<p>Yes, but if it had been dealt with properly in 2002, none of them would be in this predicament right now, excluding S.</p>
<p>Or in 1998, or in…?</p>
<p>I don’t know why these connections surprise me anymore, but they do. Apparently Joe Amendola was involved with Sandusky’s Second Mile charity too. Schultz is in the photo (event) too. It’s so interesting how nearly everyone involved in this case seems to have some sort of connection with each other or Penn State. </p>
<p>[Mary</a> Amendola Photo From Second Mile Event | SportsGrid](<a href=“http://www.sportsgrid.com/ncaa-football/mary-amendola-photo/]Mary”>http://www.sportsgrid.com/ncaa-football/mary-amendola-photo/)</p>
<p>pretty clear to me that JoePa deserves to spend whatever time he has left in jail.</p>
<p>(Sandusky too, obviously. Actually I think he should get the chair, but…)</p>
<p>^^ Everyone knew everyone. It was a tight little circle. You don’t rat out your buddy; you keep it inside the family. Like the mafia.</p>
<p>bclintonk, excellent post #3598.</p>
<p>Agree. Excellent summary, Bclintonk.</p>
<p>Just to reiterate what was said, it does NOT matter if it was clear that intercourse was going on. If McQueary characterized the act as a “severe sexual” act or even as a sexual act, it should have been a police matter. Whether it was actual intercourse or not is the standard by which a crime is determined.</p>
<p>McQuery testified he thought it had become a police matter</p>
<p>In the Centre Region, the Second Mile events (I’m guessing the referenced link is to the golf tournament? I didn’t open it) and other support systems were considered part of the life for anyone with money or a public profile. So it would be more surprising to find lawyers, judges, reporters, athletes,businessmen etc. who hadn’t participated in some way, or had some connection.</p>
<p>tom, McQueary also testified – for the second time – that he told his boss. In case there was any question at the grand jury, he made it explicit this time: JoePa KNEW that he, McQueary, was reporting a sexual incident between Sandusky and a child. </p>
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<p>I never doubted that McQuery reported something to Paterno that needed to be reported to the police. I thought McQuery , his father and Paterno all could have done it themselves instead they went to Curley ultimately who went to Schultz. According to McQuery Schultz is the police. Paterno may have felt the same way. That is what remains to be seen why did they go to Schultz and what was their impression of his role and what did they think he did with the information.</p>
<p>tom, I agree that McQueary thought that PSU police was the only law enforcement agency that needed to be concerned with this matter. It apparently didn’t bother him that a man he knew to be a predator continued to walk around free for years after, and it didn’t occur to him that maybe he should go outside the Penn State family in an effort to get a dangerous criminal behind bars. But that’s a moral failing, not a legal one.</p>
<p>All parties agree that PSU police were informed. Penn State is fighting the release of the campus police report and investigation. I wonder why?</p>
<p>The really sad thing here is that it’s obvious officials at PSU were turning a blind eye to what was going on, in order to save the reputation of PSU. They may very well have thought it was not worth disgracing said reputation all because of the acts of one man; who knows how they justified it. </p>
<p>It’s also a miraculous turn of events that JoePa is now too sick to testify. He may be the only one to corroborate McQ’s testimony regarding what Curley and Scultz were told.</p>
<p>LasMa- I see the Penn State police the same way I see any other local police department. I am not sure you do. That does not mean they did not screw up, participate in a cover up or act in a corrupt manner but the episode occurred on Penn State’s campus and it becomes the responsibility of Penn St police.
Should there have been follow up -yes and maybe there was. We have no idea what Schultz told anyone about any investigation. Remember he testified at the GJ that he believed Child Protective Services was notified. Who else may he have told that?
We also need to remember that the 1998 event was reported and investigated and never resulted in an indictment. Would it have been possible that some were told the 2002 incident results were the same?
I am not going to say that any of the contentions people have made on here are wrong yet- from mini’s posts that there was a pedophile ring attacking minority children to people claiming there was a grand cover up to protect Penn St football. I will say that none of those have been proven and it still is possible that some people made errors that were made because human beings make mistakes and not some grand conspiracy of evil.</p>
<p>Las Mas. I believe your quote was about what McQueary told Shultz and Curley…not Paterno. Correct me if I am wrong.</p>
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“I described it was extremely sexual and that some kind of intercourse was going on,” the assistant coach, Mike McQueary, testified of the suspected assault by Sandusky, a longtime top assistant to Paterno. “There’s no question in my mind that I conveyed to them that I saw Jerry in the showers, and that it was severe sexual acts, and that it was wrong and over the line.</p>
<p>I do not believe Paterno was ever in the same room at the same time as Curley, Schultz and McQueary.</p>
<p>I do not see any miracle in JoPa being too sick to testify. If that indeed is the the case.</p>
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<p>[Former</a> Penn State officials Gary Schultz, Tim Curley can face trial for perjury - ESPN](<a href=“http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7359173/former-penn-state-officials-gary-schultz-tim-curley-face-trial-perjury]Former”>Former Penn State officials Gary Schultz, Tim Curley can face trial for perjury - ESPN)</p>
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<p>Are you serious?</p>
<p>If he wasn’t, it was with the intention of staying out of it, all the better to turn a blind eye.</p>
<p>Just seems to me he would have critical testimony to add to these perjury charges. He knows what was said.</p>
<p>going- they did not need Paterno to testify at the preliminary hearing. The judge has stated the case can go to trial.</p>
<p>[Former</a> Penn State officials Gary Schultz, Tim Curley can face trial for perjury - ESPN](<a href=“http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7359173/former-penn-state-officials-gary-schultz-tim-curley-face-trial-perjury]Former”>Former Penn State officials Gary Schultz, Tim Curley can face trial for perjury - ESPN)</p>
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<p>goingmy way: They didnt need Paterno at this time. They had enough to take it to trial without him. Besides his cancer treatment I believe he fell and broke or injured his hip again.</p>
<p>crosspost with tom</p>
<p>OK, I concede they didn’t need him.</p>
<p>Given his age, his lung cancer, and a recent fall (I read he had fractured his pelvis?), I will be very surprised if Joe Paterno lives to testify; in the event he is still alive when all these cases actually go to trial, I think odds are low that he will be intellectually capable of providing any clear and reliable testimony regarding what he knew and when he knew it.</p>
<p>Yeah, I take back my miraculous comment. He’s almost 85, and the weight of what’s going on must be very heavy on him.</p>