<p>Regarding the 1998 incident, the first time that police had a chance to stop Sandusky, and didn’t:</p>
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<p>[Sandusky</a>, police chief were once neighbors - KansasCity.com](<a href=“http://www.kansascity.com/2011/12/11/3313881/ex-coach-sandusky-penn-state-police.html]Sandusky”>http://www.kansascity.com/2011/12/11/3313881/ex-coach-sandusky-penn-state-police.html)</p>
<p>This reminds me of the movie “Blue Velvet” - about the nefarious and warped characters inhabiting a seemingly blissful small town.</p>
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There was no “personal” relationship. They were not friends, did not socialize - at least after about 1998. They did have at least a ‘professional’ falling out which led to Sandusky retiring and basically being blackballed from any other coaching job.<br>
Folks want to believe they were bff’s because they worked together for so many years in order to justify their belief that Joe Paterno engineered a cover up to protect Sandusky.</p>
<p>Shultz - as VP he was in effect the head of the Penn State police department. He was the police. An investigation would have occurred under his order which he never gave.<br>
He did know that Sandusky had been investigated prior with more evidence and the DA would not move the case forward.<br>
Keep in mind - they had a complaint but no victim - he disappeared when McQ walked away. </p>
<p>What I don’t understand is why the folks at Second Mile are not being prosecuted. They failed to take proper precautions in protecting the children under their charge. They knew at least about ‘suspicions’ and failed to take action.
Child Protective Services had reports about Sandusky and failed to take action. Sandusky’s youngest child was adopted. Prior to the adoption the birth mother complained about Sandusky - her complaints were ignored.</p>
<p>The moral, ethical and legal failings in this case fall far outside Penn State. They were all over Central PA and no one talked to each other or took the extra step.</p>
<p>Sandusky is not the first pervert to evade detection over a period of time. PSU, CPS, the various police departments and district attorney’s are not the first organizations to allow a creep to slip through - sadly they won’t be the last.</p>
<p>I don’t think anyone was covering up to protect Sandusky. I believe that Sandusky’s “indiscretions” were swept under the rug to protect Penn State, in particular its “exemplary” football program.</p>
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<p>Whether or not they were bff’s has nothing to do with Paterno covering up. And I haven’t heard anyone say Paterno engineered a coverup. I’ve heard people say he ignored what was happening.</p>
<p>“There was no “personal” relationship. They were not friends, did not socialize - at least after about 1998.”</p>
<p>And before 1998? For the the 25 years before during which they knew each other, and Jerry was “friendly” with the younger set?</p>
<p>I have no idea what JoePa knew or didn’t know, what he covered up, and what he didn’t, what he engineered and what he didn’t. We may know someday, but I doubt it. I think it just as likely that JoePa has been suffering from incipient dementia for the past decade.</p>
<p>But JoePa wasn’t the only one who turned a blind eye. They all acted in the best interest of Penn State football, to the detriment of the victims.</p>
<p>No, but he was by far the most powerful man at Penn State. Had he thought it important for the police to know, the police would have known. Had he thought it important for Jerry to be off campus, Jerry would have been off campus. Had he wanted Second Mile to separate itself from Jerry, Second Mile would have done so. At any time, day or night, he could have picked up the phone and called the university president, and gotten an answer.</p>
<p>There are many possible reasons he may or may not have thought it important.</p>
<p>Is there anyone here who actually believes that JoePa didn’t know of the 1998 allegations? (It is possible that his memory was so shot by 2002 that he didn’t remember…)</p>
<p>No mention of memory/dementia with Paterno that I’ve read. where is that perspective from?</p>
<p>The grand jury report stated that Shultz knew about the early investigation. It did not include whether or not they asked the other men if they knew, I hope it is answered in the trial</p>
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^^ yes, I agree, but I dont think the same can be said for Curley and Schultz. Joe Pa has Curley over to his house the Sunday after McQ tells Paterno what he saw happening in the shower - but Curley waits 10 days to talk w/ McQ. Why??? When he and Schultz meet w/ McQ they both say he was still very upset. Even if you believe Curley and Schultz that McQ never said intercourse why didnt they elicit more info? And since Schultz says he knew about the 1998 shower incident why didnt he report this new shower incident?? * coverup maybe???*</p>
<p>“No mention of memory/dementia with Paterno that I’ve read. where is that perspective from?”</p>
<p>I’m trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. (Otherwise, he watched Jerry parade in the kids for 20 years before 1998, knew of the allegations in 1998 and acted upon them, had McQueary come to him in 2002, had the parade continue for the next nine years, and still didn’t act? I can come up with some far more sinister explanations, but I won’t go there.)</p>
<p>Paterno denies knowing about the 1998 incident. I read the other day that Schultz claims that Paterno did know. That is the first time and so far only person that has come out and said Paterno knew about the 1998 charge. Curley claims not to have known.</p>
<p>Sandusky has also said Paterno never discussed any incident with him.</p>
<p>So the most powerful, all-knowing man at Penn State knew absolutely nothing about the activities of his own coach who had worked for him for 30 years. It’s a good fish story.</p>
<p>But I think it is quite possible that in 2011 (or 2008) that JoePa “knew nothing” about the 1998 incident. Heck, for all I know, he didn’t even know who Sandusky was without prompting.</p>
<p>we’re not going to trust what Sandusky said now are we??</p>
<p>It seems to me that believing Paterno did not know his assistant coach of 30 years was being investigated for child abuse, in Penn State showers, is just more of the same…turning a blind eye, convincing oneself that maybe it didn’t happen, so one doesn’t have to deal with it.</p>
<p>Right. It is inconceivable that he didn’t know. It will all come out and, hopefully, those responsible will be held accountable.</p>
<p>“Paterno denies knowing about the 1998 incident.”</p>
<p>Could you point me to any statement or anything that substantiates this claim? I don’t think Paterno ever said such thing.</p>
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<p><a href=“http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/joe-paterno-footsteps-cardinal-bernard-law-penn-state-sex-abuse-scandal-article-1.993277?pgno=1[/url]”>http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/joe-paterno-footsteps-cardinal-bernard-law-penn-state-sex-abuse-scandal-article-1.993277?pgno=1</a></p>
<p>McQueary is perhaps the only one of them now standing up and telling the truth. What a despicable cast of characters.</p>
<p>Someone upthread asked why no one at Second Mile is being prosecuted. Maybe it’s because they cooperated with the investigation, and didn’t end up with perjury charges.</p>
<p>Joe Paterno and Jerry Sandusky were not ever <em>friends</em>. Not now, not 20 years ago.<br>
Joe Paterno testified to the GJ that he had no recollection of rumors concerning Sandusky being discussed in his presence. There was and is no reason for Joe Paterno to ever <em>cover up</em> for Sandusky.<br>
Knowing someone personally who has covered PSU football for 25 years, they did not like each other very much.</p>
<p>Shultz OTOH admitted that he was aware of the 1998 incident and rumors. Yet, when faced again in 2002 with allegations, he did nothing. Perhaps because charges were not brought forth the first time? I dunno.</p>
<p>For those of you who think that Paterno “had to have known” — there are plenty of women out there who were married to perverts for years and had no knowledge. Clearly, Sandusky led a double life. He was a husband, father, church goer, volunteer etc… all qualities of an ‘exemplary’ citizen. It’s unsettling and shocking for us to think that he could have been our friend, neighbor or community leader, so we don’t. We just say that these people <em>should have known</em>. Makes it easier for us to sleep at night.</p>
<p>Not sure if anyone posted this or not…
Back in March/April the Harrisburg paper reported that Sandusky was being investigated.
Read this article carefully… it was written March 31, 2011
[Jerry</a> Sandusky, former Penn State football staffer, subject of grand jury investigation | PennLive.com](<a href=“http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/03/jerry_sandusky_former_penn_sta.html]Jerry”>Jerry Sandusky, former Penn State football staffer, subject of grand jury investigation - pennlive.com)</p>
<p>The national news media ignored it. Even though it was widely known that Paterno was testifying and crimes had probably been committed in the locker room. Interesting that only when the GJ recommended charges against Curley and Shultz did the media effort (mostly ESPN) to fire Paterno begin. Why no outcry that he be fired last spring?<br>
BTW - IMO - Paterno had to go. But it burns me that Boeheim is still coaching at Syracuse and Curley is still employed by PSU.</p>