does not also offer EA. :smiley:

I agree @paveyourpath that is a great reason to dislike ED. I never really thought of that angle.