paying for school? it is possible...

<p>okay, this question may seem a little dumb or redundant but i wonder if any of you can help.</p>

<p>i’m a good student entering my senior year of a public high school.
i aspire to go to a good college in the boston area. i’m looking at :
Clark University
Northeastern University
UMass Boston
Boston College</p>

<p>and as a safety, Arcadia University in PA</p>

<p>My question, is how i’m going to pay for school. I don’t believe my family can afford for me to go to one of these schools. However, I am a good student who is determined to. Teachers have told me to get accepted where I want to go, and there are ways to fund it, such as student loans and gov’t money.
Is this realistic advice? I always followed that, and now I’m beginning to worry I will not be able to pay for it ‘myself’. Any help would be greatly appreciated.</p>

<p>It is extremely difficult for a student to fully pay for college these days, and it is not a good idea to take out large amounts of loans (I just looked at your chances thread and since you’re hoping to go to med school, excessive loans for your undergrad degree is even more of a concern). There are many threads on the topic of loans, use the Search function here on CC to find some. Teachers (and even GCs) can be out of touch with current FA and merit awards, AND they may make generalizations that may not hold up in your case. In my opinion, FA is at least as difficult to understand and predict as college admissions. And, it deserves (but most often doesn’t get) as much or more attention.</p>

<p>You need to sit down with your parents and run some FA calculators to determine if and how much need based aid you may qualify for. The College Board website has one where you can run both a Federal (FAFSA) and an Institutional (Profile) estimate. The private colleges you listed are likely to use the Profile while UMass will use FAFSA. </p>

<p>You also need to educate both yourself and your parents in how FA and merit aid works. A good website is: [FinAid</a>! Financial Aid, College Scholarships and Student Loans](<a href=“http://www.finaid.org%5DFinAid”>http://www.finaid.org). A good book is: Paying for college without going broke.</p>

<p>I know that NEU offers merit aid, but am not sure about the others. You need to go on their websites and see what kind of merit awards they offer. Also, you will likely need to be in the tip top of the applicant pool in order to be in the running for merit scholarships. Where do your SAT scores and GPA put you in the admissions stats for those schools?</p>

<p>You probably need to sit down with your parents and find out how much they are able or willing to help finance your college expenses. Also figure out what income bracket your parents are in terms of filling out the Financial Aid forms, because this is how colleges will figure out how much your Expected Family Contribution (EFC) will be - and regardless of what your parents <em>will</em> help you out with, this is a number you need to keep in mind because this money will have to be found one way or another. You should be able to figure out approximately how much different colleges give out in free aid/grants and then crunch all your numbers. You should also be applying for scholarships.</p>

<p>All this said, you may want to look at community college for 2 years followed by transfer. It is often a way to save a lot of money - and if you do well in community college, you should be able to transfer to a strong school. </p>

<p>Other options are to take a year off before or during college and set aside money during that time. It isn’t what most kids dream of doing - but I’ve read/seen stories of people doing this all of the time. I recall seeing a feature article about a family where all their children ended up going to school through this method of working a year between high school and college and/or taking another year in the middle of their studies. For one young woman, her year of working for a company before returning to school ended up having huge benefits for her - when she graduated from college, the company she worked for hired her back in a senior position (she had a huge leg up from other students who only had a degree but no significant work experience). All I am saying is that whatever path you take to get through school can be one where the detours can be turned around to your advantage.</p>

<p>Good luck,</p>

<p>Annika</p>

<p>Agree with the above posters. The first things you need to do are sit down with your parents and find out </p>

<p>**A. what they are willing and able to pay
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and very importantly</p>

<p>** B. What your EFC (Expected family Contribution) is likely to be.**</p>

<p>Financial aid is based on your need as calculated by the school rather than what you think your need is. In rough terms ‘need’ it is arrived at by taking your EFC away from the school’s COA (Cost Of Attendance).</p>

<p>You can get an estimate of what your EFC might be by using an EFC calculator such as the one here
[FinAid</a> | Calculators | Expected Family Contribution (EFC) and Financial Aid](<a href=“http://www.finaid.org/calculators/finaidestimate.phtml]FinAid”>http://www.finaid.org/calculators/finaidestimate.phtml)</p>

<p>Sit down with your parents and enter family income and assets (including your own) into the calculator and it will give you an estimate of your EFC. The federal methodology gives you an estimate of what your FAFSA EFC might be. I have found that calculator to be pretty accurate though it has not yet been updated with new rules for 2009-2010 school year. Institutional Methodology gives you an estimate of what your EFC might be at at schools that use profile. Profile schools use their own rules so EFCs can vary more. </p>

<p>Remember some schools promise to meet full need. Many do not. Again the ‘need’ is based on what the school calculates your need to be - not what you think it should be. For instance if a schools COA were $40,000 and your EFC was $15,000 then your ‘need’ on which aid would be based would be $25,000. That need may be met with a combination of grants, loans, work study. Sometimes full need is not met - that is called ‘gapping’. For instance in the previous example if your calculated need is $25,000 but you only get aid of $20,000 then you have a $5,000 gap.</p>

<p>For FAFSA only schools the EFC is based on FAFSA alone. For schools that use profile they usually use profile to calculate institutional aid (aid awarded by the school from their own money) and FAFSA to award federal (from the government) and sometimes State aid. </p>

<p>It is very important to have a serious discussion about what your parents will actually pay as well as figuring out your EFC. If your EFC comes out at 10,000 a year but they will only 3,000 a year then financial aid will not meet the difference of 7,000.</p>

<p>You need to make sure you have a financial safety included in your list of schools. That is a school you can afford to go to and are willing to attend if the financial aid is not high enough at the other schools. This would probably be an instate university. Several of the schools you have listed have very high tuition. I am not saying do not apply to them - but add some financial safeties into the mix.</p>

<p>You can greatly increase your chances of paying your way by applying to some schools where you are more likely to qualify for merit aid. This would mean looking at schools where you are statistically in the top few % points of the student body. For instance if the average ACT at the school is a 26 and the average GPA is a 3.5 you would probably not qualify for merit money with a 26 ACT and a 3.5 GPA - but are likely to with say a 30/3.75. We have a very low EFC but financial aid would not cover the full cost of my daughter’s school without a lot of loans. However her stats put her in the top 2-3% at her school so she has good merit aid in addition to the need based aid which basically means she is almost loan free. I don’t know your stats but it may be worth retaking the SATs or ACTs if you find a school where you are close to qualifying for merit aid. For instance my daughter retook the ACT to try and increase it from a 31 to a 32 or 33. By getting the 32 she increased her merit awards by several thousand a year. A 33 would have added a couple of thousand more.</p>

<p>Neu does offer merit aid, but generally speaking the top award has been around 16K per year. Many applicants receive that much in merit but still can’t afford the COA.<br>
OP: are you in MA or OOS for the schools in Boston?
Also, if you are looking for merit and not need based aid, you will want to apply to schools where you are at the top of their stats range, and may want to consider schools outside your geographic area.</p>

<p>Arcadia is an extremely, extremely generous school, so if you are at the top of their applicant pool and show them the love, you might be in good shape there.</p>

<p>BC is noted for avg. need of percent as 100%, while Clark shows 94%. Northeastern’s statistics with financial aid are not that spectacular. The public one will use the federal formula (FM) or FAFSA only, which may not result in a great package. I swear by “How to Pay For College Without Going Broke” the Princeton Review, as it has probably saved us $1,000’s during our college years for 4 children, 2003-2014. (no we are not done yet!) BC, Clark & Northeastern all have housing shortages as well, which means possibly living off campus, which can cost more.</p>