<p>“Our nation is turning into something like soddom and ghmorra
thus, why should God not hate us?”</p>
<p>Because God is not about “hate” or “us”</p>
<p>According to this idiot, Coretta Scott King, Ronald Reagan, Reggie White, and the coal minors who recently lost their lives are all in hell. This “person” is about as far from “God” as one can get, in anyone’s religion.</p>
<p>Amen to that Shogun ;).</p>
<p>“I mean most people in this country claim to be christian, but change their faith to make it more comfortable”</p>
<p>No, we just have a myriad of christian denominations looking at the same book and traditions in a myriad of different ways—some of which are down-right destructive to people’s lives and well-being. Too many folks out there telling us what God says, wants, loves, hates, etc. </p>
<p>Frankly, when it comes to knowing what’s in God’s mind, we most likely don’t have a clue.</p>
<p>look i think phelps is nutz, but when you say</p>
<p>Because God is not about “hate” or “us”</p>
<p>you are forgetting romans 9</p>
<p>Not only that, but Rebekah’s children had one and the same father, our father Isaac. 11Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or badin order that God’s purpose in election might stand: 12not by works but by him who callsshe was told, “The older will serve the younger.”[d] 13Just as it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”[e]</p>
<p>14What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! 15For he says to Moses,
“I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”[f] 16It does not, therefore, depend on man’s desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. 17For the Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.”[g] 18Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.</p>
<p>19One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who resists his will?” 20But who are you, O man, to talk back to God?</p>
<p>romans 9:10-20 NIV</p>
<p>god obviously hates somepeople, and to think “God loves us because we are Americans” is stupid. Are we too pround to admit our sin? I mean, Phelps is crazy. But you cant throw the baby out with the bathwater. We may not have a clue of what is in God’s mind, but we can certainly study His word. I mean, most religions ban homosexuality</p>
<p>judiasm
christianity
islam
bhuddism</p>
<p>I was hoping this wouldn’t become a religious forum and I would prefer PM’s on this subject, but Phelp’s forgets the most basic of Christian concepts: that God love’s the sinner and hates the sin. Homosexuaity in a Christian worldview is no worse than lying or stealing – all condemn (any single sin condemns in fact) and only Christ provides salvation. Everyone, including you, is seen as unclean as a homosexual because none of us are perfect. Hence the need for a savior who died for us. Jesus spent 90% of his time with “sinners and tax collectors”. If you pull single scriptures out of context, you miss the whole point. Roman’s 9, as an example, was important in that it demonstrated to the Jews (I am one by the way) that it was not bloodline that saved you or put you in God’s favor (e.g. Esau) but what you believed that did so. Lest you turn-off an entire board of readers who are more interested in service academies than a bible study - how about you and I PM for awhile? Though I’m out of town until Friday.</p>
<p>Wait. Did someone say ‘puppies’? And nine of them? Ooooooo. Now thats heaven. Well, until they barf I guess…</p>
<p>Yes PUPPIES! 5 white/yellow and 4 black Lab puppies—things so cute they should be be illegal!</p>
<p>Oooooh, puppy breath! What a cure for whatever ails a person! Right up there with newborn baby scent, rich cabernet, warm chocolate fondue, and ginger bath salts as my personal high blood pressure tonic.</p>
<p>Yummy yummy yummy Shogun. And what a mix of colors. They must be just learning how their wheels turn at that age. Funny to watch them try to run. My older son has a black one. Wish I could have given him shrink drops to keep him a baby. Labs are especially cute as pups. Kinda big for me to handle but I do love them so. Are they all spoken for or might you consider one?</p>
<p>My sister will be selling most of them. She already has two full grown labs, 3 cats, and about 8 horses on her ranch----its like “Wild Kingdom” when we go down there. She offered to give us one (she’s selling for abt 700-800 bucks a pop), but we already have one big dog at home and he’s not the “sharing” type. Still, we are soooooo tempted…</p>