<p>Who else watched this? It’s interesting to hear the perspective of 9/11 from a Conservative perspective, rather than the liberal perspective seen on the news media, KWIM? I heard, however, that the beloved Clintons were not too happy about this, however. Any comments?</p>
<p>I didn’t think it was so horrible. Why did Clinton make such a big deal about it? It’s sad that so many people may take what has clearly been called “a combination of history and entertainment” (i.e. fantasy) as the truth. I think Bill has drawn more attention to it that it would have gotten had he just let it run.</p>
<p>I found it interesting that right after the “Path to 9/11” show, all of the news channels began saying,“WEYELL, actually, Clinton had several opportunities to take custody of Bin Ladin and bomb Al-Quaida terror camps, but, but it’s still Bush’s fault!”</p>
<pre><code> Don’t you just love the liberal news media?
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<p>I chose not to watch Path to 9/11 but to watch, for the second time, 9/11, a true documentary of that awful day, made by filmmakers Jules and Gedeon Naudet.</p>
<p>I watched the documentary by the Naudet brothers also for the second time. Remarkable film.</p>
<p>Anyone else watch this show?</p>
<p>I watched programs on the History, National Geographic, and the Discovery Channel…real history is what I watch when I want facts</p>
<p>and at least REL admits the show was biased…with its “convservative” slant</p>
<p>I watched a little of it. Was surprised how little of it was about 9/11, or the 9/11 report. Also surprised at how utterly competent government workers (CIA/DSS, etc.) were portrayed. It was like if only we had unleashed the low-level bureaucrats, everything would have been honkey-dorry. Interesting for a “conservative” perspective.</p>
<p>^^Said by the man who constantly pimps the “Fort Benning Torture School” myth.</p>
<p>just because they showed that the ground workers, the people that were in the trenches that they did a good job, doesn’t mean the show didnt have major problems with truthiness…did you think the show would slam the people that did the real work?</p>
<p>too bad Bush didn’t recognize that there are competent people, and that experience means something, instead of hiring Cronies, ala Brown…and putting others in jobs they just have no experience in…</p>
<p>and isn’t it interesting that Cheney and the Senate disagree. makes me kind of grin</p>
<p>It’s true - the low-level bureaucrats in charge of the Fort Benning Torture School were nothing if not competent.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.soaw.org/new/newswire_detail.php?id=975[/url]”>http://www.soaw.org/new/newswire_detail.php?id=975</a></p>
<p>my D is going to School of the America’s to protest it…I am proud of her…</p>
<p>There has never, ever, been a shred of a scintilla of a credible rumor that has connected our primary Airborne/Ranger training facility–Fort Benning-- with teaching third world people how to do something that they already have known how to do for generations–torture. It’s merely a convenient ploy used by people who seek excuses for bashing our military.</p>
<p>I believe the complaint that was lodged is that it was not FACT it was fictional account. ABC argued that people would be able to watch this movie without mistaking it for FACT. I guess they were wrong REL. It should have been pulled as the Reagan docudrama was. ABC has really blurred the line between news and entertainment. They will do so even more tonight by having the President speak of 9/11 and go directly into their fantasy movie about the events. ABC should be ashamed of themselves.</p>
<p>don’t tell that (the Fort Benning thing) to mini and cgm … they can’t possibly consider living in any world other than that of US conspiracy - whether to kill Iraqi children or to torture Irani citizens. If it paints the US as being bad, it must be true.</p>
<p>No conspiracy. Both policies (the torture school) and the killing of the children were open, public, and discussed. In the latter case, “oil for food” was started following European nations charging the Clinton regime with genocide (which it was.) In the torture case - well, I worked for the “non-conspiratorial” U.S. government in Iran, and there were no secrets. Everyone knew where the “Apollo” helmets and the “white” torture techniques came from, and it was made very public in order to terrorize the populace into submission (if it were secret, it wouldn’t have had such an impact.)</p>
<p>It may have been a “conspiracy” to you, but there’s no need for secrets when few protest in any case.</p>
<p>There was no “torture school” at Fort Benning. The very idea that anyone in the Middle East or South America–where people are still skinned alive, blinded, stoned, disemembered/disemboweled, beheaded, burned, in true medieval fashion–needs torture lessons from Americans–is ludicrous on its face. I have a lot of friends and relatives that went through Benning as part of their military “kindergarten” and you insult them by slinging this garbage. Stick that in your “apollo helmet.”</p>
<p>tis okay FF, that you believe everything your government tells, you…that is kind of sweet, that naivity…blind loyalty is always such a healthy way to be…I would rather by a cynic then a lemming</p>
<p>but if you can’t hande the truth about SOA…well…it is okay…others know the truth…FF and Driver are not necessary in the fight for human rights…</p>
<p><a href=“Backyard terrorism | George Monbiot | The Guardian”>Backyard terrorism | George Monbiot | The Guardian;
<p>n June this year, Colonel Byron Lima Estrada, once a student at the school, was convicted in Guatemala City of murdering Bishop Juan Gerardi in 1998. Gerardi was killed because he had helped to write a report on the atrocities committed by Guatemala’s D-2, the military intelligence agency run by Lima Estrada with the help of two other SOA graduates. D-2 coordinated the “anti-insurgency” campaign which obliterated 448 Mayan Indian villages, and murdered tens of thousands of their people. Forty per cent of the cabinet ministers who served the genocidal regimes of Lucas Garcia, Rios Montt and Mejia Victores studied at the School of the Americas.</p>
<p>rgentina’s dictators Roberto Viola and Leopoldo Galtieri, Panama’s Manuel Noriega and Omar Torrijos, Peru’s Juan Velasco Alvarado and Ecuador’s Guillermo Rodriguez all benefited from the school’s instruction. So did the leader of the Grupo Colina death squad in Fujimori’s Peru; four of the five officers who ran the infamous Battalion 3-16 in Honduras (which controlled the death squads there in the 1980s) and the commander responsible for the 1994 Ocosingo massacre in Mexico.</p>
<p>All this, the school’s defenders insist, is ancient history. But SOA graduates are also involved in the dirty war now being waged, with US support, in Colombia. In 1999 the US State Department’s report on human rights named two SOA graduates as the murderers of the peace commissioner, Alex Lopera. Last year, Human Rights Watch revealed that seven former pupils are running paramilitary groups there and have commissioned kidnappings, disappearances, murders and massacres. In February this year an SOA graduate in Colombia was convicted of complicity in the torture and killing of 30 peasants by paramilitaries. The school is now drawing more of its students from Colombia than from any other country."</p>
<p>nice student body, eh></p>
<p>The SOA controversy intensified when a 1992 report declassified by the Pentagon in 1996 revealed the details of a manual used at SOA in the 1980s that advocated tactics such as beatings, false imprisonment, execution and bounty payments for enemy dead.</p>
<p>and for those that really are interested:</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.derechos.org/soa/index.html[/url]”>http://www.derechos.org/soa/index.html</a>
’ this is a list of SOA,WHisc garduates…</p>
<p>ignroance is not bliss, its arrogant and dangerous</p>