Penn State Sandusky scandal

<p>^ Tongue firmly in cheek. Yes, now we know.</p>

<p>Is Nike insane? It almost sounded like a tasteless joke. : The Joe Paterno Child Development Center? I am hoping there will be sufficient outrage to change their minds.</p>

<p>After reading all the facts around the case I am wondering if the only solution would be for Penn State to withdraw from Division I football.</p>

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[Ron</a> Judd | Nike never seems to mind a tarnished name | Seattle Times Newspaper](<a href=“http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/ronjudd/2016747878_judd13.html]Ron”>http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/ronjudd/2016747878_judd13.html)</p>

<p>You can’t make this stuff up.</p>

<p>One of the comments on the Nike article said “The Joe Paterno Child Development Center” sounds like the title of an SNL skit. Good line.</p>

<p>Great perspective here from someone who experienced a scandal from the inside of a Div 1 football school. </p>

<p>[Outside</a> the Arena: College sports bubble can warp values | Philadelphia Inquirer | 11/10/2011](<a href=“http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/colleges/20111110_Being_inside_collegiate-sports_bubble_can_warp_values.html]Outside”>Outside the Arena: College sports bubble can warp values)</p>

<p>Sadly, like the CU scandal (milder in comparison) this Penn State story will eventually leave the front pages and new bodies will be put in place to run things, and people will forget. But is the horror of this cover up strong enough to impact the entire collegiate sports culture going forward from here? </p>

<p>Or is Penn State (and the rest of the schools in the collegiate sports industrial complex) too big to fail?</p>

<p>Interestingly, most of the photos I’ve seen on the Second Mile website are of girls. Is that new, I wonder?</p>

<p>The Nike thing is indeed mind-boggling.</p>

<p>^ I noticed that this weekend. Don’t know if new or not. There have been other obvious changes to the site.</p>

<p>Well, I said it earlier, but I will say it again. yes, there are problems in NCAA sports and discipline for criminal actions, but I believe this is an outgrowth of a larger problem in colleges policing themselves and getting to set disciplinary punishments themselves.</p>

<p>They investigate what they choose. They hold hearings in which students are denied legal counsel and aren’t even allowed to have an advocate speak for them. There is no real recourse.</p>

<p>it’s problematic from the perspective of investigating and prosecuting criminals when the people in charge of the bodies doing this have a vested interest in seeming as if they are safer than they really are. It creates a top-down culture which breeds a CYA and cover-up mentality. </p>

<p>JMO</p>

<p>yalemom15 - I hope that it changes the collegiate sports industrial complex. I mentioned if a previous post that I suspect Penn State is not the only school to see their soul for the revenue Div 1 sports might bring. UNC, Miami, Auburn…and many others have been or are under investigation for other less henious offenses.</p>

<p>Realistically, which donor is going to keep sending money onto Second Mile way. The charity main fundraiser is Sandusky, and on top of that civil the lawsuits are definitely coming. The charity has got to be on very thin ice right now.</p>

<p>Raykovitz was told about the 2002 incident, moreover, the Second Mile lawyer knew and had a copy of the 1998 investigation. They are all jumping ships, I wonder whether the pending lawsuits have something to do with it?</p>

<p>[A</a> Penn State Attorney Who Reviewed The 1998 Police Report Against Jerry Sandusky Also Represented The Second Mile](<a href=“A Penn State Attorney Who Reviewed The 1998 Police Report Against Jerry Sandusky Also Represented The Second Mile”>A Penn State Attorney Who Reviewed The 1998 Police Report Against Jerry Sandusky Also Represented The Second Mile)</p>

<p>Then there is the judge that didn’t recuse herself for the bail hearing, it seems like more and more web off lies, cover-ups, and questionable entanglements.</p>

<p>It is a shame that the kids who were legitimately served by Second Mile will be impacted.</p>

<p>Gotta give these PSU and Second Mile guys a lot of credit,the Mafia pales in comparison in their vows of omerta</p>

<p>Perhaps Sandusky and friends can start a new chant…We are–in State Penn</p>

<p>Paterno’s name was just removed from BIg Ten football trophy.</p>

<p>[Big</a> Ten removes Joe Paterno’s name from championship trophy - ESPN](<a href=“http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7233492/big-ten-removes-joe-paterno-name-championship-trophy]Big”>Big Ten removes Joe Paterno's name from championship trophy - ESPN)</p>

<p>I am withdrawing my description of Ohiomom3000’s post of last night as “vile”. I regret using that word, and i apologize for it.</p>

<p>I believe that the sports industrial complex will change when the military industrial complex does: when there is no money to be made in it. Which will most likely be never.</p>

<p>Sadly, the university administrators who have the intestinal fortitude to throw football and other big money sports off their campuses are few and far between. I would say that there has in fact only been one–Hutchins at the University of Chicago–but there may be others of whom I have not heard. It is not that I am opposed to collegiate sports, per se, but I am strongly opposed to collegiate sports which are in effect the minor league for the pros in which the ostensible scholar athletes are really professionals. Baseball and hockey run their own minor leagues: why not football and basketball?</p>

<p>mcqueary has hired a Harrisburg attorney who specializes in emplyment issues</p>

<p>Barrons: That and the fact that both PA Senators withdrew their support for Paterno to be awarded the Medal of Freedom appear to be just the beginning. Some column gave a quote from Shakespeare that summed up what will happen: “The evil men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones.” That’s the way it will be now, he will be always known as the coach mired in the coverup of a sex abuse scandal</p>

<p>Why did it take 10 days for Schultz and Curley to meet with McQ after they met with Paterno?</p>

<p>In the GJ report is says Schultz as PSU’s VP was over the campus police depart. Was he also over legal? Why didn’t he seek their advice?</p>

<p>The GJ report says 2 janitors saw Sandusky w/ a young boy. One saw him in the shower and one saw him in the hall holding the child’s hand. They reported this to their supervisor – did he report it to anyone?</p>

<p>Although the DA failed to charge Sandusky after the 1998 incident –PSU knew of the incident. Was PSU really unable to sever its ties w/ Sandusky?</p>

<p>My question for the lawyers again, if the Penn State lawyers were consulted and knew of all these incidents, are they libel to any wrong doings?</p>