Good chance of that being me or @NiceUnparticularMan who shared that list with you. He can always throw in a couple of extra apps if he wants choices in the event that he changed his mind, but Operation Catapult is a great way to get a good feel for Rose-Hulman, and it seems like he thinks the school will be a great fit.
I confess that I don’t know any of the schools on your list very well, although I’ve heard of Adelphi and Mercyhurst bc of their dance programs. So in that I can’t give educated opinions but not wanting to leave you hanging, I went back to the CDSs of the schools to see where your D25 might land. If you’ve already done this legwork, forgive the repetition! I also included % latino, not just non-white. I’ve learned from friends who are not white that it isn’t just about having non-white faces; it’s having faces that look similar to yours. If that doesn’t hold true for her, feel free to ignore. (And also forgive the formatting–it looks nice in the preview and then terrible once posted.)
school // avg gpa submitted // % b/t 3-3.24 // where on admitted scale?// %latino/a
Lindenwood. 3.35. // 17.1 // b/t 20.5-37.6 // 4.7
U LA-Laf 3.41 // 15. // b/t 18-33 // 5.4
Stockton 3.56 // 10.23 // b/t 19-29 // 18.7
U of So MI 3.43 // 13.26 // b/t 18.3-30 // 4.1
Maryville 3.64 // 9.2 // b/t 13-22. // 7.8
IA State 3.73 // 13.1 // b/t 7.9-21 // 7.2 (note: % latinos similar to other places, but the raw number is bigger)
Rider–couldn’t easily find CDS
Wayne State 3.4 // 18.4 // b/t 26-44 // 7.6 (same note as IA state)
Mercyhurst (shunted me to College data). 3.36 GPA, 5% latino
Central MI 3.5 // 20.1 // b/t 17.6-37.7 // 5.3
W Carolina 3.4 // 16.3 // 19-35 // 8.6
Adelphi–must log in(!?!)
Kansas State 3.79 // 7.9 // b/t 9.3-17.5 // 8.5
I didn’t look up the “do we keep these”. I think it depends on how comfortable you feel with her odds. Like, at Kansas State, only ~8% with her GPA are admitted, and her GPA is lower than 80% of admitted students, but at Wayne State nearly 20% of students with her GPA are admitted, and it falls within the 26-44th percentile of GPA at the school. I know that we are usually talking about 25-75% of SAT/ACT, but I figured a similar metric could be run for GPA. Maybe?
ETA: Note that on the CDS the GPA band changes at 3.25. If she’s a 3.20-3.24 she falls into this range, but if it’s a 3.25 it moves her into the next band.
ETA2 (sorry!): I just saw this about school finances and it specifically mentions Lindenwood. I’m not sure how much stock to put on it, but at least wanted to mention it here: FAFSA woes lead to budget cuts at small colleges
D25 is safely touring around a European country with about a dozen other students plus a couple teachers. Some hiccups with the flights since the airline is on strike but it all worked out. She’s sent me some cute selfies and seems to be enjoying herself. It helps her best friend is there too. I miss her bunches but am so happy she gets to have this experience. Eventually the group will move on from the city tours and go to the town where they will stay as exchange students. So many fun things planned for them. One local student owns a bakery and has invited them all to tour it and learn how to make a pastry. The school is having its prom and they were all invited. It was fun packing a dress and shoes in the already full suitcase! A Viking village is also on the agenda. I asked D if I could chaperone but she unequivocally said NO. Oh well I guess we’ll just get to tear apart her bathroom wall to find the leak while she’s gone. That’s almost as fun right?
I’m thrilled for you that you got photos! And a little envious … last year S25 went with a school group to several European countries and I think I only ever got a handful of pictures of his meals.
I bet she’ll have lots of stories to share when she gets back, and an amazing time traveling without family. Such a confidence boost for kids to do that!
I actually have seen a ton of pictures! The 2 teachers are taking them all over and posting them to the parents group. They aren’t very good though mostly kids mid motion or blurred. One had her buddy walking a dog with no explanation. I had to text her to find out doggy belongs to one of the teachers mom who lives there. I’m sure I’ll see much more out of context fun pictures.
D25 is off to a friend’s for vacation. It is a good break for her and us.
She said something funny a few days ago, though. She asked, “What do colleges do if none of them admit you? How do they decide who takes you?” My sweet summer child. It was a good reminder about how naive and inexperienced in life she still is when facing these big life milestones, you know? Still so young!
D25 got an email from College Board inviting her to apply for an SAT Boot Camp tutor through Schoolhouse. Did anyone else get this? It says “based on your child’s past test scores.” She didn’t score that high. I’m guessing this is some marketing ploy to help ingratiate College Board more or something.
My daughter received this bootcamp tutor “program” back in the winter (iirc around Christmas). She has only taken the psat through the college board (she focused on the ACT instead). She did well on the psat, but not exceptionally (210 index). She did not respond to the tutor program.
Just got back from Europe, where we visited family that lives over there and then C25 and I co-presented research (that was originally C25’s idea) at a linguistics conference. It went well, but I fear that both of us brought back a nasty virus from it all. (Not covid, though, we tested.)
How awesome is that (presenting with your child, not the virus)!
I got an email for the Khan Academy SAT bootcamp and my child did end up teaching two sessions - each session is 2x/week for four weeks. They need many tutors as the bootcamp classes have a max of 10 students.
I think they recruit students if they score more than 700 on a section. Also, if I remember correctly, I had to give permission before they could solicit my student.
It’s not IMO. This is a schoolhouse.world effort that allows anyone with internet access to receive free SAT and subject tutoring.
S24 did several sessions last year, and I was surprised at how well put together everything is. The groups are small (up to 10 be he often had fewer) and the same for the entire series (8 classes over 4 weeks) are grouped by score range. Peer tutors receive training and a curriculum. S24 was even sent a free Wacom tablet to help with his classes.
S24 didn’t have a lot of ECs due to high level athletics but was already involved in tutoring at his school and this was a great way to give a little extra depth to his activities. He set his own class schedule, so it was very doable.
Actual quote from my S25 after he got home yesterday from the camp where he’s a counselor - “little kids can be real sh**s”
Yes my child.
And so can big kids.
No seriously, so far so good with this summer. He’s working, finding out that work is hard, and doing most of what he’s supposed to do at home, making some forward momentum on getting application stuff together, and also getting in some decent time to just relax. I am hopeful that this summer is a good learning experience for him (the work part) and at least restorative enough that he can start next year well.
Last night once it got cool he and I went to the track - I do NOT run. I’m old, fat, and out of shape. But I can walk, and he’s trying to rehab his hamstring so he needs some time to sprint on a track. So even though it was after my bedtime by the time we finished, I went with him. I really enjoyed just talking with him as we drove over and back and as he walked his cool down periods with me. I really like this kid, and I am really going to miss him when he’s eventually at college.
“well, dear, if none of them admit you, there’s the nearby community college where you might take classes, or else you can get a job! Isn’t it great that there are options?”
I’m the “cold water in the face” kind of parent, though. So, neither of my kids have asked me this sort of question. (They may have asked their dad, who is gentler with the reality checks…)
D25 is teaching swim lessons and she’s made similar comments about little kids and their behavior. To offset it she did receive a cute hand drawn thank you note from a 5 year old.
He did get a very nice thank you note and drawing his first week. But I think that relatively sweet group of kids maybe spoiled him a bit for the less easy weeks. Nonetheless, good lessons for them from all of this.
Yesterday’s gem - “Anyone even considering having sex should have to work with three and four year olds for a week. They’d never not use protection.”
Any of your kids is selected for UCLA SCIP. I paid the nonrefunable deposit for my younger son, but the total expense came out over $6K for one course (transferable credit earned), not sure if it’s worth it.
VT is bigger than Clemson. VT UG close to 30,000 with over 5,000 Grad students. Clemson is more like 20,000 UG and about 5,000 grad students.
Oh and not to mention a much better football program ………lol…
But I get the instate versus out of state tuition difference.
I know this is not your first rodeo and you created a broad and very well rounded list. And not to add more names to the list but Coastal Carolina and East Carolina are also reasonably priced school that give decent OOS merit money.
Also Kent State gives good OOS money besides not being crazy expensive to begin with. Actually many of the Ohio state schools do. Bowling Green, Toledo, Ohio, Miami etc.
Good luck
Mercyhurst has good Criminal Justice. Have D21’s friends who go there for criminology/forensics and love it.
@2plustrio here are some other schools local for me here in Western PA that might fit the bill are Waynesburg University, Seton Hill University and IUP (Indiana University of Pennsylvania)