Parents of the HS Class of 2023 (Part 2)

It’s been busy. We realized that because she didn’t finish the year she won’t have enough credit to apply to a couple of schools on her list. We are researching other schools she hadn’t considered before. She got a job, her drivers permit and registered for a community college class and she’s good. Thanks for checking!

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This made me laugh a little because you are such a great parent- and I imagined MY mother who would constantly be telling people- well she goes to XYZ BUT she GOT INTO BERKLEY. She would be still be telling people that I am sure. Our kids are lucky we see the value in the actual education and personal development/growth part of the equation!

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I would personally exclude colleges that do not have a law school. I may be a bit biased that way because if graduate school is on the table, go somewhere where you can mingle and figure things out before making the decision.

Lots of other good points made here.

Though if you’re using that as a filter, make sure you know the physical location of the law school—a lot of places, the law school is a completely different campus some distance away.

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Yes ASU is a prime example. Undergraduate in Tempe, Law school in downtown Phoenix. Nice relatively new building by the way. Close to the courts and law firms.

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But this would exclude most colleges in America…

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Yep. And there’s a fair number of students who get accepted to top law schools where they went to a college for undergrad that does NOT have a law school.

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I know that for a lot of (and I suspect, at least informally, maybe most?) PhD programs there’s a strong tendency to not admit students who went to the same college for undergrad (unless they got a master’s somewhere else in between, and even then maybe not)—the idea being that if you’re going to be successful as a researcher, you have to have been exposed to multiple perspectives.

Is there a similar phenomenon with law school admissions? I honestly don’t know.

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Yeah, I’m sure all those pre-law kids at Princeton are totally regretting it. :roll_eyes:

OP has 4 choices. Princeton is not one of them.

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I thought she was trying to whittle down a short list. Anyway, that was my suggestion. She can do what she pleases.
Good point made by @dfbdfb, some schools are separated.

Gotcha - you were noting for those four schools!!

Anything to get the # of schools down.

So:

UMD - yes, #51 US News

No - I don’t believe

Alabama - yea, #35 US News

Auburn - no I don’t believe - which makes that pre-law major they offer even more odd.

If you took this logic, now it’s down to two :slight_smile:

Anytime you can reduce choice - it’s a good thing!!!

My bad for misinterpreting.

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I mean, there’s plenty of 100% undergraduate LACs that offer pre-law. Doesn’t seem all that weird to me.

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This is 100% true in many many cases in law school admissions.

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Not pre-law - but an actual major that’s pre law vs. any major with pre-law advising.

Auburn University’s Bachelor of Arts in Law and Justice is the first degree of its kind in the state and one of only a handful in the country. Our curriculum is designed to better prepare you for law school by using an interdisciplinary approach. In our program, you’ll:

  • Learn from practitioners in the field
  • Gain knowledge about legal doctrines and concepts
  • Develop skills that will help you succeed in law school
  • Conduct extensive research using legal databases
  • Participate in a law-based internship

This is very similar to where I was a year ago. We visited 7 schools in the southeast. My son liked ole miss, Alabama and Auburn the best. He applied to those three early and got in all as we expected.

Got called into guidance office and they told me I was selling my son short. He should be applying to Cornell, BC, Villanova, etc.

I told them one he doesn’t want to go there. And two he got a scholarship offer from the three he was admitted two.

Ole miss wasn’t a great fit for his major so he narrowed it down to Alabama and Auburn. Alabama campus itself was stunning. The downtown not so much. He liked it a lot. The Auburn campus was pretty and downtown was very nice. Nice hotels. Nice restaurants. Safe feeling. I knew he liked it better but bama gives great merit so I think that is why he held off choosing for so long.

After three months I told him your will succeed where you feel most comfortable and will get more involved. Where do you see yourself fitting in, enjoying day to day life and learning and growing. Auburn was his answer so I said well that’s it really.

Every family and student have their own situations and circumstances. I am not trying to say pick Auburn over Alabama. But if you or your spouse are with your child touring and exploring you will be able to tell by the body language and demeanor.

My only advice is your child should go where they feel they will thrive.

My son loves Auburn and wants to stay down there through the summer. I think he would have really liked Alabama as well but for Auburn was the better fit. Good luck and try to enjoy the whole experience.

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Do you know if students who do get their PhD from the same university where they earned their undergrad degree (went from bachelor’s degree straight into the PhD program at the same school) have more difficulty landing a job?

I had multiple professors at MIT who had been there for their entire academic lives… undergraduate, grad, postdoc, professor. But maybe that’s an outlier. (And it’s possible it’s not like that any more… this was a while back.)

I did my undergrad and PhD at the same place (there wasn’t anywhere better to go), and had no difficulty getting a job (though I’d decided I didn’t want to be an academic by that point).

Thanks for your feedback!