Pearl Harbor

<p>Why did the government force all Japanese people (Even 2nd Generation) in Internment Camps? Because of Pearl Harbor? So you just simply deport all Japanese people to camps, as they suffer, lose their occupation, and die from inadequate medical care? </p>

<p>"Some internees died from inadequate medical care’'</p>

<p>“The US justified their action by claiming that there was a danger of those of Japanese descent spying for the Japanese. However more than two thirds of those interned were American citizens and half of them were children. None had ever shown disloyalty to the nation. In some cases family members were separated and put in different camps. During the entire war only ten people were convicted of spying for Japan and these were all Caucasian.”

<p>Are you **** kidding me? How could the government condemn ALL JAPANESE PEOPLE, even japanese citizens for 3-4 years in internment camps, because of war. ***</p>

<p>Please correct me if I miscomprehended anything, I am just in denial.</p>

<p>Yes, and BIG BAD AMERICA takes credit for liberating the prisoners in Nazi concentration camps. The fact that we had camps isn’t what makes me upset, it’s the fact that America tries to avoid acknowledging it by reminding us about the Nazi holocaust over and over. Not that I think that’s of less importance, I just don’t like the attempts to cover up the hypocrisy.</p>

<p>The internment camps were also established to ensure safety for Japanese citizens, not because the government felt a Japanese coup was going to take over the country. Are you suggesting the conditions experienced in internment camps were similar/equal to the Nazi concentration camps? XD</p>

<p>The only REAL beef I take is the lack of compensation. The property, money, basically all belongings were sold or released to the public. Once the people were released, the government refused to accommodate. Homes, money, everything just gone.</p>

<p>This example of WWII hypocrisy is rather weak. If you are really interested in the subject, I’d be happy to find some resources.</p>

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They didn’t. They forced Japanese people (even citizens) on the west coast only into the camps because they were fearful of them assisting Japan in an invasion which was thought to be a real possibility at the time. It was limited to the west coast.</p>

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America doesn’t try to avoid acknowledging it. You know about it, I know about it, most people know about it. President Reagan signed legislation that officially apologized for the internment. Reparations were made shortly after the war (inadequate reparations) and reparations were made again in 1990.</p>

<p>If you really are interested in this subject, bone up on the real history and try to understand what it must have been like in those times,</p>

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<p>And ironically did not include Hawaii.</p>

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<p>I’ve seen articles about it in Parade magazine for crying out loud. When it’s in Parade, <em>everybody</em> knows about it. There is no secret here.</p>

<p>Now let’s talk about the pan-Asian holocaust that occurred before and during WWII. THAT’s a covered-up mess if I ever saw one. Try finding more than a couple paragraphs about it in your history textbook. Really.</p>

<p>Let me guess, you’ve just covered it in class? My D came home with the same angry attitude her senior year… </p>

<p>The beauty of hindsight is that it is always clearer decades later. At the time, the fear was real, very real that the western us was about to be invaded. Our fleet was destroyed and we were wide open. Japan had already begun an aggressive invasion of the eastern pacific rim and for a while seemed unstoppable. </p>

<p>Was it the wrong thing to do? today yes, back then?? can you really decide what the proper action should have been when you were not faced with the same situaion? The fact that you are being taught about it and that it wasn’t our best momment is a pretty strong statement itself… I mean when will Japan educate it’s students about the rape of Nanking? </p>

<p>My dad a construction worker, was taken on Wake Island, spent 4 years in a forced labor camp, watched lots of people beheaded, tortured and starved. At least he was lucky, he wasn’t kept on Wake, were the japanese army worked them to death and later as US forces closed in, executed all the prisoners…</p>

<p>There’s alot about WAR that is wrong, even when the “good” guys do them…</p>

<p>It’s good to be angry, but it is also good that you live in a place that tells you what we did wrong as well. History is for learning. Learning not to repeat mistakes. Internment combined with the loss of property was wrong, we did it, we learned from it and when you look around, it is why we haven’t interned our muslim popluation this time…</p>

<p>uscd<em>ucla</em>dad - I don’t think my experience was anecdotal, but I don’t think ‘most’ people know about it. Somehow I made it through high school and college without learning about it. It wasn’t until I was in my 30s that I learned about it. Now granted, I’m certainly no history buff (and I don’t read Parade), but I was truly shocked, too, when I learned about it and initially felt as if it were some sort of conspiracy to not ‘dwell’ on our past mistakes. But over time, I realized there are many, many instances in many countries of events that they’re not proud of, who choose to give a part of history a few paragraphs in a history book. And you’re right, some countries won’t even acknowledge their part in atrocities at all. I wish I had learned about it in school; I felt horribly embarassed when, as a young adult, I stood there with my mouth wide open when an Asian professor told me about it.</p>

<p>For some time, I’ve been meaning to ask both my kids if they ever learned about it in their history classes, which they only have had in high school, since they were AP, and tested out of it for college. I hope times have changed and more time is spent on educating our kids about it. Like the previous poster said, we learned from it and haven’t repeated our mistakes iwth the Muslim population (directly, although I think indirectly we do discriminate against them in harmful ways).</p>

<p>teriwtt,</p>

<p>Where did you do secondary school? Chicago? In California, Manzanar and the rest are a pretty big deal, and I learned about the internment in middle school AND high school.</p>

<p>Opie,</p>

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<p>They do they do they do they do. Only a small fraction of the textbooks (.01%) don’t cover it. It’s called 南京の虐殺 (Massacre of Nanking) or something like that. I read part of the textbook they used for the social studies classes at a number of schools, and they all included it. </p>

<p>Now the real question is how much do they drill it in? Not enough, I suspect.</p>

<p>I attended both parochial, and an all-girls private school in Houston, and graduated from the University of Texas-Austin.</p>

<p>I’m almost positive that it’s required learning at most public schools, particularly in California. Perhaps this is a failure of the private schooling system. ;)</p>

<p>Seriously though, I think most people know about it. I guarantee that if I talk to anyone here with half a brain, they’ll at least have some sort of inkling of what went on.</p>

<p>I think we only need to go back a very few years – September 2001 – and remember how we felt about Muslims in the wake of 9/11.</p>

<p>cnp55,</p>

<p>I think that, outside of a very extreme few, there weren’t people calling for internment, however.</p>

<p>All I’m saying is look at the way we felt at that time about people who were ethnically related to the terrorists … and I think there are parallels.</p>

<p>teriwtt;</p>

<p>Well, maybe not as many people knew about it as I thought. I am a bit of a history buff so maybe I just paid more attention to it or picked it somewhere. Also, in California, anyone from Southern Californoa heading to Mammoth or Lake Tahoe to go skiing passes right by the Manzanar camp where there’s a monument to it and it’s overseen by the National Park Service. Check out the following - it’s clear the US government isn’t exactly hiding it -</p>

<p>[Manzanar</a> National Historic Site (U.S. National Park Service)](<a href=“http://www.nps.gov/manz/]Manzanar”>Manzanar National Historic Site (U.S. National Park Service))</p>

<p>I don’t really see any parallels with Musilms with the events of 911. We live in different times with a different understanding of the world.</p>

<p>I do believe some people today indirectly,directly discriminate muslims today. My muslim friend was asked to step out of the security line at the airport, thus humiliating him. He was interrogated for no reason…</p>

<p>Since most Americans don’t even know the years of the Civil War within ten years, it’s not surprising that they don’t know of the Japanese internment in WWII. Most people think cavemen rode dinosaurs, too.</p>

<p>The Japanese-American internments are a low point in the history of US civil rights, but there is no way that Manzanar or Heart Mountain should be compared to Bergen-Belsen, Auschwitz, Treblinka, or Sobibor.</p>

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No doubt this happens but it is in no way similar to rounding them up and placing them in internment camps.</p>

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<p>While we’re at it; I’m still mad about the British inspired/aggravated Irish Potato Famine. YEAH!! So let’s talk about that now!</p>

<p>(/another trite sarcasm)</p>

<p>uscd<em>ucla</em>dad - oh, I truly believe most everyone in California knows about it, and probably most on the West Coast in general. But as washdad suggested, there are so many more larger historical events that people (including myself) can’t recall even the most mundane information about, that I don’t think I’m alone in this oversight either.</p>