<p>Am I the only one who is wondering how, exactly, McQueary claims to have made sure that the rape stopped when he left the locker room? If he didn’t physically intervene…well then what did he do to guarantee it stopped? As one of the other posters mentioned earlier, if Sandusky saw McQueary, of course it stopped. And if he met with or informed campus police, when did he do that? Immediately? Because that, to me would be the kind of thing that I would expect police to respond to immediately.</p>
<p>I hope that PSU can find a way to clean house without throwing out the baby with the bath water. It is not just about URM football athletes. But also about band members, drumline, cheerleaders and all of the jobs that having an active football program produces. All people that would be significantly and negatively affected by the end of a football program at PSU. And I think ending the PSU football program is actually the easy way out. Instead of taking responsibilty and altering their practices, PSU would be eliminating the problem to save them much needed work.</p>
<p><strong>And I think ending the PSU football program is actually the easy way out.</strong></p>
<p>If that were the case, it’d be done already. </p>
<p>I sympathize with the band members, cheerleaders, et al, but losing those activities is not going to affect anyone’s life. The football players, maybe, because football is such big bucks in the country, but if they’re any good, they’ll find their place.</p>
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I wonder how many people out there who have excoriated Paterno would have done all the things they are so certain he should have done. No way will we ever know, but I wonder.
Oh, I’m pretty sure that if I were told that a child had been raped in my workplace, I’d make sure the matter came to the attention of law enforcement, even if I had to make that call myself. And by law enforcement, I mean an agency that would do something about it, as opposed to the Penn State police. Call me crazy, but I happen to believe that predators of children need to be behind bars. </p>
<p>McQuery now says he discussed this with the police and we know Paterno also knows he discussed this with the Schultz so Paterno did what you say you would do on the 2002 reported incident. Do you still think he should be excoriated for his actions in that event? Do you understand that the university police have the authority to investigate crimes. You seem to think they do not count.</p>
<p>Let’s assume, for the sake of argument, that McQueary called the campus police immediately and reported that he had witnessed the rape of a ten year old boy on the PSU campus. What did he do after that? Go home? Go to bed? Did the police show up? If they did, did he wait for them and file a report? </p>
<p>Did anyone stop SAndusky from driving off with that boy?</p>
<p>And the next day he went to Paterno and reported what he saw and we will assume, again, for the sake of argument, that Paterno informed the school police, as well. Then what? </p>
<p>They participate in Sandusky’s charity fundraisers, they socialize with him? They shake his hand on the field? </p>
<p>Huh?</p>
<p>Besides being an honorary board member of the charity along with Arnold Palmer and many others what exactly were Paterno’s and Sandusky’s relationship like since 2002? Do we really know</p>
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<p>When did he discuss it with police? Moments after dialing 911 on site so that the boy could get medical care, a counseling referral, and evidence obtained and preserved with a rape kit?</p>
<p>Who knows when he discussed it with the police but he now says he did. Paterno was excoriated because it never was reported to the police but now that seems to be false. At least according to a credible witness.</p>
<p>tom, please reread the last few sentences of your Lasma quote. At this point, I can’t consider what Paterno did to be equivalent to the spirit or the letters of what Lasma stated. More and more there seems to be a huge cover-up. If McQ went to the police, there must be a police report, there is no way around that. Was it the campus police that McQ went to? If so, are they part of the cover-up? I think more things are going to come out. But if Paterno has any idea about Sandusky and stood by all these years, he failed miserably. Your conclusion that Paterno did what Lasma stated does not work for me.</p>
<p>Paterno did not go to the police but he was aware that Schultz meet with McQuery and now McQuery also says he went to the police. Paterno did not witness the event he knows the police are involved what more was he to do in regard to the reporting of the 2002 incident?</p>
<p>At this point, it is unclear whether the police was contacted, so let’s be cognizant of this very shaky fact (no police report). However, even if the police was contacted and informed, would you agree that there was a cover-up or some sort of sweeping it under the rug going on here? I submit to you that this would only work if everyone who knows about this keep on being quiet and looked away. It is not very difficult at all to grasp. If one person blab anytime after instead of waiting years until a victim along the lines of many came out and reported, we don’t have to talk about how bad this whole episode is today.</p>
<p>Edit: I should not use the word blab here, it should be more like had the decency to come out and not looked away all these years.</p>
<p>I would not agree to anything yet. It is to early in the entire situation to know what went wrong. We can agree that things were not handled properly for a long time, since at least 1998. What we do not know is why, evil, incompetence, unwilling to believe that Sandusky was a pedophile and so many other things. I believe that in hindsight every person involved is going to look at what they did and realize the should have done at least one thing differently.
That does not mean that everyone of them should have their lives tarnished especially if their mistake was not one made with evil or malfeasance.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/12/sports/ncaafootball/penn-state-has-exemption-from-disclosure-law.html[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/12/sports/ncaafootball/penn-state-has-exemption-from-disclosure-law.html</a></p>
<p>…the public’s access to e-mails, phone records and other potentially critical evidence is restricted because Penn State has a special exemption from having to disclose a host of information that state agencies and many other state universities are forced to divulge under Pennsylvania’s Right to Know Law.</p>
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<p>The story has become so convoluted, so I might not be remembering correctly, but I thought from the beginning that it was stated that at some point campus police were informed about the incident, but that by the time they got wind of it, “rape” had morphed into “horseplay.”</p>
<p>The new info about McQueary comes from some email allegedly sent to a friend wherein McQueary states he “stopped it” and did “discuss it with police.” It did not say he called police, only that he did have a conversation with them about it. </p>
<p>McQueary’s actual role in this whole thing is still unclear. It should probably become crystal clear when he is called as a witness in Sandusky’s trial, should it ever come to that.</p>
<p>NRB- once McQuery was interviewed by the police does it really matter what Paterno thought McQuery told him. McQuery says he spoke to the police. Is McQuery credible or not?</p>
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<p>What does an honorary board member do anyway? Not much to nothing. Did Paterno even remeber he was an honorary member of the board? Many new non-profit organizations have trouble assembling a board. Youth organizations start out with parents some emplyed, some not. I wouldn’t be surprised someone like Paterno is a member of many boards and it is entirely possible he doesn’t know all the organizations that he is a member of not to mention an honorary member.</p>
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<p>Tom, I have never once made any comment on Paterno’s role in this incident.</p>
<p>Thank you tom, I agree with your notion that it is too early to tell.</p>
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<p>I’m going with Not Credible. It matters when and where the police were brought into it because, well, it was a crime in progress with a real flesh and blood victim. Having a conversation with police is not the same as calling the police at the scene of the crime. I guess it’s okay to wait to report something ike missing jewelry or something but there was a child being raped here.</p>
<p>There is also a difference in reporting the crime to campus police, and talking to the person in charge of the budget for campus police.</p>