Penn State Sandusky scandal

<p>Freeh has email records and hand written notes by the people involved. That is not an opinion. If that is not the truth then I don’t think Jay is going anywhere from here.</p>

<p>^I agree, and it is that same arrogance that is the sick culture that existed at PSU that permitted the mentality of “we can do no wrong, we will get away with our deception, and lies, because we are Penn State”. Time to humble themselves. It is also this arrogance that can potentially fuel a similar reaction to what occurred when Paterno was fired. Jay Paterno should be ashamed of himself for potentially inciting others to continue to deny the truth.</p>

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<p>[If</a> Penn State is serious, it would shut down football for a year](<a href=“http://www.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/brennan/story/2012-07-12/paterno-penn-state-shut-down-football/56166544/1]If”>http://www.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/brennan/story/2012-07-12/paterno-penn-state-shut-down-football/56166544/1)</p>

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<p>So you are questioning the intentions of the students who choose to take part in this?</p>

<p>Is this Blue Out wearing blue to a PSU football game?</p>

<p>I don’t think anyone’s intentions are bad, just misguided. I do believe the main focus is feeling good about being in the PSU family.</p>

<p>Thank you God!</p>

<p>Many of you have called for payback or support. Some of you have dismissed the shows of support that have already been happening for the past 9 months as self-serving. Two unpopular opinions come to mind:</p>

<p>Cutting off football for a year. Really? I honestly think this is spurious. That’s the worst thing you can do to PSU? Not have football for 12 months? I think that is reducing a mountain to less than a molehill. This is the utter moral failure of 5 men, and the betrayal of many things. This is so much worse than just a football program suspension. That’s just too easy. Only in America could we say that stopping sports for a year is penance. </p>

<p>Sincerity or depth of community apology: First, what community is apologizing, and to whom? Based on what? Does every person with a PSU degree need to go apologize…to who?..for believing in something that leaders torpedo’d in the worst possible way? </p>

<p>The statue will undoubtedly be removed, in time. As I keep saying, Happy Valley has 12 months of the year, full of a great many things. What I know about Cincinnati, or San Francisco, or wherever, probably isn’t a complete picture of those places, and “they just care about football/it’s all about Joe” isn’t a complete picture of PSU either. </p>

<p>Oh, and Joe’s grandchildren are mostly elementary age (at least the ones who live here) and would have been babies back in the day.</p>

<p>I didn’t read the entire report but I’m puzzled why Spanier, Schultz, Curley and Paterno failed to display any anger or disgust towards Sandusky. It’s obvious they didn’t care one wit about Sandusky’s victims but they aren’t even the least bit upset or appalled by Sandusky.</p>

<p>[TVs</a> at PSU student center suddenly switched to public access](<a href=“http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20120712_TVs_at_PSU_student_center_suddenly_switch_to_public_access.html]TVs”>TVs at PSU student center suddenly switched to public access)</p>

<p>The handful of students and alumni that gathered in Penn State’s student center this morning to watch the release of the Freeh report live were stunned when the channel suddenly switched.</p>

<p>While most of campus was still sleepy, the small group was viewing CNN on a large screen, or one of several smaller screens nearby, in anticipation of the 9 a.m. release of the report on the sex abuse scandal that has gripped the school.</p>

<p>Most were hoping that the report, part of a seven-month probe by former FBI Director Louis Freeh, would exonerate legendary football coach Joe Paterno.</p>

<p>But, just as an anchor was ready to speak about the report, the television screens suddenly went blank. They then turned to a public access channel featuring a reporter from The Morning Call newspaper in Allentown about the state budget.</p>

<p>Several students went to speak with a student working at the main desk at the student center. But the student said a university employee was in charge of what is broadcast. That person, the student said, was in a meeting and could not be reached."</p>

<p>There seems to be a male mentality that if it a boy hey it can’t be that bad. I’ve seen responses like that on other sites.</p>

<p>^^Yes – my son was there and he said there was an audible angry buzz. Students with tablets switched to a streaming source and people gathered in bunches. I want to be charitable and say the U is worried about things getting out of hand, but honestly. It’s 88 degrees and town is full of ArtsFest. I think/hope the only potential problem area is the statue, but it’s a hike. In broad daylight. Goodness, could the admins. look more completely like morons?</p>

<p>rosieleen-- “outs” are games where the crowd is encouraged to wear a certain color. It’s been white, once a season, to show support for the team. After VA tech, everyone wore their colors to show sympathy…I think the idea originated at Ohio State? The women’s bball team has a Pink Zone game where everyone wears pink to support cancer research. So, a “blue out” would be a departure from tradition to show support for abuse victims.</p>

<p>PSU did the opposite of what they should have in switching the TV station. They should have had an organized event for students to watch with support from the College Counseling Staff and other leaders to respond to students’ reactions and help them with their reactions. Instead they permitted students to find the report results on their own with no leadership or support from them.</p>

<p>I feel for these students who are likely confused and looking for guidance in how to respond. And the students who previously protested and might truly get angry upon hearing the report would need even more guidance about how to manage their anger, or sense of betrayal.</p>

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<p>I have no doubt that many are participating for the noblest of reasons, but the Blue Out is also about the brand. Just look at the last line of the call for the Blue Out from the link in 5446: </p>

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<p>They also demonstrated once again – as if more proof were needed – that they still don’t get it. Censoring the report is just another instance of protecting the brand. Do they really not understand yet that protecting the brand is what got them into this mess? It’s hard to believe that these people could be this dense.</p>

<p>And the trustees response was soo clueless…its like theynsre pretending this is the first they heard of the issue</p>

<p>and for this PR and legal consultation they’re paying millions???</p>

<p>wow, so much for transparency and honesty going forward.</p>

<p>read on another site that while PSU offered to meet with the victims that it hasn’t happened. don’t know if that’s accurate, or if it was PSU not fulfilling that, as I wouldn’t imagine victims would do so anyway. Wondering if anyone knows more about this?</p>

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<p>I just heard an interview with an alumnus who does not need to apologize. He and his company have given a substantial amount of money to Penn State. The man is now grappling with the idea that the money he donated went into building the shower room where the assault took place. He gets it. I am not sugesting that there needs to be a massive demonstration of self flagellation, but many of us need to acknowledge that we helped put Joe Paterno on a pedestal, and that is one of the reasons why we are here today. Although I have no ties to Penn State, I always wanted Joe Paterno to stay ahead of Bobby Bowden in terms of career wins because I felt that Penn State’s program was honorable. I apologize for my part in putting Joe Paterno on a pedestal.</p>

<p>Yes, LasMa, exactly. EXACTLY.</p>

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<p>Right, they are showing the world…

  • that Penn State students care,
  • that they were horrified and embarrassed by the actions of their administrators and people they trusted,
  • that they are taking it in their own hands to raise awareness and money for victims of child abuse,
  • that they aren’t hiding their heads in the sand pretending this tragedy didn’t happen,
  • that they want to move forward and make the Penn State community stronger, better, and free of injustice</p>

<p>coarse - how is the “Blue Out” about the brand?</p>
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<p>So, what does everyone think is going to happen? Will the statue get torn down? Will there be sanctions on their football program or maybe their entire sports program? Just wondering how far this will go…or will it go away quietly?</p>