"And what about the extremist Christians who bomb abortion clinics and kill doctors? or kill people like Matthew Shepard? ’
So, what about them? A small number of individuals do not compare against a single minded, large army of fanatics. And generally, the abortion clinic bombers have been arrested and jailed. What’s your point?
What a surprise. Another mass murder by a peaceful religious fanatic today in Tunisia. 38 people executed. They can’t definitively declare it was an ISIS attack, though they are claiming responsibility. Hmm, just might be one of those extremist Christians, because that’s got to be far more likely, right?
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/27/africa/tunisia-terror-attack/index.html
"Sousse, Tunisia (CNN)—Tourists fled a Tunisian seaside resort on Saturday, a day after an attack killed at least 38 people and wounded at least 36 others.
A stream of buses quietly ferried out thousands of guests who abruptly ended their beach holidays in the coastal city of Sousse.
ISIS claimed responsibility for the attack that started on the beach outside the Hotel Riu Imperial Marhaba, but it wasn’t clear if the Islamist group had any direct role in it
ISIS posted a photo of the alleged attacker, Abu Yahya al-Qirawani, but people who were at the scene of the shooting told CNN they could not definitively say whether the gunman they saw is the same man "
@Niquii77, I’m sure it’s hard to digest for anyone who’s never been around the more traditional Middle Eastern people, not the Westernized ones.
There are plenty of Middle Easterns who act like cavemen and are stubborn about change, but they tend to be the older generation. The young Middle Eastern people who aren’t raised here in the US aren’t going to magically evolve their thinking and understanding of the world around them. I’ve had friends in my old high school who were very aggressive and extremely conservative in terms of religious beliefs. After a couple of years, they became very docile because the culture we have here is that of understanding and acceptance.
@stugace You speak of what you do not know – my experiences and beliefs. The situation at hand is a complex one and simply I do not wish to engage in a “The Middle East is this…” conversation. It’s futile and not something I wish to waste my energy on. Think what you want. I shall continue having my faith and supporting those who bring change in a just and honest way.
What?..
“These past few posts are every telling and I find it a bit hard to digest. Just…very interesting.” If you have a hard time digesting it, it would be fair on my end to assume you’re not around those type of people. Also, I didn’t contest your beliefs in any way. You lost me with your last sentence.
Yes, it is fair on your end to assume that; however, I found certain posters’ posts hard to digest. Your post was not one of them.
Did you know the percent of terrorist attacks in Europe done by Muslims is less than 2%.
Europol says that the vast majority of terror attacks in Europe were perpetrated by separatist groups. For example, in 2013, there were 152 terror attacks in Europe. Only two of them were “religiously motivated,” while 84 were predicated upon ethno-nationalist or separatist beliefs.
Have you heard of these incidents? Probably not. But if Muslims had committed them do you think you our media would’ve covered it?
Even after one of the worst terror attacks ever in Europe in 2011, when Anders Breivik slaughtered 77 people in Norway to further his anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant, and pro-Christian Europe agenda as he stated in his manifesto, how much press did we see in the United States? Yes, it was covered, but not the way we see when a Muslim terrorist is involved. Plus we didn’t see terrorism experts fill the cable news sphere asking how we can stop future Christian terrorists. In fact, even the suggestion that Breivik was a “Christian terrorist” was met with outrage by many.
Have you heard about the Buddhist terrorists? Well, extremist Buddhists have killed many Muslim civilians in Burma, and just a few months ago in Sri Lanka, some went on a violent rampage burning down Muslim homes and businesses and slaughtering four Muslims.
Or what about the Jewish terrorists? Per the 2013 State Department’s report on terrorism, there were 399 acts of terror committed by Israeli settlers in what are known as “price tag” attacks. These Jewish terrorists attacked Palestinian civilians causing physical injuries to 93 of them and also vandalized scores of mosques and Christian churches.
Back in the United States, the percentage of terror attacks committed by Muslims is almost as miniscule as in Europe. An FBI study looking at terrorism committed on U.S. soil between 1980 and 2005 found that 94% of the terror attacks were committed by non-Muslims. Actually, 42% of terror attacks were carried out by Latino-related groups, followed by 24% perpetrated by extreme left-wing actors.
"Did you know the percent of terrorist attacks in Europe done by Muslims is less than 2%.
Europol says that the vast majority of terror attacks in Europe were perpetrated by separatist groups. For example, in 2013, there were 152 terror attacks in Europe. Only two of them were “religiously motivated,” while 84 were predicated upon ethno-nationalist or separatist beliefs.
Have you heard of these incidents? Probably not. But if Muslims had committed them do you think you our media would’ve covered it?"
timmy, you must realize that people don’t view terrorist attacks in Europe or the US in a vacuum. They see the horrific violence that is perpetrated mostly on Muslims, by other “Muslims” in the name of Islam, in predominantly Muslim countries, and they fear it is spilling over to their countries. As more Muslim refugees attempt to escape the misery that is in their country and move to Europe, people grow fearful that they will be subject to the same violence and harassment that they see happen elsewhere. I think their fear is valid.
Timmy, facts are useless with a fair number of the posters here. I’m sure you know the type.
(Thanks for pointing out that Breivik had a pro-Christian agenda. if I ever even knew that, given the pathetic state of mainstream media, I’d forgotten it.)
For sure, facts are definitely useless when you are dealing with people who have a set point of view, or an agenda.
@MomCat2, the Matthew Shepard incident was initially a drug robbery that led to murder if you follow the comments of the two defendants. Not sure how them being or not being Christians is an issue?
Dadoftwingirls, if you follow the logic that any bad that happens in the world is the fault of Christians, and/or Americans, it all makes sense.
The terror attacks in Europe that I recall were Lockerbie, the London subway bombing, the Madrid train station bombing, Charlie Hebdo, several attacks on Jewish schools in France, the killing of Theo Van Gogh, and the Norwegian summer camp massacre. So all but one were Al Qaeda or some other Islamist group or persons.
The attackers in Tunisia seemed to single out the British.
Then there are the nonbelievers who watch believers argue back and forth about which magic is peaceful and which magic book is the true word of the wizard. This is a battle that predates us by more than 900 years. I don’t think peace will ever be achieved until society ends these ancient beliefs.
“I don’t think peace will ever be achieved until society ends these ancient beliefs.”
Fair comment. However, I believe that it’s possible for peace to exist alongside religions, although it would be very rare if that happened. As a Christian, I am an open-minded individual who believes in peace and acceptance. The problem is that some people who claim they’re Christians, for example, are often guilty of not following some of the basic beliefs. Those people are the problem.
@timmy23 wrote
ISIS violence was mostly occurring in muslim countries until last year, 2014. How many european separatist groups burn their captives alive in a cage or drown them in a cage, and film it for propaganda?
@TatinG wrote
Were brits deliberately targeted? Or did that hotel just happen to be favored by europeans who are brits?