<p>In the last 24 hours, there has been such a huge let down for passionate supporters for a female President.</p>
<p>If you are an Obama supporter, please do not post on this thread.
Those of you who have been Clinton supporters, what do you folks plan to do with your vote? </p>
<p>If Obama doesn’t pick Hillary as VP, I for one plan to vote for McCain!</p>
<p>One should not vote based upon gender or race, and it sounds as if that is what you have done.</p>
<p>I honestly believed that Hillary would have been the better choice when I voted.</p>
<p>Just out of curiousity, I would like to know why you would vote for McCain over Obama. Not saying that I have not felt this way sometimes, but what are your reasons for this?</p>
<p>Tired of seeing young, cute men (irrespective of race) come by and take away all the hard work a woman has put in. </p>
<p>Have experienced the ‘glass ceiling effect’ myself in industry. So, I feel some of Hillary’s pain.</p>
<p>“If you are an Obama supporter, please do not post on this thread.”</p>
<p>But I am both an Obama supporter and a passionate supporter for a female president. You present the thread title as a synonym for “Hillary supporter,” and it is not.</p>
<p>Universal health care was a very importance issue for me, and since Obama and MacCain wont be providing it, I will be looking at other factors.</p>
<p>I like MacCain stance on Pork barrel, fiscal conservativeness, and his desire to cut down waste. I like that he voted against Dick cheney’s energy bill full of goodies for the oil industry (this bill was also bad for the environment), and Nancy Pelosi’s farm bill also full of goodies for rich farmers. </p>
<p>I also like the fact that he wont be bailing out speculators in the housing industry. Bailing out speculators will create a moral hazard problem, which will encourage more people to speculate knowing that the government will bail them out. Speculators should be allowed to face the consequences all by themselves.</p>
<p>MacCain’s slogan “Reforms we can believe in” </p>
<p>There are a lot of things I like about MacCain.</p>
<p>I don’t understand the mentality of HRC supporters saying if she is not VP they will vote for McCain. Makes no sense. Completely different stances on all issues from Hillary. </p>
<p>What that attitude says to me is that you are having a temper tantrum and want to take your ball and go home. </p>
<p>When push comes to shove the HRC supporters will vote Obama no matter what they are saying now. Obama will NOT take her as VP. His campaign is about changing Washington. Having Hillary as VP is 180 degrees from that. And having loose cannon Bill running around with his scandals again would clinch the election for McCain.</p>
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<p>What has he changed since he went to the senate?</p>
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<p>I guess we have to wait and see. As an independent, I have the luxury of choosing some issues that are important to me, and vote on it. I am not required to support any particular party.</p>
<p>I am neither a democrat nor a republican. If it comes down to selecting betweeen Obama and McCain, I guess more voters like me will swing in McCain’s direction.</p>
<p>I feel more or less the same as Pharmagal. Too many times I have also seen incompetent/inexperienced people with a silver tongue getting ahead of the competent, experienced colleagues in my life and then proceed to run things badly. </p>
<p>I always liked and respected McCain and I like experience, so probably and for the first time in my life, I may vote republican. The husband is a Hillary supporter, and he said he won’t vote.</p>
<p>Anyone who doesn’t want the war in Iraq to continue, and doesn’t want a majority appointed to the Supreme Court that might overturn Roe v. Wade and do God knows what other longterm damage, who “takes her ball and goes home” because her candidate didn’t get the nomination and someone whose positions on most issues are virtually identical got it instead, entirely deserves what she gets if McCain is elected, and will have no moral standing whatsoever to complain about anything that happens during his administration.</p>
<p>I high-five you Munchkin! There are a lot of galpals my age at work who feel the same way. So, the numbers will change on the general election pretty soon!</p>
<p>So you are voting totally based on gender, not issues? I don’t understand that at all.</p>
<p>Clinton brought both experience and gender. Obama brings neither.
McCain brings at least experience.</p>
<p>DonnaL said it all. I’m so sad about Hillary, but I’m not about to give up the supreme court to another republican. There was a great article in the New York a couple of weeks ago about McCains views on the court. He timed that speach to get lost in the Memorial Day news vaccum as well. Dems are crazy to give him a chance to name the next member of the court and doom our kids to their right to choose (and lots of other really important issues)</p>
<p>Experience in what? Carpetbagging? (look it up) Her record on legislation is as light as Obama’s. Experience in a totally failed healthcare initiative? Experience in scandals? Constant lying?</p>
<p>This is the same experience argument that was made about Kennedy. Nixon had more experience. That worked out well… If Hillary could not make decisions to win the nomination how do you expect her to make good decisions as a President? She had the nomination 12 mths ago. She made poor decision after poor decision in the campaign and lost to an unknown.</p>
<p>I just don’t understand the mentality of not voting issues. How is voting for gender - not issues any different than saying “I will only vote for a white person, if a black person is nominated I will either stay at home or vote for McCain”.</p>
<p>Or is that what they are really saying?</p>
<p>Full disclosure - I am a Republican</p>
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<p>I can only speak for myself. I am totally viewing this through the realm of my own experience. I imagine I can feel Hillary’s pain. Tough becomes shrill for her. Persistence becomes shameless and ruthless. Some friend back in Chicago, a thirty something woman of great accomplishment said something like she won’t vote for Hillary because she wears pantsuits and not skirts !</p>
<p>I would vote for Obama if he had more experience, for me, hope and charisma does not mean much. I remember the times I was disappointed with these larger than life figures, Camelot anyone ? JFK fooled around more than Clinton, and more brazen too. Carter, well, he didn’t govern too well, did he ? </p>
<p>Sure I disagree with McCain on a lot of issues but I have listened to him and watched him long enough to respect him and have confidence in him that he will lead us right should a crisis happen. I do not have that confidence in Obama.</p>
<p>Supreme Court appointees would have to be confirmed by the Senate. The Democratic Party will be in control for some time, so any right-winger appointee wont stand a chance of being confirmed. </p>
<p>John Paul Stevens,a republican appointee who turned out to be more liberal than any conservative would have thought of. Some of these Justices change their philosophies over time. </p>
<p>If he appoints Justices like Roberts and Alito we will all be fine.</p>
<p>I think the same way as tega. That’s why I have no trouble with McCain.</p>
<p>Ditto Munchkin! I couldn’t have said it better.</p>
<p>“I imagine I can feel Hillary’s pain.”</p>
<p>I guess I don’t understand what this has to do with your vote. Will it assuage her pain to put the other party in the White House and make it much harder to pass her own legislative agenda as a Senator?</p>